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TheHof
United States92 Posts
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Tef
Sweden443 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On March 12 2010 01:45 TheHof wrote: Another thing to consider is how much zoom to give observers. I'm not a fan of making the zoom level further out for play just because it rocks the skill level required to play a bit towards easier, but for observers and replays I would like having a wider view at times. I especially think of SC1 TvT, being able to spot both tank armies at the same time would really help out for the audience. I second this suggestion! | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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Sere
158 Posts
On March 12 2010 01:46 Tef wrote: If they have time to zoom in and out and still micro/macro as well as I do, then they deserve the win and would most likely have won either way. I don't see the significant benefit in this as I use the minimap for spotting anyways. However, it is always nice to know that everyone is playing by the same rules. Micro and macro is irrelevant, as zooming out actually makes micro easier in most situations (more visible screen means less scrolling around). Sure, if you're doing the whole ball vs ball epic showdown in the center of the map, zooming doesn't do too much. What it does allow, however, is a greater ability to flank and manage the battlefield. Once you split your ball up, you have to start scrolling around a little to keep an eye on each cluster. With the screen zoomed out more, you could see all clusters at the same time, removing the need to scroll entirely. Yes, in most games this won't matter too much. But in the ones it does, it does so greatly. | ||
Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
On March 12 2010 01:45 TheHof wrote: Another thing to consider is how much zoom to give observers. I'm not a fan of making the zoom level further out for play just because it rocks the skill level required to play a bit towards easier, but for observers and replays I would like having a wider view at times. I especially think of SC1 TvT, being able to spot both tank armies at the same time would really help out for the audience. I'm not so sure, being able to see the whole map, or in this case a large portion of it, means spectators will be staring at a single unchanging screen. I find it much more exciting to watch the obs flick around the map. | ||
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gds
Iceland1391 Posts
On March 12 2010 01:25 Biochemist wrote: The good thing about SC2 is that with keys bound you your b.net account, blizzard will be perma-banning people found to be using these programs (at least once the game comes out, if not even in beta). Having to go buy another copy of SC2 to play on b.net again will probably discourage hacking the second time around. maybe it will dscourage some people for some times but when in one year the game's price will drop to 50%, in two year it will be a 10$ game, being banned from SC2 will become cheaper and cheaper. So it's not a viable solution. | ||
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Bane_
United Kingdom494 Posts
On March 12 2010 01:54 gds wrote: maybe it will dscourage some people for some times but when in one year the game's price will drop to 50%, in two year it will be a 10$ game, being banned from SC2 will become cheaper and cheaper. So it's not a viable solution. Hopefully it will be when they have to buy the game and 2 expansion packs ontop of it each time.  | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On March 12 2010 01:54 gds wrote: maybe it will dscourage some people for some times but when in one year the game's price will drop to 50%, in two year it will be a 10$ game, being banned from SC2 will become cheaper and cheaper. So it's not a viable solution. It's really the same as with any other game. People will hack knowing it might cost them $50 that's just the way it is. I think many just get tired and figure what the hell I might as well load up some imba hacks and get a couple of wins for once, even if I get banned in the process. It's always been especially common in games of extremely competitive nature where noobs stand 0% chance to win against those that take time to actually learn the game On March 12 2010 02:00 Bane_ wrote:Hopefully it will be when they have to buy the game and 2 expansion packs ontop of it each time. o hi starcraft 2 battle chest $29.99 | ||
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MadLag
Poland82 Posts
any way if u know he hacks u meet him 9 times and know he drops u at the end why the fuck u dont leave earlier and have replay ?? then report him to blizz and then PROFIT !! | ||
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AmstAff
Germany949 Posts
- larger monitor = more screen - better hardware = better resolution = more screen - widescreen mointor = more screen so who cares if he has a hack to see more or just more money to see more. if i am wrong i apologize. | ||
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Puosu
6990 Posts
On March 12 2010 02:01 MadLag wrote: and how the hell u can tell some one is zooming out ( LOOOL :DD) if u even dont have replay -_- not to mention that this is worthy shit unless u have build in maphack to remove fog of war ;D honstly i think u are just bad and come with some cry shit excusess for lose -_- any way if u know he hacks u meet him 9 times and know he drops u at the end why the fuck u dont leave earlier and have replay ?? then report him to blizz and then PROFIT !! The hack is available on multiple blizzard hacking related sites, so no, he is not just whining its a serious problem. | ||
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Perkins1752
Germany214 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On March 12 2010 01:20 Sere wrote: It makes sense, though. People cracked the game for offline play within 24 hours of the beta client release. ~48 hours after that, the first maphack surfaced. We're going on a month now, which is more than enough time for people to write any kind of hacks they can imagine. I give it another week or two before all of these hacks become public, and a private B.Net server pops up. offline crack took 2-3 weeks :/ | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
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Sere
158 Posts
On March 12 2010 02:01 MadLag wrote: and how the hell u can tell some one is zooming out ( LOOOL :DD) if u even dont have replay -_- not to mention that this is worthy shit unless u have build in maphack to remove fog of war ;D honstly i think u are just bad and come with some cry shit excusess for lose -_- any way if u know he hacks u meet him 9 times and know he drops u at the end why the fuck u dont leave earlier and have replay ?? then report him to blizz and then PROFIT !! Do you have Down's Syndrome or something? Or perhaps you're just too illiterate to read anything. Either way, I'll spell it out for you because I'm such a nice guy. a) Hackers admit using zoom hack b) Zoom hack is available on google c) Zoom hack comes bundled with maphack If you still can't make sense of that, I would recommend doing society a favor and cutting your wrists or something. Back on topic, I've verified with an acquaintance at a well known BW hack site that there is a public mineral hack in the works, and should be out shortly. In addition, the following hacks are currently available (again, according to my source; I have not personally seen all of these yet) Public hacks - Map, Zoom, Lag, Drop Private hacks - Mineral (no gas - not sure why this isn't in it), Disconnect (apparently this differs from the public drop hack; the public one times you out of the game (as if you were lagging) and kicks you to the lobby. The private one apparently instantly kicks you to the login screen), Speed, and something called an Ally hack (I'm assuming this may be used for backstabbing in locked teams?) I would expect private hacks to make it public before too long. That being said, I'm told at least one person has been creating hacks and sending them in to Blizzard, so hopefully between that and whatever information they gather from B.Net, they can use this to create a solid anti-hack for release. It's a pain in the ass being hacked in a beta, but at least it gives Blizzard a chance to prevent it later on. Also for zoom, I think the max zoom should be increased to any point (say, twice what it is now) but that it should be locked during ladder matches at maybe 120% of what it is now. One thing to consider with zoom are UMS maps, which could make great use of additional zoom levels. | ||
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squ1d
United States178 Posts
Now Laghacks and Drophacks are extremely annoying, because they take no skill whatsoever to use. | ||
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Sere
158 Posts
On March 12 2010 02:27 squ1d wrote: Maphacks aren't worth shit, because the guy will not have the ability to exploit his information advantage. He is probably a noob WoW player anyways and anyone of us can easily steamroll them. Now Laghacks and Drophacks are extremely annoying, because they take no skill whatsoever to use. I think you're underestimating how beneficial a maphack can be in SC2. For example, if you're a Terran player you have to juggle between Mules and Scans. With a maphack, you no longer need to worry about that entire mechanic. Units like Roaches, which are great to burrow and sneak around somewhere, become pretty much useless. In fact, maphacks negate the entire Burrow ability (not to mention any cloaked units). And then there's the obvious issue of knowing where expansions are. It doesn't take a progamer to use information such as that. In fact, the large majority of SC2 players will be SC/BW and WC3 players. Most WoW players are too stupid to take on a computer and will just give up on the game after they can't beat the first campaign level. 90% of the people that will be using hacks will have enough knowledge to put them to use. Granted, the longer the game is out the wider the skill gap will become (kinda like how in BW now you can steamroll most hackers because of the sheer skill difference). But for the first 6-12 months minimum of retail, hackers will really put a dent in the ladders unless Blizzard finds a way to prevent it now. Also, I agree on the lag/drop hacks  | ||
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Xxio
Canada5565 Posts
On March 12 2010 02:04 MeProU_Kor wrote: as far as i know: - larger monitor = more screen - better hardware = better resolution = more screen - widescreen mointor = more screen so who cares if he has a hack to see more or just more money to see more. if i am wrong i apologize. I'm pretty sure the size of the monitor has nothing to do with being able to see more in game - it only has to do with the resolution. I could be wrong though. | ||
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JohannesH
Finland1364 Posts
But hacking the UI to get an advantage isnt good of course no matter what issue its on. | ||
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