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AeroC
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden2 Posts
December 12 2010 21:58 GMT
#441
If the story actually had been good, SC2 would be almost perfect
Clutch8
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States258 Posts
December 12 2010 21:59 GMT
#442
The date on the video is from April of 2009. At Blizzcon 2010 the devs said the zerg are not a "misunderstood" race, but are beasts. This video contradicts what they said in 2010. That is Chris Metzen's voice, so the source material is legit, but I hope that it's just a scrapped idea. If this is the end to Heart of the Swarm I will feel betrayed. Please Blizzard, don't ride the legacy of BW and the cash flow of WoW to be lazy with your stories. We have suffered enough from George Lucas.
Ashera
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada202 Posts
December 12 2010 22:17 GMT
#443
On December 13 2010 06:59 Clutch8 wrote:
The date on the video is from April of 2009. At Blizzcon 2010 the devs said the zerg are not a "misunderstood" race, but are beasts. This video contradicts what they said in 2010. That is Chris Metzen's voice, so the source material is legit, but I hope that it's just a scrapped idea. If this is the end to Heart of the Swarm I will feel betrayed. Please Blizzard, don't ride the legacy of BW and the cash flow of WoW to be lazy with your stories. We have suffered enough from George Lucas.


Agreed, Starcraft was the most amazing storyline, the twisted plot. So amazing. Dont throw away the great storyline, and bring back some real character back.
Viva la Vida
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
December 12 2010 22:48 GMT
#444
I am so disappointed, I don't know what to say.

I feel like they just took a huge dump all over SC1
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dew
Profile Joined March 2010
United States59 Posts
December 13 2010 00:04 GMT
#445
On December 13 2010 02:04 butabara wrote:
What happens in this video?
Kerrigan Dies (SC2 WoL cutscene previs with original superior voice actress):
http://vimeo.com/14564550 - ActiBlizzard nuked

I can't find it anywhere, anyone knows where to find it?

I don't have a link to the video, but I saw it. The video was a rough draft of a cutscene that appeared in Wings of Liberty (same format as the leak) which showed Sarah Kerrigan's last stand when Mengsk abandoned her in SC1.
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
December 13 2010 09:27 GMT
#446
I'm thinking this is a deliberate leak from Blizzard to get people on the wrong scent.

+ Show Spoiler +
Even Blizzard should know that some random 'I win button' (I mean come on...) that magicly subdues Kerrigan just as she appears in his office is a load of bull. Not even talking about the fact that her mental abilities alone could force Mengsk through mind control (Raszagal anyone?) to hang himself upside down by his underwear whilst making him choke on his 'I-win button'.
Raynor coming to her rescue (whatever happened to the Kerrigan that could likely vaporize a building with a single thought?) is too cliché as well.

That Kerrigan got an implant as a Ghost to keep her in check (especially given her abilities) is feasible, but that the implant magicly remained untouched when she got infested and when she removed her ghost conditioning is silly. If she can manipulate/evolve the Zerg she can easily manage to remove an implant from herself.

Kerrigan reinfested has been circling around for a while.
Zeratul's vision made it pretty clear that the Zerg without Kerrigan's control will fall under the Hybrid's control, killing everything. It's possible that in HotS they learn that Kerrigan can only prevent that by reinfestation, but keeping her sanity this time. (if she actually lost it the first time)
Also, the Zerg killed like 70% of the population of Aiur when they had no leader, I highly doubt it'll be much different in HotS.
Possibly the first few missions in HotS will deal with that.

Possible scenario:
First mission: Get deinfested Kerrigan to safety.
Second mission: Mengsk pissed, (some of the) Dominion troops turn/try to kill Kerrigan.
Third mission: Zerg go on a rampage without their leader (insert shock/gasp).
Further missions: Try to figure out why/how/what to do, may include Zeratul.
After that: Only way to prevent Hybrids from taking control is to reinfest Kerrigan.
End mission: Fight off either some Hybrid attempt or a final act from Mengsk with Kerrigan's Zerg.


In any case, it feels too cheesy/obvious to be the real ending of the HotS, but close enough to be done by Blizzard.
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DarthXX
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia998 Posts
December 13 2010 09:32 GMT
#447
Perhaps she can still use her psychic powers to control the zerg without being infested? Is there a reason why she wouldn't be able to do this?
kudlaty_true
Profile Joined November 2009
Poland158 Posts
December 13 2010 10:07 GMT
#448
If anyone haven't seen it yet, here it is.
http://kotaku.com/5709838/ending-leaked-for-starcraft-iis-next-chapter
But how is it Glynnis? It's clearly the blonde actress, forgot her name.
And I want to talk about the cutscene.
When in the timeline is this happening? I'm assuming at the end of HotS. So why the hell Mengsk wouldn't use the "chip" - which I think it's god damn moronic plot in the first place - to stop her before? He HAD plenty of chances. Even if he did "install it" in her body, wouldn't it be removed some way while she was being infested? Wasn't her whole body transformed during the change in chrysalis? Wasn't she a god damn psychic capable of controlling billions of zerg? GOD DAMN BILLIONS? And she missed a major surgery when they implanted her with some kind of control device? Uh... yea......
Another thing. Don't make the zerg a misunderstood race. All of a sudden they are good or something? Out of consuming entire planets and destroying whole armies? Yeah, nice plot turn. Excellent cliffhanger. Haven't seen that before. Don't you people get that 90% of fan base here don't want that to happen? They want evil Kerrigan, plotting and screwing people over. And in the end Raynor killing her for the greater good with ONLY ONE oneliner in the entire campaign. Not cheesy dialogs written all over terran one.
I'm tired, blizzard. I'm tired of your lack of attention to details when it comes to single player. Make something original. Not another hollywood-esque movie with sugar on top.
kudlaty_true
Profile Joined November 2009
Poland158 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-13 10:35:33
December 13 2010 10:22 GMT
#449
On December 13 2010 18:27 Thezzy wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Even Blizzard should know that some random 'I win button' (I mean come on...) that magicly subdues Kerrigan just as she appears in his office is a load of bull.


THANK YOU.

+ Show Spoiler +
Raynor coming to her rescue (whatever happened to the Kerrigan that could likely vaporize a building with a single thought?) is too cliché as well.


THANK YOU!

+ Show Spoiler +
That Kerrigan got an implant as a Ghost to keep her in check (especially given her abilities) is feasible, but that the implant magicly remained untouched when she got infested and when she removed her ghost conditioning is silly. If she can manipulate/evolve the Zerg she can easily manage to remove an implant from herself.


It's not silly - it's moronic.

+ Show Spoiler +
Kerrigan reinfested has been circling around for a while.
Zeratul's vision made it pretty clear that the Zerg without Kerrigan's control will fall under the Hybrid's control, killing everything. It's possible that in HotS they learn that Kerrigan can only prevent that by reinfestation, but keeping her sanity this time. (if she actually lost it the first time)
Also, the Zerg killed like 70% of the population of Aiur when they had no leader, I highly doubt it'll be much different in HotS.
Possibly the first few missions in HotS will deal with that.


Actually when I saw Kerrigan being turned into human again - my first thought was that she planned it all from the start, seeing as she wanted the artifact herself, too. Anyway, I knew she will be infested again, one way or another.

In any case, it feels too cheesy/obvious to be the real ending of the HotS, but close enough to be done by Blizzard.

Exactly that annoys me. Blizz was once major player when it comes to script writing. Now it's mediocrity at it's best. Cheesy one liners on a not so well executed story with one dimentional characters spiced up with darth vader-like evil character.
.... blah.
Billy_
Profile Joined September 2010
461 Posts
December 13 2010 10:38 GMT
#450
Why are people assuming that infested Kerrigan has a head implant? Can't it be explained as some sort of scientific remote connection between barcode kerrigan and infested kerrigan somehow?
Redwave
Profile Joined November 2010
Mexico2 Posts
December 13 2010 14:02 GMT
#451
That ending sucks in a George Lucas' prequels kind of way, you know.. something like: "so lame, so cheesy, so that doesn't make any fucking sense, stop crapping all over the original awesome storyline I watched in my childhood =(".
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nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
December 13 2010 15:36 GMT
#452
She uses a significantly weaker version of Force Wave in that video ( at least 100x weaker than windu taking out 50000 droids in one move )

yet she could pull down capital ships ( 550m+ ) from the sky ( Galen does this to a 1600meter+ ship )
And uh... in the story, she could conjure massive psionic storms similar to palpatine in the books...

couldn't she just destroy the building that mengsk was in without even touching him...?
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Billy_
Profile Joined September 2010
461 Posts
December 13 2010 16:47 GMT
#453
I've seen nothing in the SC games or books which suggest a correlation between gameplay mechanics and established lore before the leak, therefore I see no reason why the leak should be an exception to the rule.

Also that makes kerrigan incredibly OP.
Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
December 13 2010 16:50 GMT
#454
On December 14 2010 00:36 nalgene wrote:
couldn't she just destroy the building that mengsk was in without even touching him...?


SCVs would just repair it, and since multi-player patches don't affect single player the SCVs wouldn't have priority targeting. Kerrigan doesn't have the micro to handle that.
KillerPlague
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1386 Posts
December 13 2010 16:58 GMT
#455
^that's clearly not the case. have you ever tried to repair a planetary fortress in the last mission all in on brutal. the mauls scvs and buildings
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nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
December 13 2010 17:03 GMT
#456
She can do the massive psionic storm one in the books...palpatine does something similar to capital ships in the SW books...

pretty much the same abilities
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DoctorPhil
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands168 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-13 19:38:22
December 13 2010 19:36 GMT
#457
I'm never buying a Blizzard game again, story is too important for me in a video game to just look past this. They fucked SC2 up and if they'll ever make a Warcraft 4 they'll just fuck that story up as well, so I have nothing to look forward to when it comes to Blizzard games.
Somebody organize a Blizzard boycott please.
Slivered Skin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada347 Posts
December 13 2010 20:00 GMT
#458
On December 14 2010 04:36 DoctorPhil wrote:
I'm never buying a Blizzard game again, story is too important for me in a video game to just look past this. They fucked SC2 up and if they'll ever make a Warcraft 4 they'll just fuck that story up as well, so I have nothing to look forward to when it comes to Blizzard games.
Somebody organize a Blizzard boycott please.


What, you don't like the multiplayer aspect of Starcraft at all? Interesting. I wasn't aware there were people like that on TL.

Don't forget Warcraft 3 if you're going to talk about bad stories. And Brood War. And the original vanilla Starcraft. We might look at them with eyes filled with nostalgia, but the stories really weren't that great. Sure, they're a lot worse nowadays, but you can't really argue that they were ever any good.
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DoctorPhil
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands168 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-13 20:53:13
December 13 2010 20:19 GMT
#459
Sure, the multiplayer is great (so is the single player gameplay). My tastes recently changed though, I'm no longer interested in multiplayer that much because it never ends, I'd personally rather use that time to enjoy other different games, rather than the same thing all the time. Of course that's just me (being a part of a very small minority here). A game without a good story but with good gameplay is fun of course, but never memorable.

I thought WC3 had a teriffic story and awesome characters, though I never played the earlyer WCs and thus was never aware of the lore butchery and retcons. I was also very young when I played it so it could've been nostalgia. However I first played Starcraft when I was a lot older, 17, so there's no nostalgia there, yet I still love vanilla Starcraft's story. But truthfully BW wasn't quite as good, if only because of the Zerg turning into Kerrigan's bitch and all the others suffering from acute mental retardation. Firstly, Dugalle killing his childhood friend Alexei just because Duran said he was infested. He doesn't even question this for one second? Why the hell does he trust Duran over Alexei? Also, everyone trusting the potentially evil as fuck Kerrigan.

But anyway, vanilla Starcraft was great, BW and WC3 were passable, SC2 is a joke. (story-wise)
kudlaty_true
Profile Joined November 2009
Poland158 Posts
December 13 2010 21:08 GMT
#460
On December 14 2010 05:19 DoctorPhil wrote:
Sure, the multiplayer is great (so is the single player gameplay). My tastes recently changed though, I'm no longer interested in multiplayer that much because it never ends, I'd personally rather use that time to enjoy other different games, rather than the same thing all the time. Of course that's just me (being a part of a very small minority here). A game without a good story but with good gameplay is fun of course, but never memorable.


Yeah, guys, try to not implement single - multi relation here. You have another topics for that. Multi is great for some, single is great for some. This is clearly subject for praising and/or bashing the single player experience. Can we leave it at that, please?
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