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Duncaaaaaan
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom101 Posts
September 05 2012 21:47 GMT
#641
On September 06 2012 06:43 aeroblaster wrote:
DOTA is an RTS


hahahahahahahaha

ahahahahahahaha

oh man

User was warned for this post
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 21:49:21
September 05 2012 21:48 GMT
#642
On September 06 2012 06:45 Cuce wrote:
dota is not an rts and valve didnt made it, valve reskined it.

dota or any other moba overshadowing starcraft2 has nothing to do with their quality. Full throttle is the greatest game ever made but sold 1/12349023450259390490 or sims.

In addition, RTSs are too difficult to play for many people. It takes so much focus and concentration to get shit done. Meanwhile, I can jump on CoD after being awake for 20 hours and drunk as fuck and still smoke noobs and even if I don't, it's still not frustrating or boring. That said, CoD is a shitty game XD. I feel like it's just a "party game" so to speak; anyone can play it and it takes 0 skill.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
September 05 2012 21:48 GMT
#643
On September 06 2012 06:47 Duncaaaaaan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 06:43 aeroblaster wrote:
DOTA is an RTS


hahahahahahahaha

ahahahahahahaha

oh man


you didn't know the sims were an ARPG?
Zest fanboy.
architecture
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States643 Posts
September 05 2012 21:50 GMT
#644
If you want to split hairs and not consider DOTA a RTS, then you should know this:

The market for RTS is really small. Most people these days are not interested in a pure RTS a la AOE2/SC1.

So if you don't want to consider DOTA an extension of RTS, then we can safely say RTS is dead.
tpfkan
Tausken
Profile Joined March 2011
United States81 Posts
September 05 2012 21:50 GMT
#645
stop talking about dota and lets concentrate on how bad the warhound is
Peace Through Power
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
September 05 2012 21:50 GMT
#646
On September 06 2012 06:50 architecture wrote:
If you want to split hairs and not consider DOTA a RTS, then you should know this:

The market for RTS is really small. Most people these days are not interested in a pure RTS a la AOE2/SC1.

So if you don't want to consider DOTA an extension of RTS, then we can safely say RTS is dead.


the market was never big and with a big title alive (SC2) it's far from dead...
Zest fanboy.
Jaegeru
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom676 Posts
September 05 2012 21:52 GMT
#647
Warhounds seem slightly too fast for mech units imo, but I like it since it gives you a good way for dealing with roach harass playing mech since hellions are garbage at dealing with it and tanks are far too slow - so making 5 - 6 warhounds tvz to deal with roach harass is good.
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Duncaaaaaan
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom101 Posts
September 05 2012 21:53 GMT
#648
On September 06 2012 06:52 Jaegeru wrote:
Warhounds seem slightly too fast for mech units imo, but I like it since it gives you a good way for dealing with roach harass playing mech since hellions are garbage at dealing with it and tanks are far too slow - so making 5 - 6 warhounds tvz to deal with roach harass is good.


What's wrong with marauders or banshees?

You don't have to go hellion + thor in every TvZ you know...
Cuce
Profile Joined March 2011
Turkey1127 Posts
September 05 2012 21:53 GMT
#649
On September 06 2012 06:50 architecture wrote:
If you want to split hairs and not consider DOTA a RTS, then you should know this:

The market for RTS is really small. Most people these days are not interested in a pure RTS a la AOE2/SC1.

So if you don't want to consider DOTA an extension of RTS, then we can safely say RTS is dead.



ok then should we include farmvilles to icon adventure genre so that we can call adventure games "alive"
real time tactics is a genre as old as rts, its not spliting hairs. its being accurate. moba's would not replace the experience of an rts game and vice versa.
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HeavenResign
Profile Joined April 2011
United States702 Posts
September 05 2012 21:54 GMT
#650
On September 06 2012 06:42 Duncaaaaaan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 06:35 DrowSwordsman wrote:
On September 06 2012 06:20 Duncaaaaaan wrote:
Terran = the new A move race.

No thought required, make battle hellions, make warhounds, make vikings, A move, win game.

So this is how Dustin Bowder thought of making mech more viable in TvP? Just turn mech into bio in big metal boxes with legs?

Fuck this shit. I can stand changes like worker auto mine and not being able to click on enemies or mineral patches, but I cannot stand the way the terran game is shifting.

I've been watching ForGG and all he's done every single match is make those two units and just tried to out-upgrade and out-concave his opponent, absolutely zero skill involved compared to making tanks or going bio.



Wait, you can't click on enemy units to see their upgrades? Or click enemy resources to see how much gas they've mined??


I think you can still click on geysers to check, but you cannot click on mineral patches, period. Not even your own. Meh, it's not going to ruin it for me.



How are you supposed to know how many minerals are left in a patch, and how many probes are worth keeping at a mining base? Wow that is terrible.
DuckNuked
Profile Joined June 2012
France60 Posts
September 05 2012 21:54 GMT
#651
Roach harass must be dealt with POSITIONNAL tank play. Some hellions/Thors ready to move. that's how mech players do it right now, and it works. You can even use HSM Raven to help defend some tanks or deflect any drop roach on your army. WH just doesn't fit in.
Terran Forum "TvP HELP", Protoss Forum "PvZ HELP!", Zerg Forum: "What use for Hydra???"
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 05 2012 21:56 GMT
#652
On September 06 2012 06:47 Duncaaaaaan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 06:43 aeroblaster wrote:
DOTA is an RTS


hahahahahahahaha

ahahahahahahaha

oh man

It is though, it's heavily strategy-based and it's in real time.
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LOLItsRyann
Profile Joined April 2011
England551 Posts
September 05 2012 21:57 GMT
#653
For me, everything will be balanced eventually, and terran already has a lot of micro, so I'm fine with how it works. It's more just the artwork. Needs less walkers, also, the thor is a walker, but it's like big badass, and looks cool, the warhound is actually aesthetically ugly though imo.

I mean think about this, with it's haywire missiles, surely it'd be better off to have the model as something similar to the tank? That way it actually is a mech unit, the haywire missiles would be like a rotating turret thing on the back like you get on some tanks, and it would just look more fitting.

It just looks like a drunken mess.. And espcially with the battle hellions. I mean come on, tanks, warhound, battle hellions? This isn't star wars.
EG<3
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 21:58:42
September 05 2012 21:57 GMT
#654
On September 06 2012 06:56 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 06:47 Duncaaaaaan wrote:
On September 06 2012 06:43 aeroblaster wrote:
DOTA is an RTS


hahahahahahahaha

ahahahahahahaha

oh man

It is though, it's heavily strategy-based and it's in real time.


it's an heavily tactical oriented game with small stratedy inside (like sc2 anyways) if you want to take that path which doesn't explain at all what an rts is.
Zest fanboy.
WickedBit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States343 Posts
September 05 2012 21:59 GMT
#655
Mech play is supposed to be powerful, positional and with low mobility. Warhound is too fast, too powerful and just a move. It is as non mech as anything can be. It has to be adjusted a lot to make it good.
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
September 05 2012 21:59 GMT
#656
Least exciting unit of the expansion. Not only that, it was designed to fix a problem that's not even worth fixing. Who wants to watch two armies A-move each other in TvT? I'd rather watch Tank Wars.
HeavenResign
Profile Joined April 2011
United States702 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 22:01:52
September 05 2012 22:01 GMT
#657
On September 06 2012 06:59 Arco wrote:
Least exciting unit of the expansion. Not only that, it was designed to fix a problem that's not even worth fixing. Who wants to watch two armies A-move each other in TvT? I'd rather watch Tank Wars.


Exactly. Plus, I haven't seen anything worthy of being called a stale-mate tank line since Shakuras Plateau at like...maybe MLG Anaheim 2011 (sorry that I can't name the game, it is a little too long ago for me).
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
September 05 2012 22:05 GMT
#658
On September 06 2012 07:01 DrowSwordsman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 06:59 Arco wrote:
Least exciting unit of the expansion. Not only that, it was designed to fix a problem that's not even worth fixing. Who wants to watch two armies A-move each other in TvT? I'd rather watch Tank Wars.


Exactly. Plus, I haven't seen anything worthy of being called a stale-mate tank line since Shakuras Plateau at like...maybe MLG Anaheim 2011 (sorry that I can't name the game, it is a little too long ago for me).


which is normal considering the fact blizz are really late on their vods :D
Zest fanboy.
imMUTAble787
Profile Joined November 2011
United States680 Posts
September 05 2012 22:11 GMT
#659
These things are the ugliest, most retarded looking units I have ever seen.

If robots could have trisomy21 , they would look like the Warhound
*eternalenvy fanboy*
kaokentake
Profile Joined July 2012
383 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-05 22:15:35
September 05 2012 22:14 GMT
#660
starcraft 2 is MMA

dota 2 is basketball

sadly, one is more impressive, and one is more popular

i watch MMA, dont watch popular

however, on a flip side, most people probably give GSP or Junior Dos Santos or Cain Velasquez more respect than Ron Artest

but basketballs biggest star kobe bryant / Jordan gets more respect (or should i say recognition) than MMA stars
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