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WombaT
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
I mean, it’s extremely unlikely he’ll be close to the same player come the next World Cup He has very few boxes to tick outside of getting that trophy, outside of trading records with Ronaldo. And I mean I’m sure he cares about those records but he doesn’t seem as consumed by them as Ronaldo. I could totally see a likely final World Cup and a final crack at winning the Champions League being a last hurrah for him in top level European football | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8716 Posts
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RKC
2848 Posts
Relatively speaking, of course. Chances of either of them moving there is between 5-10% in next 1-2 years. | ||
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aseq
Netherlands3983 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18481 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28699 Posts
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RKC
2848 Posts
On November 01 2022 22:01 aseq wrote: So little? I see very few other options, especially for Ronaldo. Top clubs that can afford them aren't that interested in parading old legends around...like Man U is learning now. That's why I put the caveat of 1-2 years. There's a good chance that Ronaldo may get a short term lucrative contract in some big European club. After that, chances of going to America, Asia, or Middle-East shoots up to about, say, 60-70%. Messi is an enigma. But I feel he's less motivated on fame and money, and he'll play at whichever club that suits his style and philosophy. Seems like a long shot, but he may even fancy playing in Argentina or Brazil? Like a prodigal son who feels that he has something to prove to his homies. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8716 Posts
assuming he gets to play in a cl club, he will continue to play in europe for his records. going to mls is worthless for him because no one gives a shit about the mls, no offense to stealthblue. if ronaldo wants to stat pad his records he has to do it in europe. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4371 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6972 Posts
On November 02 2022 13:07 RKC wrote: That's why I put the caveat of 1-2 years. There's a good chance that Ronaldo may get a short term lucrative contract in some big European club. After that, chances of going to America, Asia, or Middle-East shoots up to about, say, 60-70%. Messi is an enigma. But I feel he's less motivated on fame and money, and he'll play at whichever club that suits his style and philosophy. Seems like a long shot, but he may even fancy playing in Argentina or Brazil? Like a prodigal son who feels that he has something to prove to his homies. Better MLS than rotting somewhere in China. Messi definitely wants to leave PSG. He has no love for the club or the fans Going back to Barca is unlikely IMO. Just when Barca is moving forward they would be going three steps back with a transfer like this. I say Messi to MLS is at 30% at least I can see CR7 going to a Porto/ Benfica/ Sporting next season. MLS at maybe 5% | ||
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Bacillus
Finland1973 Posts
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RKC
2848 Posts
Messi's whole bearded look seems to reflect his current head space - a jaded and weary war horse. Not surprised if he just decided to retire and go into some self-exile. But yes, I also agree playing with best buddies can play a big factor as well. That's why he's stayed so long in Barca. Between the two, I'm certainly more curious as to Messi's next destination. Honestly don't give a s**t about Ronaldo. Messi is someone I'll still pay to watch even if he's playing in some special senior league. Same as players like Zidane or Zlatan. Ronaldo? Meh... Many other players can do what he does (but he's special because he does it more consistently than others). Messi is a once-in-a-generation player. A true Messiah. | ||
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mAKiTO
Colombia4171 Posts
Sadio Mane was carrying Liverpool not Mohamed Salah. | ||
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mAKiTO
Colombia4171 Posts
On November 02 2022 21:16 Bacillus wrote: It feels like with Messi it could even come down where his buddies are playing when the contract negotiations are going on. I don't know who his top buddies are at the moment, but any MSL team able to lock in some suitable South American attacking talent probably has some shot at negotating with Messi too. Living in Miami could be easier for him and his family. South florida and being rich is super easy to adapt | ||
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sharkie
Austria18481 Posts
On November 03 2022 00:32 mAKiTO wrote: Unpopular opinion: Sadio Mane was carrying Liverpool not Mohamed Salah. I dont think he was carrying them but Klopp and staff totally underestimated his defensive work. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4371 Posts
On November 03 2022 00:36 sharkie wrote: I dont think he was carrying them but Klopp and staff totally underestimated his defensive work. I seriously doubt they underestimated him. Mane's absence is felt more keenly because Diogo Jota is out injured all the time. He was still super important, but Jota can effectively play his role. There isn't anyone else in the Liverpool squad who can duplicate Salah | ||
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Bacillus
Finland1973 Posts
On November 03 2022 01:28 DropBear wrote: I seriously doubt they underestimated him. Mane's absence is felt more keenly because Diogo Jota is out injured all the time. He was still super important, but Jota can effectively play his role. There isn't anyone else in the Liverpool squad who can duplicate Salah As far as I've understood, Fabinho is also slumping badly and that obviously exposes the whole defensive line quite a bit. Players like Elliott are also more attacking minded than Henderson for example, which leaves TAA even more exposed and so on. Combination of multiple players underperforming with an unfortunate timing on the midfield & striker refresh and some injuries and you've got trouble. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28699 Posts
But Benfica in first place with more away goals overall (9 vs 6). Let's go City, RM or Bayern vs PSG first round? xD | ||
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BeaTeR
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
On November 03 2022 18:20 Liquid`Drone wrote: Benfica and PSG with identical points, h2h and goal difference (16-7) But Benfica in first place with more away goals overall (9 vs 6). Let's go City, RM or Bayern vs PSG first round? xD Bayern with 25% probability to get psg ) | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
Unpopular opinion - Salah and Mane are no greater than Kane and Son. Defence, solid midfield core, and Klopp's tactics carried Liverpool. Midfield and defence wins championships. It's very rare that a team's success is down to a single mercurial star (even Maradona, Pele, Messi, and Ronaldo had other world-class teammates to back them up). If given a choice, I would rather have the world no 1 central midfielder rather than the world no 1 striker in my team. A top midfielder can feed 5 great goal-scoring chances on the platter for a mediocre striker to convert 2/5 times per match and restrict the other team's chances to almost nil. A mediocre midfielder can maybe feed 2-3 chances but also lose control of the midfield and allow the other team to have 3-4 more chances in return (the top striker will convert 1-2 chances but the team will still lose the match overall). | ||
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