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On March 13 2010 10:36 NoNameLoser wrote:
And its not so useful as you think. because you are so far from ground, you cannot hear any unit sound // shots. so microing at zoomed out will not be as effective; macroing big army on the other had could be.
Also theres FPS drop, so maybe thats why they didnt enable it. A max limit army clash would probably slow any PC down.
Exactly, if they made it a feature everyone would try to turn it on and they would complain their computer doesn't work in the big battles so it's blizzard's fault. Answer? Turn it off.
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On March 13 2010 03:34 Sere wrote:
I'm going to assume you've hacked at one point in your life, thus why you're so overly defensive in regards to the subject.
I don't know who's right, but that's a pretty bold claim. No one should be making claims like that.
Also, you said you were an admin for ICCUP, can you elaborate? ID? When? How many hacks did you see? Were they ever picked up by the anti-hack? Why not? I thought the anti-hack worked pretty well, I didn't know ICCUP players hacked.
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On March 13 2010 11:25 rackdude wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2010 03:34 Sere wrote:
I'm going to assume you've hacked at one point in your life, thus why you're so overly defensive in regards to the subject.
I don't know who's right, but that's a pretty bold claim. No one should be making claims like that. Also, you said you were an admin for ICCUP, can you elaborate? ID? When? How many hacks did you see? Were they ever picked up by the anti-hack? Why not? I thought the anti-hack worked pretty well, I didn't know ICCUP players hacked.
My ID was iCCup.Sere, and no... the anti-hack only picked up probably 10% of maphacks. It basically only got the first one or two you came across searching in google. Most maphacks bypass the launcher (or did... they may have updated it).
There are two types of hacking issues on ICCup. The first is people that use maphacks which are detected (as said above, very few are actually detected; only the 2-3 most well known). These are listed in the admin panel as games being played with a maphack and are auto-submitted to admins to review.
The second type of review are games where both players use the launcher, but one of them (usually the loser, although winners do as well) submits a complaint that the other player used a hack. These are manually submitted by the players, and then reviewed by an admin. If the admin determines a hack was used, the replay is forwarded to a super admin to make a final decision. Basically you looked for things like lack of scouting, suspicious movements, etc. There were a LOT of hack complaints, but not all were actioned. We mostly just banned the people that were blatant... like, dropships coming from 6 > 12 > 3 to attack, and the player at 3 would send two scourge directly into the dropships around 12 without ever seeing them.
I probably banned at least 10 players a day for hacking, and there were 5-6 other admins too. That's a fair amount of people hacking over a "secure" launcher.
Me and a few decently known BW players at the time (Kawaii[Light] and HeavOnEarth are the main two I remember off the top of my head... few people from MYM as well) also tested the launcher by downloading a lot of different hacks directly from a mod on a well known hack website and running them through the launcher. I believe I used somewhere in the neighborhood of ~5 public hacks and ~20 private ones. Not a single private hack was detected, and only four of the five public ones were.
That being said, this was probably between two and three years ago so I'm sure things have changed since then, but I hope that answers your questions.
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I was about to make a topic about a replay from one of my games i just watched and stumbled across this topic. Since i believe he had something like the zoom hack this topic is about i thought i could post it here instead of making a new one.
http://drop.sc/365465
Everything looks normal (except for him doing lots of things at the edge of the screen) until his blink stalker attack. Towards the end of it he warps in units out of screen (could be minimap warp in) and blinks outside of the visible screen (can't explain that). In the end he rebuilds his nexus out of screen aswell.
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I was really doubtful, but after watching that replay it definitely looks like a zoom hack.
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On November 19 2013 04:19 .oNe. wrote:I was about to make a topic about a replay from one of my games i just watched and stumbled across this topic. Since i believe he had something like the zoom hack this topic is about i thought i could post it here instead of making a new one. http://drop.sc/365465Everything looks normal (except for him doing lots of things at the edge of the screen) until his blink stalker attack. Towards the end of it he warps in units out of screen (could be minimap warp in) and blinks outside of the visible screen (can't explain that). In the end he rebuilds his nexus out of screen aswell.
you should use this thread instead
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340614
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Anyone know where I can find one of these zoom trainers?
I'm trying to love the game again, but the default zoom distance is straight trash.
I can't believe they never fixed this, and never increased the minimap size...
Any game that goes over one or two bases just feels like slogging through mud fighting the interface. No proper maneuvering, flanks etc. are possible with the shitty combo of tiny inaccurate minimap and stupid face-smashed-to-the-ground field of view. (no lecture on drag speed/camera hotkeys is necessary thank you)
I guess I could accept it and just play idiot deathballs for the rest of my career, or stop playing an otherwise great game.. hmm.. I'll be playing low supply strats until I decide I guess.
Anyways, thanks in advance!
User was temp banned for asking for hacks.
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It seems useful but i don't think it would help a lot in practice.
It will lower your selection accuracy proportionally.
And if you do the zooming actions during the game, you have to spare some of your apm for that.
Damn, i am still playing this game on a 15.6 inch screen lol.
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I was just tongue-in-cheek 'asking for a trainer' btw....
Thanks for the tips, I get around fine for the most part with a couple camera hotkeys and dragscroll on a mouse button.
But nothing can make up for me pulling my scroll-wheel down and NOTHING HAPPENS. I do it instinctively because it makes 100% sense what should happen, and needs to happen, and am painfully disappointed every time. Meanwhile scroll-wheel up zooms *in* (?!?!) to where nothing but the town hall, not even a full mineral line, fits on the screen - totally expletive useless.
It's 2017 and our FoV is worse than BW. It's just such a false, senseless limitation on playability.
Anybody who's computer can't handle an extra ~15% zoom distance in 2017 isn't playing competitively anyways.
Anyways, I know most people are on the teet and don't care (or blindly disagree), but I have to bring it up every time I try to get back into the game seriously. It's a joke as it stands.
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Well, it's not Europa Universalis, normal zoom distance is fine and balance
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why bump this wtf ?????????
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TBH I find the view area to be way too small as well.
Especially in the age of wide screen monitors (16 : 9), the bottom HUD placement makes it way worse than when it was 4:3..
It should be placed on the side if anything.
We see a heavily rectangular main map that favors left-right view more than up-down. I'm guessing the ratio of it is like (horizontal) 16:7 (vertical) when you consider the HUD, if not worse. Why do we see more than 2 times horizontally than vertically?? It's not a movie, it's a fucking map.
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On May 30 2017 07:05 DieuCure wrote:
Well, it's not Europa Universalis, normal zoom distance is fine and balance
I understand the teet is enjoyable.
On May 30 2017 07:09 WhosQuany wrote:
why bump this wtf ?????????
So it gets more bumps like yours.
Voice packs and skins are cute, but NOTHING will improve the look and feel and appeal of the game more than Blizz setting this ONE variable properly.
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This is the first time i see a zoom complain
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wow people will omplain about anything
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The game is obviously marred by the shitty FoV if you've ever spent any time thinking about the micro, macro, strategy, or fun of it.
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Silly troll, most here think of little else.
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Then most here agree with me and I'm preaching (as I would like to think) to the choir.
But there are always mindless shills in the mix, and they seem to have the loudest mouths.
The thoughtful lot ought speak up.
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