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On December 14 2010 05:19 DoctorPhil wrote:
Sure, the multiplayer is great (so is the single player gameplay). My tastes recently changed though, I'm no longer interested in multiplayer that much because it never ends, I'd personally rather use that time to enjoy other different games, rather than the same thing all the time. Of course that's just me (being a part of a very small minority here). A game without a good story but with good gameplay is fun of course, but never memorable.
I thought WC3 had a teriffic story and awesome characters, though I never played the earlyer WCs and thus was never aware of the lore butchery and retcons. I was also very young when I played it so it could've been nostalgia. However I first played Starcraft when I was a lot older, 17, so there's no nostalgia there, yet I still love vanilla Starcraft's story. But truthfully BW wasn't quite as good, if only because of the Zerg turning into Kerrigan's bitch and all the others suffering from acute mental retardation. Firstly, Dugalle killing his childhood friend Alexei just because Duran said he was infested. He doesn't even question this for one second? Why the hell does he trust Duran over Alexei? Also, everyone trusting the potentially evil as fuck Kerrigan.
But anyway, vanilla Starcraft was great, BW and WC3 were passable, SC2 is a joke. (story-wise)
Wouldn't it be great if SC2 was a joke from blizzard? "Oh, hey guys, we actually kept the real SC2 game and campaign hidden for a year just for kicks. What you've been playing was something this 10 year-old kid wrote up. Here, have the real game now. You've deserved it."
I can agree with the rest of your post. I did enjoy the vanilla SC plot, although I still think that it was pretty unoriginal at times.
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Was anyone here a huge fan of StarWars when it was just episodes 4,5, and 6? Anyone else remember being mega, super excited for episode 1? Then after you watched it you made yourself believe it was good but deep down you knew it paled in comparison. I'm getting this same feeling with StarCraft and even though George took some of the concerns with episode 1 and applied them to the remaining 2 movies they were still nowhere near the awesomeness they should have been. I feel like StarCraft's next installment is going to be very similar.
During a blizzcon Q&A fans shared concerns with the panel and they assured everyone that the story was going to develop and be super kick-ass.(paraphrased of course)
Then there is this post by Nethaera on a lengthy b.net thread voicing story shortcoming concerns. She assures us that, "Blizzard writers are aware of your concerns and criticisms that are being aired here in the forums. Rest assured, they see all of it, and take all of it very seriously." The full post can be found here.
I really hope this cut-scene is outdated. Weather its final or not, only blizzard knows and it's set in stone. (because full cinematics take a really long time to make and are often done long before the game is, assuming this is a full cinematic.)
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Stop comparing starwars to starcraft. It is a terrible analogy and the originals of SW were always way better than the originals of SC.
And the leak predates WoL by about a year, so...
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if this is indeed the real deal and now that blizzard knows that it's been leaked to the public, how funny/infuriating it'd be if blizzard actually releases hots with this exact same ending
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On December 14 2010 13:45 Billy_ wrote:
Stop comparing starwars to starcraft. It is a terrible analogy and the originals of SW were always way better than the originals of SC.
And the leak predates WoL by about a year, so...
I'm not comparing StarWars to StarCraft, I'm comparing the failures storytelling and how it is similar in both cases. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear on that point, hopefully that will help ^_^
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On December 09 2010 09:21 MavercK wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2010 09:18 Zzoram wrote:On December 09 2010 09:17 Fargoth wrote:
I'm more inclined to think this was a possibility for the WoL storyline and in the end, was scrapped. I could also be completely wrong and it really is the ending for HoTS. Doubtful. WoL was Raynor's campaign, it wouldn't make sense for the final showdown to be Kerrigan vs Mengsk. we can atleast hope Blizzard USED to be great at creating storylines
Then they created WoW, and screwed up their storymaking
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Yeah WoW+Activision = Raped blizzards ability to make stories.
I played wow for 6 years, it went from good to bad and lastly shit.
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Can someone who downloaded the second video "kerrigan dies" upload it somewhere, please. I cant find it anywhere.
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please blizzard... don't destroy the sc story any further.. the damage done by WoL can still be repaired but if you screw up HotS it will be dead..
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I don't understand why people think Activision ruined Blizzard's storytelling. I seriously don't think SC, WC1/2/3, or Diablo 1/2 are any better than SC2. WC3 was actually cringe worthy and I couldn't even get through the cutscenes so I think SC2 is better. They are all pretty damn lame and predictable. Yeah I was more into SC1's story at the time, I was also 15.
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i just hope blizzard dont make the 3 races vs hybrid=_= we had that in war3 so please dont do it again. it will make HotS so lame. give us a badass storyline!!!
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On December 16 2010 06:42 Treemonkeys wrote:
I don't understand why people think Activision ruined Blizzard's storytelling. I seriously don't think SC, WC1/2/3, or Diablo 1/2 are any better than SC2. WC3 was actually cringe worthy and I couldn't even get through the cutscenes so I think SC2 is better. They are all pretty damn lame and predictable. Yeah I was more into SC1's story at the time, I was also 15.
OH GOD
so much good
sometimes i really find someone having a spark of sense in them, it makes me really happy. Thank you for existing Treemonkeys
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On December 09 2010 07:47 Zzoram wrote:Kerrigan Dies (SC2 WoL cutscene previs with original superior voice actress):
http://vimeo.com/14564550 - ActiBlizzard nuked
Kerrigan Dies is almost identical to what ended up in Wings of Liberty, except for the change of voice actress, so Kerrigan Arrives might be pretty close to what we end up getting for Heart of the Swarm. The company that made this video is apparently listed in the credits of Wings of Liberty.
Where can I find this one? I'm more curious about it
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From Zerg_Reveal_FINAL_EnglishUS2_XVid.avi
We, are the swarm
We burned a path of annihilation across the stars
And then, we vanished
4 years ago we faded into the shadows
We thrived. We evolved
Now the time has come for us to step back, into the light
Now, worlds will tremble once again
Empires will fall
Alliances will shatter
We, are the swarm
But we are becoming, much, much more
For the final metamorphosis has only just begun
And then... none of that happened. She Scooby-Dooed it up but would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for that rotten Raynor!
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On December 16 2010 06:42 Treemonkeys wrote:
I don't understand why people think Activision ruined Blizzard's storytelling. I seriously don't think SC, WC1/2/3, or Diablo 1/2 are any better than SC2. WC3 was actually cringe worthy and I couldn't even get through the cutscenes so I think SC2 is better. They are all pretty damn lame and predictable. Yeah I was more into SC1's story at the time, I was also 15.
Mm, I honestly think the SC1 campaign is a good deal less cheesy, even if one big reason is that they didnt have the ability to make the kind of game they made now.
The WC3 storyline felt fine to me - lots of standard fantasy stuff. The SC2 storyline is just... I dont know, the storyline is fine, its just presented in such a terrible way.
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When we were all 13 and playing sc1, we had less expectations for stories and complexities. Now that we're older, we have a quaint nostalgia for sc1 and dislike the 'cheesiness' of the sc2 plot.
Really none of the blizzard stories are great, but that's okay... the campaign will still be fun.
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On December 18 2010 04:58 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 06:42 Treemonkeys wrote:
I don't understand why people think Activision ruined Blizzard's storytelling. I seriously don't think SC, WC1/2/3, or Diablo 1/2 are any better than SC2. WC3 was actually cringe worthy and I couldn't even get through the cutscenes so I think SC2 is better. They are all pretty damn lame and predictable. Yeah I was more into SC1's story at the time, I was also 15. Mm, I honestly think the SC1 campaign is a good deal less cheesy, even if one big reason is that they didnt have the ability to make the kind of game they made now. The WC3 storyline felt fine to me - lots of standard fantasy stuff. The SC2 storyline is just... I dont know, the storyline is fine, its just presented in such a terrible way.
im pretty sure halfway through they forgot they were making a science fiction game as opposed to a fantasy game.
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This is either legit or a very good prank imo. Just gets me excited for hots.
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An epic tale of betrayal, survival, and sacrifice.
Starcraft.
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On December 18 2010 06:10 FirstPanzerDiv wrote:
When we were all 13 and playing sc1, we had less expectations for stories and complexities. Now that we're older, we have a quaint nostalgia for sc1 and dislike the 'cheesiness' of the sc2 plot.
Really none of the blizzard stories are great, but that's okay... the campaign will still be fun.
Can't speak for anyone else, but personally, even if this game wasn't related at all to SC1, I would still have found it just as cheesy and terribly executed. I probably wouldn't have cared as much though, since lots of games nowadays tend to skimp on the story side. But this is Blizz, and I've come to expect more, especially after they've had so much time and money to throw at this sequel.
And people that dislike all of Blizzard's stories are just on a different brain wave than me. I've always felt they've delivered great (if not that original) stories. To each their own I guess.
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