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c0sm0naut
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1229 Posts
February 04 2013 21:28 GMT
#101
yep, he was a 40 point master Z last season,
not 400
40
Xorphene
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom492 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 21:33:44
February 04 2013 21:33 GMT
#102
Nice to see they still don't acknowledge the problems with Zerg in HotS...

Skyterran, Hellbat drops, Skytoss.
T: Polt, Fantasy, Flash, Jjakji. P: HerO, Rain, Grubby, SoS. Z: Jaedong, Scarlett, Snute, Life. Casters: ToD, Apollo, MrBitter, Artosis, Day[9].
TurboDreams
Profile Joined April 2009
United States427 Posts
February 04 2013 21:35 GMT
#103
Wow has Blizzard really lost it? I know for a fact when I switch from BW to SC2 im going to avoid 1v1 and just play 2v2 or something.
Music is the medicine of the mind || Kill a Zergling and a hundred more will take its place.
gCgCrypto
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany297 Posts
February 04 2013 21:37 GMT
#104
On February 05 2013 06:35 Musiq wrote:
Wow has Blizzard really lost it? I know for a fact when I switch from BW to SC2 im going to avoid 1v1 and just play 2v2 or something.

No need to switch to SC2 now that SC2BW is complete and has weekly tournaments with 100$ proize pool (starting next week i think with a one time 200$ prize)
just in time
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
TurboDreams
Profile Joined April 2009
United States427 Posts
February 04 2013 21:39 GMT
#105
On February 05 2013 06:37 gCgCrypto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 06:35 Musiq wrote:
Wow has Blizzard really lost it? I know for a fact when I switch from BW to SC2 im going to avoid 1v1 and just play 2v2 or something.

No need to switch to SC2 now that SC2BW is complete and has weekly tournaments with 100$ proize pool (starting next week i think with a one time 200$ prize)
just in time

Ill have to look that up, the last time I played an SC2BW map it was horribly outdated...
Music is the medicine of the mind || Kill a Zergling and a hundred more will take its place.
gCgCrypto
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany297 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 21:48:37
February 04 2013 21:43 GMT
#106
On February 05 2013 06:39 Musiq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 06:37 gCgCrypto wrote:
On February 05 2013 06:35 Musiq wrote:
Wow has Blizzard really lost it? I know for a fact when I switch from BW to SC2 im going to avoid 1v1 and just play 2v2 or something.

No need to switch to SC2 now that SC2BW is complete and has weekly tournaments with 100$ proize pool (starting next week i think with a one time 200$ prize)
just in time

Ill have to look that up, the last time I played an SC2BW map it was horribly outdated...


Its just very recently that they finished it completly (like 3 days ago or sth)
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
AnAngryDingo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States223 Posts
February 04 2013 21:54 GMT
#107
On February 05 2013 05:04 Prog455 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 03:48 nomyx wrote:
On February 05 2013 03:41 EleanorRIgby wrote:
they are making much smaller changes now, i think hots needs a couple more big patches


Most probably afraid of doing such drastic changes when HOTS is so close to release.

If they were to do a big patch, I would love for them to add in Scourge for zerg to deal with all these new air units


They should adopt their former philosophy of releasing a game when the game is done. I highly doubt that they'll be happy to see HotS turn out as Diable 3 did.

B



Side effect merging with activison
Prime Directive
Profile Joined December 2011
United States186 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 21:57:47
February 04 2013 21:54 GMT
#108
Think a better change would be the ability to morph an overseer at tier 1. Not as big of an investment so early in the game and changelings / contaminate might make for an intersting early game tool to prevent timings.
DemigodcelpH
Profile Joined August 2011
1138 Posts
February 04 2013 21:59 GMT
#109
On February 05 2013 05:47 goswser wrote:
Medivac/hellbat drops, skytoss, hellbats in general, voidrays...Why can't they actually balance the game instead of making irrelevant changes?


In head on fights Zerg craps on anything Terran that isn't bio because of Vipers. And then Zerg tier 3 craps on bio anyways.
Valon
Profile Joined June 2011
United States329 Posts
February 04 2013 22:22 GMT
#110
What zerg is going to go ovie speed at hatch tech. Spend the gas on the lair, it will be more useful.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 22:24:02
February 04 2013 22:23 GMT
#111
On February 05 2013 06:59 DemigodcelpH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 05:47 goswser wrote:
Medivac/hellbat drops, skytoss, hellbats in general, voidrays...Why can't they actually balance the game instead of making irrelevant changes?


In head on fights Zerg craps on anything Terran that isn't bio because of Vipers. And then Zerg tier 3 craps on bio anyways.


This is incorrect. Bio can actually fight really well vs zerg armies, especially with widow mine support or battle hellion support. Vipers aren't that great vs bio, they are great vs tanks though obviously.

Also the counter to ultras are the same as in WoL (hint marauders) and vs bl/corr/infestor ravens are sick good verse that :D
Also ravens are sick good to .
When I think of something else, something will go here
TheSambassador
Profile Joined May 2010
United States186 Posts
February 04 2013 22:27 GMT
#112
The overlord speed at hatch tech seems really useless. There is NO situation that overlord speed would be better than Ling speed, lair, or burrow. You can just sac an overlord to get most information anyways, and going to Lair lets you morph overseers. I'm really confused by this... nobody is ever going to do this.

I feel like in the ZvZs that I've played (not that many, since I play random), I haven't really run into the Muta vs Muta thing. It seems like I can do the same normal stuff (infestor/roach/hydra) and be successful against mass mutas. Fungals are "harder" to land but not impossible, like most people seem to think. If you hit 4-6 mutas with a Fungal, that's really all you need. Fungal seems fast enough to hit mutas... you just have to lead the target.

Am I completely wrong here? Is higher-level ZvZ really that much harder to land fungals?
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
February 04 2013 22:33 GMT
#113
I still feel like there's more too be done before its ready like I want a nerd to storm DMG. Spore change won't matter if you have like 30 mutas. Maybe early on it matters but I think they assume you will go hydra and infestor vs a mass Muta.
RuneZerg
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark90 Posts
February 04 2013 22:36 GMT
#114
Swarm Host anyone? defines useless
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 04 2013 22:38 GMT
#115
On February 05 2013 07:23 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 06:59 DemigodcelpH wrote:
On February 05 2013 05:47 goswser wrote:
Medivac/hellbat drops, skytoss, hellbats in general, voidrays...Why can't they actually balance the game instead of making irrelevant changes?


In head on fights Zerg craps on anything Terran that isn't bio because of Vipers. And then Zerg tier 3 craps on bio anyways.


This is incorrect. Bio can actually fight really well vs zerg armies, especially with widow mine support or battle hellion support. Vipers aren't that great vs bio, they are great vs tanks though obviously.

Also the counter to ultras are the same as in WoL (hint marauders) and vs bl/corr/infestor ravens are sick good verse that :D
Also ravens are sick good to .


Also, I thought every race was supposed to have totally broken stuff? So then we can all use our totally broken stuff to win games and be pumped about it.

I would rather people be finding broken stuff in beta that we learn to deal with over time. Remember when we all though marauders were broken? Those days were the good old days.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Ambre
Profile Joined July 2011
France416 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 22:44:19
February 04 2013 22:43 GMT
#116
People, don't worry, when D3 first came out I was really excited, but then I realised that the game had very little replayability, but now I am playing it again as well as more than dozens of people

Hots is on the right tracks.
"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self." - Aldous Huxley
Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
February 04 2013 22:46 GMT
#117
I think a drastic change to corruptors (a pretty big buff) so that they trade on part with void rays is needed. It would solve the sky terran problem aswell. Obviously not a too huge buff that would slaughter air play, just a pretty big one so that you can have an answer.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 22:59:29
February 04 2013 22:58 GMT
#118
as nice as envision buff is, i only need 30 sec to build a new oracle so it makes not really much sense ... more fix the broken problems with burrowhorsts xD

On February 05 2013 07:46 Karpfen wrote:
I think a drastic change to corruptors (a pretty big buff) so that they trade on part with void rays is needed. It would solve the sky terran problem aswell. Obviously not a too huge buff that would slaughter air play, just a pretty big one so that you can have an answer.


jaeh so colossi because absolue useless ^^ sounds right ... are you kidding ?
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 04 2013 22:59 GMT
#119
On February 05 2013 07:43 Ambre wrote:
People, don't worry, when D3 first came out I was really excited, but then I realised that the game had very little replayability, but now I am playing it again as well as more than dozens of people

Hots is on the right tracks.


I went back as well and its pretty good at this point. Blizzard is best over time, as they refine their games. After all, the D2 we love came after the expansion. Blizzard always builds on a foundation. SC prime was pretty busted when it came out, also.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
February 04 2013 23:00 GMT
#120
On February 05 2013 07:59 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 07:43 Ambre wrote:
People, don't worry, when D3 first came out I was really excited, but then I realised that the game had very little replayability, but now I am playing it again as well as more than dozens of people

Hots is on the right tracks.


I went back as well and its pretty good at this point. Blizzard is best over time, as they refine their games. After all, the D2 we love came after the expansion. Blizzard always builds on a foundation. SC prime was pretty busted when it came out, also.


i still play d2 because d3 is still shit bad example ^^
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
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