EPTWinter is not the time for a football world cup, despite other obvious reasons.
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gTank
Austria2584 Posts
Winter is not the time for a football world cup, despite other obvious reasons. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6972 Posts
On November 08 2022 15:15 RKC wrote: Some people take the whole December off for a long vacation. But yeah, majority of people just take off during the Christmas-New Year period, and will be slogging off at work or school in the first half of December. So the WC timing is just bad for most people. I know a lot of people, myself included, where the time before X-Mas is the most work heavy time all year. Even if I wanted to watch, I barely have time. And those games I will catch, I will be watching at home and probably nodding off in the first 10mins | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9707 Posts
I think I'll just miss football too much and watch anyway. The teams should at the very least agree to a 1 minute period of silence/no football on the kick off whistle of every match to remember those that lost their lives for our entertainment. I wouldn't go as far as to say that that is respectful, but its very least they could do. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18088 Posts
On November 07 2022 23:53 Liquid`Drone wrote: Yay got the bayern vs psg request 😀 RM vs Liverpool super juicy too. If Napoli plays like they did in the groups, Frankfurt is getting massacred. I wouldn't put them above Ajax in level, and that was a 2x slaughterhouse. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On November 08 2022 05:51 GTR wrote: don't know why they'd want to compete with jeff bezos in buying washington's nfl team - it's a losing cause I read (might be fake news!) that the commanders owner does not want to sell to Bezos at all and would prefer to give it to someone like FSG? On November 08 2022 21:51 Jockmcplop wrote: I'll be watching it but i should boycott it. I think I'll just miss football too much and watch anyway. The teams should at the very least agree to a 1 minute period of silence/no football on the kick off whistle of every match to remember those that lost their lives for our entertainment. I wouldn't go as far as to say that that is respectful, but its very least they could do. Yeah same, its the world cup at the end of the day, what FIFA do every fucking time is disgusting, but the history and the awe of the World Cup is to strong to "boycott" it, no matter where football is played and who profits from it, it is still football, it is still the game we love and the world cup is the pinnacle of football period, nothing beats it. Hopefully someone next time actually steps up and doesn't let this shit happen but i just dont know how, FIFA is just too corrupt and too big, the news coming out today is that FIFA is in bed with the French government!!! The reason Qatar won the bid is because Macron told FIFA to give them the World Cup after selling billions of €'s worth of planes to Qatari government in return! Madness. Blatter: 'The 2022 World Cup was supposed to go to the US. A week before the FIFA-convention Platini called me that he had just spoken with the French president Sarkozy, who told him to vote for Qatar. Six months later Qatar bought fighter jets from France for 14.6 billion dollar.' Articles will be all out in your local countries press etc. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28699 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Also more stuff i read, PSG was owned by a good friend of Sarkozy and the club was leaking money. The day after the WC voting, Qatar bought PSG... | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8716 Posts
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RKC
2848 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18481 Posts
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RKC
2848 Posts
So yeah, the WC curse seems to affect all champions, even the stable top teams. Also, France of 98-02 era had a great generation of players. They won Euro 2000. In fact, the irony is that the WC 2006 team was more dependent on Zidane than the WC 2002 team and yet somehow reached the finals. The fact that Zidane was injured going into WC2002 and got sent off in the WC2006 final are just contributing factors to France's failure that people tend to overstate. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18481 Posts
I dont think Zidane's influence is overstated at all. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
Football is a game between 2 teams of 11 players. At the highest level, definitely taking away one of the top 1-5 players will reduce that team's chances of winning. Spain probably wouldn't have won the WC without one of Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol, and Casillas. Each of them influence the team in their own way. So even a well-clicked team without a standout influential player can still fall in the absence of one out 5 of key players. Was Zidane more important to France than Xavi to Spain? Most likely yes. But the difference is not really that big, I would say. A stronger case would be Argentina being dependent on Maradona or Messi. Or England on Maguire (just kidding!) Anyway, I don't think we are really disagreeing that much. Just tend to easily get carried away with sport debates! | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
On November 09 2022 23:41 sharkie wrote: Oh French 98-02 era definitely was a golden one but they did not click together without Zidane. So they were dependent on his leadership and midfield togetherness and not because France was a one-man team. I dont think Zidane's influence is overstated at all. Arguably the most overrated player of all time | ||
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gTank
Austria2584 Posts
On November 10 2022 03:26 WombaT wrote: Arguably the most overrated player of all time Lol have you seen him play back then? | ||
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Oukka
Finland1683 Posts
On November 10 2022 03:26 WombaT wrote: Arguably the most overrated player of all time And here I thought you were an overall reasonable poster. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
Zidane was excellent of course, he can still be overrated. I love his graceful style as well but I think that clouds over other stuff. Some of the iconic games that people always point to, amazing performances, they also tend to be games most people, even casual people all saw. The WC performances against Brazil, Spain etc. Big games sure, but also the games everyone watched, they stick in the memory that plenty of big, big games he didn’t show up in don’t. Zidane can get away with losing his cool in a WC final, arguably costing his nation the World Cup, and that’s fine, almost romantic for some reason. Contrast with the English burning effigies of Beckham after his petulance vs Simeone in 98. I’m not seeing he’s not a great, just overrated. Quite a few hardcore Juve fans I’ve spoken to over the years still rate him as a player but have a much lesser opinion of him than many neutrals do. Platini probably has a more compelling case as the greatest French 10 | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
The 06 finals definitely tainted his legacy (and my respect for him). I doubt that him staying on pitch and taking one penalty kick would've changed the result. But it just goes to show Zidane isn't really a team player and can be as toxic as, say, Maradona. Zidane has some other bad behaviour incidents in the past, so the sending off just confirms his fallibility in a major way. Anyway, the point is that Zidane has always represented both the 'light side' and 'dark side' of France during that era. Combustible, emotional, full of passion in a both a positive and negative way. He's both an angel and devil, just like his other comrades (eg. Henry's Hand of God that allowed France to defeat Ireland in the WC 02 playoffs was perceived by many as being paid by karma in the end). In the end, I still admire the French national team of that era. I just disagree with the idea that Zidane was some wizard that pulled the whole team together magically. Zidane was very much a product of that French Renaissance. Even as a Zidane fan, I'm disappointed that the other French stars tend to get overlooked and languish in Zidane's shadow. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14023 Posts
Guys this is worse than fyre fest and we can see that its going to happen in advance. They're packing people into metal boxes on top of plastic turf. In the desert, with no shade who knows about water or food. yes it will probably only be high 80's but my brothers and sisters in christ that is so much worse. The humidity just doesn't go away until its well into the 90's. its going to be humid and hot and sunny for two weeks. And people will sleep in metal ovens only to wake up to foot-melting plastic grounds. $200 a night at this place. God only knows what you pay for in tickets food water plane rides transport to and from arenas. | ||
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