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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-03 03:00:33
February 03 2022 02:38 GMT
#1701
Game is over and USMNT won 3-0 but this was a very bad decision to play a game in such a place.



"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
February 03 2022 03:41 GMT
#1702
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18707 Posts
February 03 2022 06:50 GMT
#1703
Glasgow, Scotland – Celtic's new Japanese signing Reo Hatate bagged a brace in the Old Firm derby on Wednesday, taking center stage in a 3-0 win over Rangers in the Scottish Premiership.


https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2022/02/03/soccer/hatate-brace-old-firm/

Japanse nobody just arrives and takes Celtic to lead in the table over Rangers
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28869 Posts
February 03 2022 08:20 GMT
#1704
On February 03 2022 11:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Game is over and USMNT won 3-0 but this was a very bad decision to play a game in such a place.

https://twitter.com/jennyachiu/status/1489064813821140994

https://twitter.com/GrantWahl/status/1489068660815716354


lol wtf they played in Minnesota in the beginning of February?

There's a reason why the Norwegian and Swedish leagues are paused during the winter..
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2072 Posts
February 03 2022 11:33 GMT
#1705
On February 03 2022 17:20 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2022 11:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Game is over and USMNT won 3-0 but this was a very bad decision to play a game in such a place.

https://twitter.com/jennyachiu/status/1489064813821140994

https://twitter.com/GrantWahl/status/1489068660815716354


lol wtf they played in Minnesota in the beginning of February?

There's a reason why the Norwegian and Swedish leagues are paused during the winter..

I think the Finnish HJK played their Europa League games indoors on some kind of turf. Far from ideal, but better than playing outdoors. And that was still group stage, so nowhere close to mid-winter.
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
February 03 2022 12:30 GMT
#1706
Decision to play there, at this time of the year was...questionable.
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 03 2022 13:43 GMT
#1707
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14159 Posts
February 03 2022 21:34 GMT
#1708
The grass was heated, the vikings supplied stuff to keep the benches and players war, the stadium is built so that there is no heavy wind.

But yeah this was stupid. I was there I took my shirt off, but there's a very good reason why they don't do CONCACAF in the north American winter or MLS in the winter.

This was a combination of years of oppressive midday central American games, Qatar and covid forcing a short qualifying window. And no one objecting to Canada pulling the exact same shit in worse conditions.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
February 03 2022 21:41 GMT
#1709
I thought the US scheduling world cup qualifiers against central american teams in cold places and cities with as low hispanic population as possible has been common practice for decades by now? Though admittedly this is a little more extreme than usual.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 03 2022 22:07 GMT
#1710
Lol that was shocking penalties from Cameroon as Egypt go onto the final vs Senegal!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4415 Posts
February 04 2022 06:19 GMT
#1711
Salah v Mane for two of the most important games of their lives. AFCON final and last World Cup qualifying spot.

The final boss for each other
Sucker for nostalgia
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51651 Posts
February 04 2022 22:54 GMT
#1712
we're shit and we're proud of it.
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Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
February 04 2022 23:17 GMT
#1713
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-05 01:58:14
February 05 2022 01:55 GMT
#1714
It helps VAR "missed" this?

https://imgur.com/a/GUo2uMO
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8912 Posts
February 05 2022 02:04 GMT
#1715
how is that goal given even with var? what a fucking joke
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4570 Posts
February 05 2022 05:45 GMT
#1716
On February 05 2022 10:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
It helps VAR "missed" this?

https://imgur.com/a/GUo2uMO


VAR didn't miss it

Following a revision of the interpretation of the rule by IFAB during the summer, accidental handball is only penalised if the player in question then scores a goal.

So, although the ball clearly hit Watmore's hand before he lobbed the decisive pass to Crooks, referee Anthony Taylor deemed it to be accidental, as the ball had flicked up off the Middlesbrough man's body. This was subsequently checked by VAR Stuart Attwell, who endorsed Taylor's view.


https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/60266339



The result stings though given that it was almost a full strength Utd side
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8912 Posts
February 05 2022 05:56 GMT
#1717
the literal interpretation of "accidental handball" is stupid. 99% handball arent intentional so by that logic every handball should be given a free pass. if you use this interpretation the only handballs youre penalising have to be to the degree of suarez's 2010 world cup handball.

watmore made a poor first touch and he benefited from the handball with a completely outstretched arm by bringing the ball back into his control for an immediate assist. if thats not gonna be called handball nothing should be called handball.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
February 05 2022 06:06 GMT
#1718
Oh yeah, lets have the annual "what is intentional" discussion, even though that part is nearly unchanged since forever... And yes, all those jumping jack cross-blocking defenders are considered intentional.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4367 Posts
February 05 2022 09:03 GMT
#1719
On February 05 2022 15:06 mahrgell wrote:
Oh yeah, lets have the annual "what is intentional" discussion, even though that part is nearly unchanged since forever... And yes, all those jumping jack cross-blocking defenders are considered intentional.


while i agree with the sentiment, the rest of your quote is wrong. the handball recommendations for interpretation have changed several times over the last couple of years, heck the one currently in place is like 1yo. it might seem similar to a 7 yo rule, but several changes were made in between.

as an example, 3 or 4 years ago the recommended analysis was in relation to the player's volume (there is a specific term but i cant recall how to say it in EN) increasing or not due to arm position. cant recall if before or after that, it was every contact that had an impact on the outcome of the play. now there is space for the intentional or not interpretation, which is something that was not on the previous one.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
February 05 2022 12:05 GMT
#1720
On February 05 2022 18:03 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2022 15:06 mahrgell wrote:
Oh yeah, lets have the annual "what is intentional" discussion, even though that part is nearly unchanged since forever... And yes, all those jumping jack cross-blocking defenders are considered intentional.


while i agree with the sentiment, the rest of your quote is wrong. the handball recommendations for interpretation have changed several times over the last couple of years, heck the one currently in place is like 1yo. it might seem similar to a 7 yo rule, but several changes were made in between.

as an example, 3 or 4 years ago the recommended analysis was in relation to the player's volume (there is a specific term but i cant recall how to say it in EN) increasing or not due to arm position. cant recall if before or after that, it was every contact that had an impact on the outcome of the play. now there is space for the intentional or not interpretation, which is something that was not on the previous one.


I'm aware of those changes, but they do really not concern that 90% of handballs, where the interpretation of intentional (what you said about body surface) remained pretty much the same.
Those changes were to my knowledge mostly aimed at header duels, where the ball dropped down and since jumping with arms completely tied to your body is nearly impossible always led to the craziest kinds of penalties. When it comes to blocking crosses, which is the majority of pens, not much has changed, except in some odd cases of players getting annihilated from 1m distance.

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