EPTI still get goosebumps when watching the Brood War intro movie, btw. It still holds up so well, even with the horribly aged graphics. Such a shame.
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baba44713
83 Posts
I still get goosebumps when watching the Brood War intro movie, btw. It still holds up so well, even with the horribly aged graphics. Such a shame. | ||
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FromShouri
United States862 Posts
On March 04 2013 16:37 TheSwagger wrote: The wrong reasons? I disagree, the threads title is ambiguous. I'm asking for an edit for clarity, it's not unreasonable at all, if we're being "blunt" about it. I realize people want their threads read and responded to, but this isnt the New York Times or Chicago Tribune; you dont need mysticized or ambiguous titles here. I think there is a clever and yet clear way to describe the threads content in the title like : "Discuss the leaked ending here" [D], or "[D]I cant believe the ending was leaked." You're new around here, its okay, to put it bluntly again NO. If you want to discuss possible endings or what ever the hell you wanted to talk about, do it in other thread, labeled accordingly to your tastes. Don't ever click on "Leaked" titles if you don't want to be spoilered, it really is as simple as that. We've already gone through this with all kinds of tournament results, if you don't want to know who won because you didn't see the game, DON'T COME TO TEAM LIQUID UNTIL YOU WATCHED IT. Same applies here, if you want to "discuss" possible ending for HOTS, go ahead, make your own thread as I stated above, but there is no way in hell you wouldn't expect friggin spoilers in a "LEAKED" thread ffs, get over yourself. Edit-The fact you even came back proves it really isn't that big of a deal if you're willing to read pages upon pages of shit. | ||
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llIH
Norway2147 Posts
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On March 06 2013 01:04 baba44713 wrote: At this point I'm only praying for the awesome campaign missions, I couldn't care less about the story. Regardless whether the leaked ending is the actual ending, the mid-game cutscene or (preferably) just a concept which is mercifully scrapped, the trailer still makes it blatantly obvious that Starcraft 2's story is still a depressingly un-epic retcon love story between two depressingly uninteresting characters. I still get goosebumps when watching the Brood War intro movie, btw. It still holds up so well, even with the horribly aged graphics. Such a shame. Your talking about starcraft 1 right ? where it all was about Raynor and Kerrigan saving the galaxy and having a relationship? But Sc2 basically copys all the story elements of Sc1 just exchanging the end boss with something new, so it is easy to get confused. The biggest difference is that they cut the player being a silent commander, but being a silent observer of the main character now. So you are able to get a bit more of an insight into their personal feelings. Okay a few story bits are pointed out heavier and other seem a bit smaller that way. But I felt like I was replaying Sc1 when I played WoL (Raynor fighting the Evil Terran Empire and helps saving the Sector from the Zerg). And yeah HotS sounds exactly like Broodwar ... poor Kerrigan needing help to get control over the swarm again and then rolls over everyone, that opposes her. If they wouldn't try to attach you emotionally to Kerrigan, there would probably a non faceless Marine in the Intro with a few lines, just like in bw. (Though I think mister Viking would be perfect) I would be more worried about LotV. Because that could turn into a MassEffect3, gather allies to fight the periodically returning endboss that wipes the sector everytime. Guess I don't have to say what Zeratul will have to do at the end, when the Void wants to use the temple on Shakuras to end everything. But it looks so weird if someone is praising Sc1s story while hating on the Sc2 story. I would understand comments like I dislike sc2 because sc1 left me with so many holes that I could fill to my liking. But if someone hates everything in Sc2 it is just strange. | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
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baba44713
83 Posts
On March 06 2013 03:19 FeyFey wrote: Your talking about starcraft 1 right ? where it all was about Raynor and Kerrigan saving the galaxy and having a relationship? ... But it looks so weird if someone is praising Sc1s story while hating on the Sc2 story. I would understand comments like I dislike sc2 because sc1 left me with so many holes that I could fill to my liking. But if someone hates everything in Sc2 it is just strange. Well, I'm confused here. SC1 was anything but Raynor and Kerrigan saving the galaxy and having the relationship. And it didn't leave any holes as I can remember, except for that secret Protoss mission which subtly introduced hybrids as a possible new enemy. So I truly do not know what you're talking about. And I do not hate *everything* in SC2, I like the multiplayer and I like the actual missions. It's just the story that is lazy, childish and woefully simplistic. In SC1 you were a part of a large, bleak intergalactic conflict, with the expansion actually daring to make the story even more complex by introducing additional fractions of the races and upping the ante significantly. And then comes along WoL where you play as retconned-and-newly-haired-up-emo-Raynor trying to save his mortal-enemy-now-retconned-into-his-long-lost-love. The continuation? Kerrigan getting revenge on Mengsk, a rehash of a conflict already dealt with in the final missions in Brood War where it was blatantly obvious Kerrigan has moved way past such petty human squabbles. As far as I can see, instead of going forward, the story is moving backwards and erasing what was actually good about this world in the first place.. so in my book storyline-wise Starcraft is now just an empty shell and a playground for hopefully entertaining campaign missions. Which by itself I guess is not that bad, all things considered. | ||
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FromShouri
United States862 Posts
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On March 06 2013 03:19 FeyFey wrote: Your talking about starcraft 1 right ? where it all was about Raynor and Kerrigan saving the galaxy and having a relationship? Er, he has some "dirty" thoughts about her in their first meeting and gets called a pig. Later on, he calls her "darlin'" a few times. In what world does that constitute a romantic relationship? | ||
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
Blizzard has made it clear that the new Kerrigan =/= Queen Of Blades/Old Kerrigan, they're two different personalities. As far as I'm concerned he did fulfill his revenge in a way when he activated the artifact. I don't see a hole there, there are bunch of others though. | ||
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Vertitto
Poland750 Posts
For those who do not who Duran is | ||
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Vertitto
Poland750 Posts
On March 06 2013 05:04 Andr3 wrote: Why are people saying Jim forgot about his revenge from BW? Blizzard has made it clear that the new Kerrigan =/= Queen Of Blades/Old Kerrigan, they're two different personalities. As far as I'm concerned he did fulfill his revenge in a way when he activated the artifact. I don't see a hole there, there are bunch of others though. WoL is concentrated on a specific view point (Jim's) wheras sc1 - bw were more concentraded one the whole plot ( Overmind aiming to reach perfection, Sons of khoral vs the confederacy, UED vs Mengsk empire, Protoss vs zerg, Protoss Council vs Tassadar, Council vs dark templar, and some more). Anyway there seems to be only 4 characters that cannot be asigned to any of the conflict side - Jim (a vagabond, that cannot find his place), Kerrigan (the swarm bitch that expected to achive something of a great magnitude), Samir Duran (an non-defined traitor that brings multitude of questions) and Zeratul (the seeking one that looks for answers) | ||
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Swords
6038 Posts
On March 06 2013 05:04 Andr3 wrote: Why are people saying Jim forgot about his revenge from BW? Blizzard has made it clear that the new Kerrigan =/= Queen Of Blades/Old Kerrigan, they're two different personalities. As far as I'm concerned he did fulfill his revenge in a way when he activated the artifact. I don't see a hole there, there are bunch of others though. The hole is the entire revenge plot is never mentioned. At the very start of WoL, Raynor is pining over the loss of Kerrigan to the Zerg. He has her photo up on the wall. When she reappears there's no mention of him trying to find her and kill her (and this is before he knows there's a magical deus ex machina artifact that can dezergify people) - a far cry from the vow he makes in Broodwar. A lot of people here view the SC/BW story line through nostalgia tinted glasses - ultimately it's a humans vs. bug aliens story with a "great ancient evil reawakening" story tacked on, but it's characters were at least interesting and the writing felt fresh. WoL is just so poorly written, I hardly cared about any of the characters I loved in the first two games - they were basically different people. | ||
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
I believe Blizzard said time itself was the only factor for that decision, because it doesn't seem realistic that a person would hold a grudge for such a long time.(WoL happens 4 years after BW events anyway) It's also why he starts drinking, nothing better than to drown sorrow in whiskey! But it probably also has to do with the fact that Jim is a rebel, has very little resources to do anything with and he's up against Mengsk. Meanwhile Kerrigan is an allmighty zerg-bitch which he can't do anything against. You are right that a mention of the revenge would be sensible, at least when he's contacted by Valerian and the final missions. And I do agree with you that characters seem to be different. I especially can't get over Kerrigan, mainly because of the new voice. Old one sounded more dominating and "strong", very fitting to the whole queen-of-the-swarm idea. | ||
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TheSwagger
United States92 Posts
On March 06 2013 02:14 FromShouri wrote: You're new around here, its okay, to put it bluntly again NO. If you want to discuss possible endings or what ever the hell you wanted to talk about, do it in other thread, labeled accordingly to your tastes. Don't ever click on "Leaked" titles if you don't want to be spoilered, it really is as simple as that. We've already gone through this with all kinds of tournament results, if you don't want to know who won because you didn't see the game, DON'T COME TO TEAM LIQUID UNTIL YOU WATCHED IT. Same applies here, if you want to "discuss" possible ending for HOTS, go ahead, make your own thread as I stated above, but there is no way in hell you wouldn't expect friggin spoilers in a "LEAKED" thread ffs, get over yourself. Edit-The fact you even came back proves it really isn't that big of a deal if you're willing to read pages upon pages of shit. The reality is that I wont argue the semantics of "new guys" when you joined 2 months before me, regardless of the fact that how "new" a person is is completely irrelevant to what I said. This isnt about the Post-count dick size either, so stop trying to flex nuts. The fact you didnt comprehend what I said is a good indicator that you're just a troll who was looking for an opportunity to try and display some kind of status over another, "new" poster, which is childish and completely unnecessary. This thread should have spoiler tags, this threads title should be edited. And no, I didnt read all of the content, as soon as I posted my suggestion, I only had to reply to you, avoiding almost all of the spoilers. However, the title is misleading if it was clearer, I would have never entered it, along with other members. | ||
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rj rl
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TNK
United States163 Posts
On March 13 2013 03:20 rj rl wrote: So it's confirmed to be real, that sucks balls. At least they removed that lame nonsense bullshit about liberated zergs looking for the answers amongst the stars. But Poochie kerrigan is almost equally bad. | ||
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SiaBBo
Finland133 Posts
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digmouse
China6331 Posts
On March 13 2013 07:56 SiaBBo wrote: I am little confused. The campaign left a lot of questions. Like what was the deal with Dark Voice? And clearly Narud isn't Duran, well because Duran was black. So where is Duran? And what was the deal with the Hybrids anyway? After the missions with them they weren't talked about and they just kinda "were there" having no any reason afterall. Narud/Duran is the servant of a dead rogue Xel'Naga, he can transform to anything he want, the looks does not matter at all. | ||
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Lokian
United States699 Posts
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