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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55573 Posts
January 07 2022 17:57 GMT
#1561
That will free up money so that Barca can register Ferran Torres with La Liga without exceeding the salary cap
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26793 Posts
January 07 2022 19:12 GMT
#1562
Nice, I really want to see Coutinho do well. Aside perhaps from players who are massive, massive pricks I never like to see talent rotting through inertia or misuse.

Not sure how Villa plan to fit him in, but Gerard must have a good idea, and has first hand experience of what his strengths and weaknesses are.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
January 08 2022 00:36 GMT
#1563
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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3999 Posts
January 08 2022 03:15 GMT
#1564
Wait, you are one? And what's your link to Denmark? I agree reading this it's tough to say what's the best course of action...whether levels of oestrogen are a good measure, I don't know. On the other hand, images of trans weight lifters come to mind, that have switched over less than a year ago and are picking up all the medals.

But especially at the amateur level, it feels wrong to exclude people, completely, from all leagues. How would you say you compare strength and speed wise to cis women with the same amount of experience (over the years)? There should be a place for everyone to play.

Wesso
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1245 Posts
January 08 2022 08:57 GMT
#1565
On January 08 2022 09:36 plasmidghost wrote:
Danish FA banned trans women from playing on women's teams. It doesn't matter that estrogen eviscerates our muscle mass and that we have to keep our testosterone far lower than cis women, negating every supposed "advantage" we have. I see thousands of upvotes for comments saying how awful we are for wanting to just play sports, so now trans women can't compete anywhere.

It really hurts knowing that I'm not wanted in football.


That sucks, the estrogen/testosterone thing is not common knowledge at all (which is a large part of the problem) but you would expect official sports commissions to be informed enough to at least mention why they didn't think that argument was convincing enough.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26793 Posts
January 08 2022 16:27 GMT
#1566
On January 08 2022 09:36 plasmidghost wrote:
Danish FA banned trans women from playing on women's teams. It doesn't matter that estrogen eviscerates our muscle mass and that we have to keep our testosterone far lower than cis women, negating every supposed "advantage" we have. I see thousands of upvotes for comments saying how awful we are for wanting to just play sports, so now trans women can't compete anywhere.

It really hurts knowing that I'm not wanted in football.

That’s surprising, is this in general or in the professional women’s game? Googled but couldn’t find this story.

I’d hope that amateur teams, college teams or whatever could themselves be inclusive off their own bat.

The frustrating part about this issue, is so much of the opprobrium comes from people who do not give a solitary shit about women’s sport. They’ll actively mock the woman’s game at every chance they get, until a trans person is involved, then immediately the integrity of the women’s game is sacred.

I’m unsure of the timeframe, it does seem, from what I’ve read to be the case that over time any initial advantage is eroded for the reasons that you’re stating. I’m unsure if say, I started transitioning tomorrow how long it would be until I wasn’t considerably stronger than the average 31 year old woman, but eventually that would happen. Unsure of the specifics, but I understand the concepts. Having denser bones, which are a bit more resilient than muscle to oestrogen wastage as far as I understand, isn’t exactly an advantage in sport in the way muscle density is.

I could see a case for a person living as a woman but not having started physical transitioning not playing in a women’s side, but I don’t see the safety/competitive balance argument really applying for someone suppressing their testosterone to levels beneath not just men but cis women
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4402 Posts
January 09 2022 03:06 GMT
#1567
Newcastle got knocked out of the FA Cup by third tier Cambridge in Trippier's first game for the club lel
Sucker for nostalgia
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 09 2022 13:28 GMT
#1568
On January 09 2022 01:27 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2022 09:36 plasmidghost wrote:
Danish FA banned trans women from playing on women's teams. It doesn't matter that estrogen eviscerates our muscle mass and that we have to keep our testosterone far lower than cis women, negating every supposed "advantage" we have. I see thousands of upvotes for comments saying how awful we are for wanting to just play sports, so now trans women can't compete anywhere.

It really hurts knowing that I'm not wanted in football.

That’s surprising, is this in general or in the professional women’s game? Googled but couldn’t find this story.

I’d hope that amateur teams, college teams or whatever could themselves be inclusive off their own bat.

The frustrating part about this issue, is so much of the opprobrium comes from people who do not give a solitary shit about women’s sport. They’ll actively mock the woman’s game at every chance they get, until a trans person is involved, then immediately the integrity of the women’s game is sacred.

I’m unsure of the timeframe, it does seem, from what I’ve read to be the case that over time any initial advantage is eroded for the reasons that you’re stating. I’m unsure if say, I started transitioning tomorrow how long it would be until I wasn’t considerably stronger than the average 31 year old woman, but eventually that would happen. Unsure of the specifics, but I understand the concepts. Having denser bones, which are a bit more resilient than muscle to oestrogen wastage as far as I understand, isn’t exactly an advantage in sport in the way muscle density is.

I could see a case for a person living as a woman but not having started physical transitioning not playing in a women’s side, but I don’t see the safety/competitive balance argument really applying for someone suppressing their testosterone to levels beneath not just men but cis women

It's not as easy as that, unless the transition begun during the puberty then the testosteron already did it's part and there's an advantage. Case in point some women sports (even college levels) being dominated by transgender people.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9847 Posts
January 09 2022 15:10 GMT
#1569


Norwich fans react to their team not scoring for a month....
RIP Meatloaf <3
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
January 09 2022 17:39 GMT
#1570
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9847 Posts
January 09 2022 17:51 GMT
#1571
Forest holding their own against Arsenal so far...
RIP Meatloaf <3
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
January 09 2022 18:33 GMT
#1572
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9847 Posts
January 09 2022 18:40 GMT
#1573
On January 10 2022 03:33 plasmidghost wrote:
What the fuck is wrong with us today? No shots on target against Forest while fielding a strong team

You've put your most dangerous player (Martinelli) against one of the best performing wing backs in the Championship (Spence) and tried to funnel everything down that side of the pitch but its not working.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9847 Posts
January 09 2022 18:51 GMT
#1574
Get in!!!!
RIP Meatloaf <3
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
January 09 2022 19:03 GMT
#1575
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 09 2022 19:46 GMT
#1576
Kidderminister Harriers a local club near me has been rewarded with a home tie vs West Ham! They play in tier 6 of professional football!
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9847 Posts
January 09 2022 20:05 GMT
#1577
On January 10 2022 04:46 Pandemona wrote:
Kidderminister Harriers a local club near me has been rewarded with a home tie vs West Ham! They play in tier 6 of professional football!

I've been to Harriers' ground a few times when I was younger. I used to kick around with Nuneaton Borough back in the day and was their mascot a few times. I think they played Kidderminster a number of times back then in the 90s.
From what I remember their ground was little more than a garden shed and a field at the time lol.
RIP Meatloaf <3
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
January 09 2022 21:37 GMT
#1578
Arsenal is nothing without Tomiyasu playing
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4402 Posts
January 10 2022 04:12 GMT
#1579
Lorenzo Insigne has signed a pre-contract agreement with Toronto FC.
Toronto FC announced today that Italian international winger Lorenzo Insigne has signed a pre-contract to join the club on a four-year deal to begin on July 1, 2022. He will be added to the roster as a Designated Player pending receipt of his International Transfer Certificate (ITC).

“This is a historic and exciting day for our club,” said Toronto FC President Bill Manning. “Lorenzo is a world class attacking player in the prime of his career. He was a European champion with Italy and has performed on the biggest stages during his club career with Napoli. Lorenzo has the talent to change games. He plays the game with joy and passion, and our fans and supporters are going to love watching him as a member of our team.”



Totonto FC press release

Different sources are citing different salaries but all are claiming he will be the highest paid player in MLS history.
Sucker for nostalgia
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 10 2022 15:19 GMT
#1580


[Endika Río] Raúl García (Athletic Bilbao): “For me, playing the Spanish Super Cup in Saudi Arabia doesn’t make sense. It’s a Spanish trophy that we play in a foreign country. Football changes and we no longer think about supporters. Now it is important to generate [money] and we forget the basics."
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