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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
April 06 2015 20:15 GMT
#1
Major League Baseball 2015 thread.

Al East:
Toronto Blue Jays
Baltimore Orioles
New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
Tampa Bay Rays
Notable Changes: Blue Jays add Josh Donaldson from athletics and may be favorites to take the division.

AL Central:
Detroit Tigers
Cleveland Indians
Chicago White Sox
Kansas City Royals
Minnesota Twins
Notable Changes: Tigers add David Price and look to take the division, Twins have a ton of young talent including top overall prospect Byron Buxton and may look to call up some of their young players as the year goes on.

Al West:
Los Angeles Angels
Seattle Mariners
Houston Astros
Texas Rangers
Oakland Athletics
Notable Changes: Rangers look to rebound after terrrible 2014, Athletics overhaul their roster and Angels will probably win this division easily.

Nl East:
Atlants Braves
Washington Nationals
Philadelphia Phillies
New York Mets
Miami Marlins
Notable Changes: This is the Nationals and Marlins division now. Braves overhauled their roster, Phillies will probably be the worst team in MLB (sob) and the mets are still probably a year away from contending.

Nl Central:
St. Louis Cardinals
Chicago Cubs
Milwaukee Brewers
Cincinatti Reds
Pittsburgh Pirates
Notable Changes: Cubs are most intruiging team in MLB. Army of young prospects including Kris Bryant, Javier Baez, and Jorge Soler will look to join Anthony Rizzo and Starlin Castro and take this team out of irrelevance.

Nl West:
Arizone Diamondbacks
Colorado Rockies
San Diego Padres
Los Angeles Dodgers
San Francisco Giants
Notable changes: Padres redo entire outfeild and will look to compete with the Dodgers for the division. Rockies must stay healthy but have the talent to compete deep into the playoffs.
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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-22 02:12:32
April 06 2015 20:15 GMT
#2
NOTABLE TRADES and CALLUPS

4/5 Padres acquire closer Craig Kimbrel and outfeilder Melvin (formerly BJ) Upton for Carlos Quentin and Cameron Maybin + prospects.

4/17 cubs call up Kris Bryant, prized 3rd base prospect who has the potential to hit 40 home runs a year.
4/20 cubs call up Addison Russel, another prized prospect. Russel is a shortstop by trade but will play 2nd base with the cubs for the time being, he is regarded as probably the best shortstop prospect in the game, maybe beind the astros Carlos Correria. He will hit for great power at the position and play stellar defense. Cubs getting exciting and scary, I wish I was a fan.
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
April 07 2015 00:05 GMT
#3
I think the Mariners have some very serious things to say about your comments on the AL West.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
April 07 2015 00:41 GMT
#4
On April 07 2015 09:05 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I think the Mariners have some very serious things to say about your comments on the AL West.

yeah theyll be in the mix too im sure I kinda forgot about all their moves
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slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
April 09 2015 03:44 GMT
#5
On April 07 2015 05:15 Aveng3r wrote:
NOTABLE TRADES and CALLUPS

4/5 Padres acquire closer Craig Kimbrel and outfeilder Melvin (formerly BJ) Upton for Carlos Quentin and Cameron Maybin + prospects.


God, remember when Cameron Maybin was a stud prospect in the Tigers' system? Remember when BJ Upton was an exciting player in Tampa? God, remember when Carlos Quentin could bop like crazy on Detroit?

God, I'm so old.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
April 09 2015 17:13 GMT
#6
On April 09 2015 12:44 slyboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2015 05:15 Aveng3r wrote:
NOTABLE TRADES and CALLUPS

4/5 Padres acquire closer Craig Kimbrel and outfeilder Melvin (formerly BJ) Upton for Carlos Quentin and Cameron Maybin + prospects.


God, remember when Cameron Maybin was a stud prospect in the Tigers' system? Remember when BJ Upton was an exciting player in Tampa? God, remember when Carlos Quentin could bop like crazy on Detroit?

God, I'm so old.

Maybin still might break out!!
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 09 2015 17:41 GMT
#7
well yankees look pretty dead already. i'm primarily following the development of jose abreu
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
April 13 2015 21:18 GMT
#8
On April 09 2015 12:44 slyboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2015 05:15 Aveng3r wrote:
NOTABLE TRADES and CALLUPS

4/5 Padres acquire closer Craig Kimbrel and outfeilder Melvin (formerly BJ) Upton for Carlos Quentin and Cameron Maybin + prospects.


God, remember when Cameron Maybin was a stud prospect in the Tigers' system? Remember when BJ Upton was an exciting player in Tampa? God, remember when Carlos Quentin could bop like crazy on Detroit?

God, I'm so old.


do u remember this?

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
April 17 2015 22:15 GMT
#9
Goldchmidt early candidate for mvp, and boy is he making my fantasy team look good
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-20 14:39:02
April 20 2015 14:31 GMT
#10
On April 07 2015 05:15 Aveng3r wrote:
Major League Baseball 2015 thread.

Al East:
Toronto Blue Jays
Baltimore Orioles
New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
Tampa Bay Rays
Notable Changes: Blue Jays add Josh Donaldson from athletics and may be favorites to take the division.


the blue jays are not going to win the American League East this year.
Alex Anthopoulos does not have the background as a scout and talent evaluator to make very smart and risky moves as GM.
All he can do is make consensus type moves.

Anthopoulos is an average GM. so expect average results on the field.

Toronto should bring back Pat Gillick from Philadelphia if they want to get serious.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
April 22 2015 02:14 GMT
#11
On April 20 2015 23:31 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2015 05:15 Aveng3r wrote:
Major League Baseball 2015 thread.

Al East:
Toronto Blue Jays
Baltimore Orioles
New York Yankees
Boston Red Sox
Tampa Bay Rays
Notable Changes: Blue Jays add Josh Donaldson from athletics and may be favorites to take the division.


the blue jays are not going to win the American League East this year.
Alex Anthopoulos does not have the background as a scout and talent evaluator to make very smart and risky moves as GM.
All he can do is make consensus type moves.

Anthopoulos is an average GM. so expect average results on the field.

Toronto should bring back Pat Gillick from Philadelphia if they want to get serious.

NO YOU CANT HAVE HIM. WE NEED HIM.

How about the cubs right now? man, I wish I was a cubs fan. They are gonna have the scariest infeild in the game for quite a while pretty soon, and soler is no slouch in the outfeild. Of course I missed picking up russell in my fantasy league.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 22 2015 16:01 GMT
#12


this is the most hilarious delivery i've ever seen and it should be illegal sooner or later. guy's getting a good 2 feet of extension from this hop.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
April 22 2015 16:13 GMT
#13
It's already been declared illegal iirc
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
April 22 2015 23:57 GMT
#14
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/22/barry-bonds-obstruction-of-justice-conviction-revered-by-the-9th-circuit-court-of-appeals/

The GOAT is free.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
April 27 2015 03:13 GMT
#15
if ur foot is not on the pitching rubber when you release the pitch it is a balk.

the pitch is a ball and baserunners advance 1 base.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
April 28 2015 22:01 GMT
#16
Kirk Gibson.. teh hero of the video i posted here.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/482317-major-league-baseball-2015#8

has Parkinson's Disease.

damn
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 23:33:14
April 28 2015 23:31 GMT
#17
First Major League Baseball game played in front of no fans in the 145 history of the league(s).

http://www.thestar.com/sports/baseball/2015/04/28/baltimore-orioles-to-play-wednesday-against-white-sox-in-empty-camden-yards.html
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-30 03:11:54
April 30 2015 03:09 GMT
#18
You know something is insane if it hasn't happened yet in baseball. Seems like everything, no matter how unlikely or odd, has happened before in the game.
Spiller
Profile Joined September 2014
United States106 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-30 04:11:23
April 30 2015 04:04 GMT
#19
On April 27 2015 12:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
if ur foot is not on the pitching rubber when you release the pitch it is a balk.

the pitch is a ball and baserunners advance 1 base.


You are misinformed.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/carter-capps-jordan-walden-and-legal-deliveries/

From the article linked above:

In MLB’s official rules on the “legal pitching delivery”, the phrase “disengaging the rubber” is used, but only in regards to what a pitcher can and cannot do with regards to pickoffs. For instance, it specifies that a pitcher must drop his hands if he disengages the rubber — in order to show that he’s no longer preparing to throw a pitch — but there isn’t any wording in there that says you cannot disengage the rubber during your natural throwing motion.

The fact that Walden has been doing this for years without punishment set a precedent that it was legal, and Capps even got assurance from MLB that his delivery is indeed allowable.

Marlins reliever Carter Capps received some clarification from Major League Baseball regarding his unorthodox delivery, where he takes a small hop off the rubber. Basically, it was pointed out to the reliever to not elevate so high.



Capps’ mechanics came into question last Thursday, when he was pitching in the ninth inning for Triple-A New Orleans. Each of Capps’ first two pitches against Omaha were called illegal pitches, resulting in automatic balls.

Rather than have Capps change his delivery, which could lead to injury, he was instructed to intentionally walk the batter. After the four pitches, Capps was replaced.

The next day, the Marlins contacted Major League Baseball seeking clarification on what Capps, who has 88 games of big league experience, was doing wrong.

“They just said they wanted me to make sure I dragged my foot and not get too elevated in the air, and make sure it’s more on a lateral plane,” Capps said. “As long as I do that, they have no problem with it. But it was very strange.”

…

“It doesn’t look pretty, obviously,” Capps said. “But that’s the first time anybody had a blatant problem with it. They didn’t want me to get too much elevation. They understand I’m going to come off the rubber, but they wanted me to drag my toe a little bit more. I’m going to try to do that.”

So, according to Capps, jumping forward is okay, but jumping up is not. The league clearly knows their rulebook a lot better than I do, though I will admit that I was unable to find anything in the rules that would be the basis for that conclusion. That doesn’t mean it isn’t in there. Perhaps there is an addendum to the delivery rule that simply didn’t make its way online. This isn’t an area where I’m going to claim to have any kind of insight, because I’m not a rules junkie, and I’ve never umpired. If MLB says it is legal, then it’s legal.




TL:DR: There is nothing in the rulebook about leaving the rubber during a pitch. The Marlins asked for clarification from MLB and they said as long as he doesn't elevate while doing the "jump" then it is legal.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-30 04:10:38
April 30 2015 04:08 GMT
#20
This was caused by teh "baltimore riots"...

well,
There was once a RIOT at an MLB game in Chicago at CHomiskey Park.
It occurred during the break between games of a double header.

The Riot caused the cancellation of the 2nd game of the double header. The Riot was brutal.
There was giant fire in center field.

The Cause of the Riot? A very important and crucial social issue.

The Destruction of Disco Music.



Take That John Travolta.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-30 04:57:22
April 30 2015 04:40 GMT
#21
On April 30 2015 13:04 Spiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 12:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
if ur foot is not on the pitching rubber when you release the pitch it is a balk.

the pitch is a ball and baserunners advance 1 base.


You are misinformed.


here is my source.

according to MLB rules.

, "An ILLEGAL PITCH is (1) a pitch delivered to the batter when the pitcher does not have his pivot foot in contact with the pitcher’s plate; (2) a quick return pitch. An illegal pitch when runners are on base is a balk."

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloads/y2013/official_baseball_rules.pdf

On April 30 2015 13:04 Spiller wrote:
TL:DR: There is nothing in the rulebook about leaving the rubber during a pitch. The Marlins asked for clarification from MLB and they said as long as he doesn't elevate while doing the "jump" then it is legal.

the rulebook in this area is self contradictory. which is why he got away with this for so long. and why MLB waffled so badly.

dealing directly with this:
he'll have to "push off" directly from the rubber.

until recently , he pushes off from the rubber, lands, and then pushes off again from a spot about 10 inches in front of the rubber if MLB lets him do this , next we'll have guys doing 4 leaps forwards and throwing the ball from 50 feet away.

in general what MLB will begin to do is also apply this rule with runners on base.
"8.05(g) The pitcher makes any motion naturally associated with his pitch while he is not touching the pitcher’s plate;"

to prevent this guy's illegal delivery.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 30 2015 11:33 GMT
#22
lots of pitchers' pivot foot is off the rubber when the pitch is out of the guy's hand. lincecum comes to mind. and umps let those slide. but what this guy did was really distinctly a second push off.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-30 17:37:00
April 30 2015 17:06 GMT
#23
On April 30 2015 20:33 oneofthem wrote:
lots of pitchers' pivot foot is off the rubber when the pitch is out of the guy's hand. lincecum comes to mind. and umps let those slide. but what this guy did was really distinctly a second push off.


MLB Umpires let both pitchers and hitters stretch many of the existing rules. but, the rule is still there.

another example is "The batter's legal position shall be with both feet within the batter's box."
a lot of hitters back foot are not in the batters box.

so we've got pitchers releasing from a few inches off the rubber and hitters a few inches behind the batter's box.

oh the irony.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
May 19 2015 02:22 GMT
#24
Anyone have a clue what's happening in Miami? It's just weird. Is Loria crazier than we even realized?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
May 20 2015 22:33 GMT
#25
I don't know but they aren't hitting and it's annoying me, ozuna and yelich are not helping my fantasy cause
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Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
May 26 2015 04:33 GMT
#26
I'm probably gonna continue to be disappointed as a Rockies fan, but the Arenado highlight reel almost makes it worth it.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13816 Posts
May 26 2015 05:58 GMT
#27
How about those twins.
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 26 2015 06:28 GMT
#28
Robinson Cano currently has the lowest WAR of all second basemen in the American League. Below even J.D. Drew. That 10-year contract feelin pretty heavy right now.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 07:03:46
May 26 2015 07:00 GMT
#29
On May 19 2015 11:22 AgentW wrote:
Anyone have a clue what's happening in Miami? It's just weird. Is Loria crazier than we even realized?


The Marlins organized a giant charity event .. they then advertised it.. then zero players showed up.
Some people have a theory that boycotting the charity event is a protest against the unusual selection of manager by the team.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2015/05/23/marlins-players-fail-to-show-up-to-meet-and-greet-fans-who-paid-100-to-attend/

Notice that the guy who got the 8 game suspension was inspected by umpires at the behest of the Marlins new manager.


Based on the giant Blue Jay trade and how Loria wiggled his way out of Montreal I'd say Loria is "crazy like a fox".
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
May 26 2015 07:02 GMT
#30
On May 26 2015 15:28 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Robinson Cano currently has the lowest WAR of all second basemen in the American League. Below even J.D. Drew. That 10-year contract feelin pretty heavy right now.


His power has totally dried up, it's weird. It's not like he's less patient, or chasing pitches, he just can't drive contact.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 07:22:10
May 26 2015 07:05 GMT
#31
On May 26 2015 16:02 slyboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 15:28 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Robinson Cano currently has the lowest WAR of all second basemen in the American League. Below even J.D. Drew. That 10-year contract feelin pretty heavy right now.


His power has totally dried up, it's weird. It's not like he's less patient, or chasing pitches, he just can't drive contact.


The cure for that came into widespread use in MLB in the 1980s. Steroids.

There are a bazillion hitters in MLB history whose production at 32 is substantially lower than their production at the mean peak age for hitters which is 27.5
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2011/5/31/2199146/hitter-aging-curves

With so many players on steroids people are now accustomed to players with Bonds-style production in their 30s.

The big problem here is that with a 10 year giant guaranteed contract there is no motive for Cano to use steroids.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 26 2015 08:15 GMT
#32
Eh, I talk shit, but Cano is a professional. He'll break out of the slump, he just needs to find his batspeed again. The mariners don't need a power hitter from him, they just need a singles-doubles kind of guy (and hes really high on the doubles list this year). I think he'll be alright. And the Mariners themselves are really starting to turn themselves around.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
May 28 2015 01:21 GMT
#33
On May 26 2015 15:28 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Robinson Cano currently has the lowest WAR of all second basemen in the American League. Below even J.D. Drew. That 10-year contract feelin pretty heavy right now.

He's so bad, you're comparing him to J.D. Drew's less talented younger brother, Stephen Drew, without knowing it!
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 28 2015 01:26 GMT
#34
On May 28 2015 10:21 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 15:28 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Robinson Cano currently has the lowest WAR of all second basemen in the American League. Below even J.D. Drew. That 10-year contract feelin pretty heavy right now.

He's so bad, you're comparing him to J.D. Drew's less talented younger brother, Stephen Drew, without knowing it!

You're not wrong.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
May 28 2015 02:53 GMT
#35
Interesting that the Mets go with a 6 man rotation now, no? I say they're trying to prevent their young arms from more Tommy John episodes a la Harvey and wheeler
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
May 28 2015 03:05 GMT
#36
Yeah but it will be back to 5 sooner rather than later. One of those guys is gonna get hurt, they're SPs after all.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
June 02 2015 13:58 GMT
#37
On May 28 2015 11:53 Aveng3r wrote:
Interesting that the Mets go with a 6 man rotation now, no? I say they're trying to prevent their young arms from more Tommy John episodes a la Harvey and wheeler


In Japan, starters pitch 1 time per week.
should we be surprised that Yu Darvis had tommy john surgery.

Too Many Miracles....



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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
June 05 2015 00:17 GMT
#38
They gotta update the posey rule, Phillies just got robbed by the rulebook
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
June 05 2015 00:28 GMT
#39
No clue if that's the right call, but it's pretty stupid.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
June 05 2015 05:06 GMT
#40
Lighting a candle in remembrance for the Mariners 2015 season. We had high hopes.
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Last Edited: 2015-06-05 05:17:46
June 05 2015 05:16 GMT
#41
On June 05 2015 09:17 Aveng3r wrote:
They gotta update the posey rule, Phillies just got robbed by the rulebook


aren't the Phillies in the middle of the heavy lifting stage of a long rebuild?
doesn't this make their record this year relatively unimportant if you're a phillies fan?

that said, the posey rule is pure stupidity. the blue jays #1 play-by-play commentator guy, Buck Martinez, had his career basically ended in a home plate collision. Even he is against the rule.
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
June 05 2015 09:51 GMT
#42
On June 05 2015 14:06 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Lighting a candle in remembrance for the Mariners 2015 season. We had high hopes.

A reminder why you don't get hyped over a DH. Looking at you, Detroit.
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
June 05 2015 16:16 GMT
#43
On June 05 2015 18:51 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 14:06 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Lighting a candle in remembrance for the Mariners 2015 season. We had high hopes.

A reminder why you don't get hyped over a DH. Looking at you, Detroit.

Nelson Cruz hype far understated his current impact on the team. It's not even remotely his fault this season is happening the way it is.
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
June 06 2015 03:41 GMT
#44
http://m.mlb.com/video/v146366183/oakbos-switchpitcher-venditte-makes-his-mlb-debut

Pat Venditte, first switch-pitcher in the majors since 1995.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
June 06 2015 04:30 GMT
#45
yea he was in the yankees system for years and never got a shot to the show
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Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
June 06 2015 06:45 GMT
#46
On June 05 2015 14:16 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 09:17 Aveng3r wrote:
They gotta update the posey rule, Phillies just got robbed by the rulebook


aren't the Phillies in the middle of the heavy lifting stage of a long rebuild?
doesn't this make their record this year relatively unimportant if you're a phillies fan?

that said, the posey rule is pure stupidity. the blue jays #1 play-by-play commentator guy, Buck Martinez, had his career basically ended in a home plate collision. Even he is against the rule.

Yes they are, I am actively rooting for them to lose every day so that maybe we can snag the next Bryce harper

That said, I still don't like it when dipshit rules calls screw their young guys out of production
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
June 06 2015 13:08 GMT
#47
On June 06 2015 01:16 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 18:51 AgentW wrote:
On June 05 2015 14:06 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Lighting a candle in remembrance for the Mariners 2015 season. We had high hopes.

A reminder why you don't get hyped over a DH. Looking at you, Detroit.

Nelson Cruz hype far understated his current impact on the team. It's not even remotely his fault this season is happening the way it is.

I wasn't implying it was Cruz's fault at all; he's been one of the best hitters in the AL this year. I was merely pointing out that DH's have a limited impact on the game and whenever anyone signs one people get hyped through the roof that their team will be significantly better. On a similar note, fans and media do this will outfielders who can hit and can't play a lick of defense (San Diego).

Every year people lose their minds thinking the upstart teams who make splash moves in the winter will win divisions and go to the World Series, but it's always teams like St. Louis and Detroit. Nobody likes rooting for the Death Star, but the Death Star usually wins.
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Last Edited: 2015-06-06 14:53:54
June 06 2015 14:44 GMT
#48
when u go to a baseball game.. keep ur eyes on the play, unless of course u're sitting in the bleachers.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/baseball/2015/06/05/fan-critically-injured-at-fenway-at-red-sox-athletics-game.html

i've seen a couple of women take some awful smacks from hockey pucks at games when they weren't watching the play

On June 06 2015 15:45 Aveng3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 14:16 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On June 05 2015 09:17 Aveng3r wrote:
They gotta update the posey rule, Phillies just got robbed by the rulebook


aren't the Phillies in the middle of the heavy lifting stage of a long rebuild?
doesn't this make their record this year relatively unimportant if you're a phillies fan?

that said, the posey rule is pure stupidity. the blue jays #1 play-by-play commentator guy, Buck Martinez, had his career basically ended in a home plate collision. Even he is against the rule.

Yes they are, I am actively rooting for them to lose every day so that maybe we can snag the next Bryce harper

That said, I still don't like it when dipshit rules calls screw their young guys out of production


Pat Gillick is the only non-ownership baseball exec in the hall of fame..
except for Branch Rickey of course.

u guys are lucky to have him guiding the process ... even if he is 5000 years old now.

-he drafted tony fernandez when he was 135 lbs...
-began the gold rush for baseball stars in the dominican.
-the mcgriff trade...
-picked up george bell for $25,000
-by 1985 when Gillick was about 40 years old most owners had a standing order with their GM that they were not allowed to make trades with him... LOLz
-ran the only team other than the Yankees to win consecutive World Series in 40 years.
-traded away ARod and GriffeyJr and won 116 games after the trades.
-the Halladay trade

his nickname in his prime was "yellow pages" because he never forgot even the smallest trivial fact or figure.
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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
June 06 2015 15:02 GMT
#49
On June 06 2015 23:44 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
when u go to a baseball game.. keep ur eyes on the play, unless of course u're sitting in the bleachers.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/baseball/2015/06/05/fan-critically-injured-at-fenway-at-red-sox-athletics-game.html

i've seen a couple of women take some awful smacks from hockey pucks at games when they weren't watching the play

Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 15:45 Aveng3r wrote:
On June 05 2015 14:16 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On June 05 2015 09:17 Aveng3r wrote:
They gotta update the posey rule, Phillies just got robbed by the rulebook


aren't the Phillies in the middle of the heavy lifting stage of a long rebuild?
doesn't this make their record this year relatively unimportant if you're a phillies fan?

that said, the posey rule is pure stupidity. the blue jays #1 play-by-play commentator guy, Buck Martinez, had his career basically ended in a home plate collision. Even he is against the rule.

Yes they are, I am actively rooting for them to lose every day so that maybe we can snag the next Bryce harper

That said, I still don't like it when dipshit rules calls screw their young guys out of production


Pat Gillick is the only non-ownership baseball exec in the hall of fame..
except for Branch Rickey of course.

u guys are lucky to have him guiding the process ... even if he is 5000 years old now.

-he drafted tony fernandez when he was 135 lbs...
-began the gold rush for baseball stars in the dominican.
-the mcgriff trade...
-picked up george bell for $25,000
-by 1985 when Gillick was about 40 years old most owners had a standing order with their GM that they were not allowed to make trades with him... LOLz
-ran the only team other than the Yankees to win consecutive World Series in 40 years.
-traded away ARod and GriffeyJr and won 116 games after the trades.
-the Halladay trade

his nickname in his prime was "yellow pages" because he never forgot even the smallest trivial fact or figure.

Oh definitely, I am thrilled to have him cuz god knows Ruben Amaro isn't gonna get it done, Gillick is the man that assembled the 2008 ws roster and oversaw the best stretch of baseball in phillies history
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 08 2015 01:18 GMT
#50
correa coming up
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-10 01:50:09
June 10 2015 01:13 GMT
#51
Chris Heston currently working some magic.

EDIT: He gets the no-no! Would've been perfect if not for the 3 HBPs
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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
June 14 2015 23:18 GMT
#52
My GOD the Phillies are just so bad its nauseating
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
June 14 2015 23:29 GMT
#53
I have a bunch of friends who are Phillies fans. We don't talk about it.
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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
June 15 2015 04:17 GMT
#54
We probably also have the worst farm system in the league to boot, by FAR. Ruben Amaro is just such a stupid ass hole I can't get my head around it. I could have done a better job than him since he took over.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-15 04:40:16
June 15 2015 04:34 GMT
#55
On June 15 2015 13:17 Aveng3r wrote:
We probably also have the worst farm system in the league to boot, by FAR. Ruben Amaro is just such a stupid ass hole I can't get my head around it. I could have done a better job than him since he took over.


Ernie Whitt is good. He is a big part of Baseball Canada and a great instructor/teacher/leader.
an open minded guy with a massive amount of knowledge.
former catcher of course.
he can handle both the sabermetric analysis side and the practical side of the game.

Gillick and Whitt have a long history together. Don't be surprised if Whitt is given a lot more responsibility if he wants it.

If he is happy with his nice cushy job with Baseball Canada he might not want it though.
Basically, with Baseball Canada Ernie is 1 small step below God.


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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
June 15 2015 22:56 GMT
#56
On June 15 2015 13:17 Aveng3r wrote:
We probably also have the worst farm system in the league to boot, by FAR. Ruben Amaro is just such a stupid ass hole I can't get my head around it. I could have done a better job than him since he took over.

Not super familiar with the Phillies situation, but IIRC the Tigers have a really bad one which is gonna kill them in a few years.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 00:25:25
June 16 2015 00:22 GMT
#57
http://www.csnphilly.com/baseball-philadelphia-phillies/gillick-phillies-not-contender-2015-or-2016

Gillick says 2017 or 2018 for the Phillies and definitely not 2015 or 2016.

The last time Gillick built a team from the ground up was in 1981 and their situation was a lot worse than the Phillies situation.
does he still have the magic?

imo, baseball is such a great game that watching your favourite team lose is still very interesting.
i realize i'm amongst a tiny minority of baseball fans though.
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
June 16 2015 02:13 GMT
#58
What do you guys think of the Royals starting the ASG? I re-read that sentence and realized that no, I didn't mess it up grammatically.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 02:32:06
June 16 2015 02:28 GMT
#59
I think it would be pretty funny if they pull it off
I mean it's not like people take All Star voting super serious right?
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Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 03:18:07
June 16 2015 03:17 GMT
#60
On June 16 2015 11:28 Shellshock wrote:
I think it would be pretty funny if they pull it off
I mean it's not like people take All Star voting super serious right?


well it decides who the home team is for the 7th game of the world series.
and in terms of the 4 major sports in NA ... the baseball all star game more closely resembles real competition.
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
June 16 2015 03:29 GMT
#61
On June 16 2015 11:28 Shellshock wrote:
I think it would be pretty funny if they pull it off
I mean it's not like people take All Star voting super serious right?

I find it hilarious if only because I hate that the game counts.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 17:40:00
June 16 2015 16:28 GMT
#62
Cardinals being investigated for hacking into Astros network to steal player personnel information

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/17/sports/baseball/st-louis-cardinals-hack-astros-fbi.html

edit: haha so they just tried all his old passwords from when the Astros GM worked with the cardinals to get in. Not as exciting "hacking"
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
June 16 2015 17:28 GMT
#63
On June 17 2015 01:28 Shellshock wrote:
Cardinals being investigated for hacking into Astros network to steal player personnel information

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/17/sports/baseball/st-louis-cardinals-hack-astros-fbi.html


wow, there is deflating footballs...
standing 2 inches outside the batter's box..
and then on a whole other level u have cheating that prompts the FBI and Justice Department into action.
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
June 16 2015 23:30 GMT
#64
Still pretty petty thing to do, even if it's hilarious that they just used his old passwords. Strange thing to do as well considering that everyone scouts everyone's guys nowadays.
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
June 16 2015 23:53 GMT
#65
The Cards just cheat the right way.
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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
June 17 2015 02:46 GMT
#66
On June 17 2015 08:30 AgentW wrote:
Still pretty petty thing to do, even if it's hilarious that they just used his old passwords. Strange thing to do as well considering that everyone scouts everyone's guys nowadays.

Yeah that's what I didn't get like can't they just send scouts to the games? What secret information could they be trying to get?
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
June 17 2015 02:59 GMT
#67
On June 17 2015 11:46 Aveng3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 08:30 AgentW wrote:
Still pretty petty thing to do, even if it's hilarious that they just used his old passwords. Strange thing to do as well considering that everyone scouts everyone's guys nowadays.

Yeah that's what I didn't get like can't they just send scouts to the games? What secret information could they be trying to get?

Maybe trying to lowball them on an offer?
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rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
June 17 2015 05:31 GMT
#68
On June 17 2015 11:46 Aveng3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 08:30 AgentW wrote:
Still pretty petty thing to do, even if it's hilarious that they just used his old passwords. Strange thing to do as well considering that everyone scouts everyone's guys nowadays.

Yeah that's what I didn't get like can't they just send scouts to the games? What secret information could they be trying to get?


I guess what they can get out of it is how the Astros assess their own guys? Helps them gauge better how much they would actually need to put on the table to snag whoever they might be looking at on the Astros.
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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
June 17 2015 17:06 GMT
#69
I guess that makes sense, still the whole thing seems weird to me like have some faith in your own talent evaluation! You can figure out how another team values someone by asking them and then comparing your own assessment before making a trade offer.. haven't these guys ever played fantasy baseball??
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-17 17:42:15
June 17 2015 17:17 GMT
#70
access to medical records would give additional knowledge as well.

inside info on personnel problems.
often when a guy is doing stuff like Jon Jones has been doing the team knows.
borderline substance abuse issues etc.

teams never fully know about all a guys warts until they actually draft him and get him inside their organization.

the media likes to act like it knows everything about a baseball player. it does not.
some people buy into the media acting like they know it all.

From 1983 until he retired Cito Gaston was the flat out best at picking up pitchers tipping off their pitches of any on field management. Often Cito would have a pitcher pegged for 3+ years before they figured out Cito knew.

now that Paul Molitor is a manager and that Cito is gone ...guys like Molitor , and Winfield discuss this...Bobby Cox will talk about it... however throughout Cito's career this subject was strictly forbidden.

edit: Molitor himself , come to think of it. his drop in production in his late 20s and mysterious resurgence in his mid-30s can only be explained away by 1 thing ....his love affair with cocaine.

who is currently the best sign stealer in the MLB? we'll never know because the guy that is best at it does not want any one to know because he wants to keep on stealing signals. we'll find out 20+ years from now when everyone is retired and peddling their baseball biographies.

outside observation never tells the whole story. if u have a shot at full access to inside information it must be tempting to go after it.
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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
June 17 2015 18:36 GMT
#71
You go on a lot of weird tangents
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-19 18:48:17
June 19 2015 18:13 GMT
#72
over all point is.. there is a lot going on beneath the surface a scout can never see.

i like to read old baseball biographies.
my all time favourite is "The Bronx Zoo" by Sparky Lyle.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Bronx-Zoo-Astonishing-Champion/dp/1572437154
this is where you learn the behind the scenes stuff that never got publicized.


60 million all-star votes cancelled... 390 million votes have been cast.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/bases-covered-60-million-all-star-votes-cancelled/
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 19 2015 18:18 GMT
#73
lol I was wondering when they were going to start intervening on the all star vote
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Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
June 20 2015 02:04 GMT
#74
Word is that they've been cancelling them. Dunno if this will do anything.
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SwARmZzz
Profile Joined June 2013
Canada193 Posts
June 22 2015 01:28 GMT
#75
Geezus, what the hell happened to Robinson Cano....
Was hitting behind texeira and rodriguez that much of a difference for him or something...?
Hes making pujols/cabrera money but damn
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
June 22 2015 01:52 GMT
#76
On June 22 2015 10:28 SwARmZzz wrote:
Geezus, what the hell happened to Robinson Cano....
Was hitting behind texeira and rodriguez that much of a difference for him or something...?
Hes making pujols/cabrera money but damn


http://razzball.com/robinson-cano-2015-fantasy-schmohawk/

This is a fantasy article but it goes into detail how people were probably expecting a little too much out of Cano coming into this year (due to his contract) when nothing in his stat profile shows that he would deliver big numbers.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-22 13:02:42
June 22 2015 13:00 GMT
#77
Cano again?
here's the spiel

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/482317-major-league-baseball-2015?page=2#31

comparing Cano to Brett? what because they both won the batting title at 23? meh.

if i were in AAA and wanted to increase my salary by an order of magnitude and get into the majors i'd consider steroids to make it happen.

I'm not taking steroids and damaging my life after baseball if i signed a 10 year deal and am financially set for life.

Cano ain't the guy juicing in AAA to increase his salary in the future.. Cano is the guy on the 10 year deal.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-22 18:38:39
June 22 2015 18:17 GMT
#78
Has anyone ever seen a worse way to break up a perfect game?



and it looks like Pete Rose also bet on baseball as a player. the real truth always comes out 30+ years later because too many people have too much to lose by people knowing the truth when it actually means something.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13114874/notebook-obtained-lines-shows-pete-rose-bet-baseball-player-1986
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 22 2015 20:20 GMT
#79
+ Show Spoiler +


this was worse imo. he was clearly out but ruled safe and denied the perfect game
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-03 13:05:18
July 03 2015 13:03 GMT
#80
the blue jays had the opposite of a perfect game last night.
their starter gave up 7 runs without recording an out

no one can trade away pitching for hitting like Alex Anthopoulos can.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
July 16 2015 22:06 GMT
#81
The Dominican Republic pulled the "hidden ball trick" on the US at the Pan Am Games.
Team USA asked for a video review of the play.

these are the issues facing the modern day world
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
August 12 2015 22:33 GMT
#82
KUMAAAAAAAAAAA

Finally something really good for the Mariners not named Nelson Cruz.
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Yergidy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2107 Posts
August 22 2015 03:10 GMT
#83
NO HITTERRRR!!
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 22:33:39
August 24 2015 22:33 GMT
#84
yoan moncada, the white whale i had been following for like 2 years that eventually got signed by boston, is judging A-ball and finding it unworthy. probably will be top 5 prospect in all of baseball by year's end.

but yea rather sign drew and capuano at 50% lux tax premium.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-30 02:11:39
August 30 2015 01:57 GMT
#85
A drunken fan fell down from the upper deck and hit concrete in tonight's yankees-braves game in ATL. probably dead.

he was apparently screaming at a yankees player(arod lol) when he fell.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
August 30 2015 04:37 GMT
#86
he is dead.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=350829115
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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 01 2015 21:00 GMT
#87
Royals could be wiped out of playoff by chickenpox
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-23 14:08:24
September 23 2015 14:07 GMT
#88
it ain't over 'til its over.

unfortunately, its over. no more amazing quotes.
yogi berra is dead.

you look up the word "catcher" in the baseball dictionary and there is a picture of yogi berra in it.
the cartoon character "Yogi Bear" was named after him.

damn this is sad.

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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 25 2015 15:03 GMT
#89
tremendous loss. whitey ford is also not doing so well recently.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
October 04 2015 19:17 GMT
#90
no need to watch any games on pirated streams because MLB.tv is 100% free today.
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Yergidy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2107 Posts
October 07 2015 15:47 GMT
#91
Man it was hard seeing the Astros crash and burn for the last 10 years after their World Series run, it's good to see them in the playoffs again playing competitive baseball.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 07 2015 15:49 GMT
#92
still not sure how good keuchel actually is. take away the bullshit low zone of the past two years, how does he do.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2012
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October 07 2015 17:12 GMT
#93
On October 08 2015 00:49 oneofthem wrote:
still not sure how good keuchel actually is. take away the bullshit low zone of the past two years, how does he do.

Take that away all pitchers are worse, but you have to give him credit for abusing it much better than a lot of other pitches. If the zone gets changed again that still bodes well for him.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 07 2015 17:56 GMT
#94
given his minor league track record and what he did his first couple of years, i don't see him doing that well without the low zone. the guy is great at locating his fastball in that area but the low zone magnifies the ability to command and stretch the strikezone that much more.

it would be a travesty if he wins the cy young
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 07 2015 18:08 GMT
#95
On October 08 2015 02:56 oneofthem wrote:
given his minor league track record and what he did his first couple of years, i don't see him doing that well without the low zone. the guy is great at locating his fastball in that area but the low zone magnifies the ability to command and stretch the strikezone that much more.

it would be a travesty if he wins the cy young

I feel hes a lock for the cy, I'm afraid
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JimmyJRaynor
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Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-08 02:04:09
October 08 2015 01:44 GMT
#96
the guy is one of the best starting pitchers in the AL. simple as that. the strike zone is teh same for everyone.

nice demonstration tonight about why the NL > AL.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 08 2015 19:42 GMT
#97
you can say the strikezone is the same for everyone, but it was designed that way for the reason of achieving a better game.

he's not a cheater or whatever, but his success is exploitative of a recent trend of the zone that may be unhealthy.

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Last Edited: 2015-10-08 20:01:42
October 08 2015 19:51 GMT
#98
with so many hitters getting shifted i wonder how much bunting onto the weak side of the shift we'll see in this year's playoffs. i think bunting is a lost art that has a real upside if players take the time to perfect it.

the yankees did it during their pennant chase and it worked well.

On October 09 2015 04:42 oneofthem wrote:
you can say the strikezone is the same for everyone, but it was designed that way for the reason of achieving a better game.

he's not a cheater or whatever, but his success is exploitative of a recent trend of the zone that may be unhealthy.



unhealthy in what sense?
i find the game approximately as entertaining as i always have ; i've been a baseball fan since '99.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
October 09 2015 16:49 GMT
#99
i just love the new MLBNetwork/ESPN TV set up that includes the positioning of the infielders so you can see if a shift is on and how severe it is.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-10 04:00:09
October 10 2015 01:34 GMT
#100
whatever John Lackey has been taking for the past couple years is working.
JimmyJRaynor
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Last Edited: 2015-10-12 21:26:04
October 12 2015 21:25 GMT
#101
i'm not just sayin' this because Dan Shulman is Canadian and took Actuarial Science in University.

ESPN >> FoxSports
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 12 2015 21:27 GMT
#102
On October 09 2015 04:51 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
with so many hitters getting shifted i wonder how much bunting onto the weak side of the shift we'll see in this year's playoffs. i think bunting is a lost art that has a real upside if players take the time to perfect it.

the yankees did it during their pennant chase and it worked well.

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On October 09 2015 04:42 oneofthem wrote:
you can say the strikezone is the same for everyone, but it was designed that way for the reason of achieving a better game.

he's not a cheater or whatever, but his success is exploitative of a recent trend of the zone that may be unhealthy.



unhealthy in what sense?
i find the game approximately as entertaining as i always have ; i've been a baseball fan since '99.

in the extreme scenario, the game would be distorted by the low zone. it's a development that may break teh balance of offense and pitching if allowed to go too far.
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Last Edited: 2015-10-13 03:15:34
October 12 2015 22:01 GMT
#103
the strike zone in the AL also dropped when AL Umpires abandoned the outside chest protector. Some umps used it and some didn't so the strike zone varied from umpire to umpire for about 10 years... and we went from 76 to 90 with zero 50 home run hitters and the game was just fine.

so i think it'll be ok.

all that and Umps get 10% of calls wrong any way.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/playoff-umps-are-screwing-up-a-tenth-of-balls-and-strikes/

i love watching this Ohlendorf pitch .. i feel like i'm watching a colourized refurbished replay of a 1920s game.
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
October 12 2015 23:31 GMT
#104
Not happy with Gibbons pulling R.A Dickey after 4 and 2/3 to hand the win to Price....very very very weak. Dickey was not struggling in any way. He was doing great IMO
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Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-13 05:09:58
October 13 2015 04:08 GMT
#105
on a scale of 100 .. . i was 55/45 AGAINST removing Dickey. Dickey was removed so Price could face Shin-Soo Choo.

They want Stroman starting on proper rest. Not Price on 3 days or 5 days. So Price is their lefty out of the bullpen.

Shin Soo Choo was 2-2 against Dickey.
before the game started in 14 plate appearances Shin-Soo Choo has 4 hits and 3 walks for a .500 OBP against Dickey.
he has a .370 OBP against Price while striking out more than 1/3 of the time against Price.

Price didn't get hit very hard. One of the doubles he gave up was a ground ball through the left side of an incorrectly shifted infield. When you are shifting on half the players occasionally the shift gets fucked up and Price was a victim of a positioning mistake by his infield.

I somewhat disagree with removing Dickey, but I'm not really bent out of shape about it.
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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10352 Posts
October 14 2015 14:11 GMT
#106
So nervous for the Jays today. common boys you can win at home too!
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-14 15:13:38
October 14 2015 15:13 GMT
#107
big canadian ratings for the blue jays
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-draw-monster-ratings-for-game-3-of-alds/

not a single canadian team has won a major professional championship since the blue jays won the world series in October of 1993 ..... The Montreal Expos, Vancouver Grizzlies, and Quebec Nodiques all left...

i guess canada is desperate for a winner and is rallying around the blue jays.
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 14 2015 16:05 GMT
#108
Mlb praying to the god of money that the jays win
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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10352 Posts
October 14 2015 16:46 GMT
#109
On October 15 2015 00:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
big canadian ratings for the blue jays
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-draw-monster-ratings-for-game-3-of-alds/

not a single canadian team has won a major professional championship since the blue jays won the world series in October of 1993 ..... The Montreal Expos, Vancouver Grizzlies, and Quebec Nodiques all left...

i guess canada is desperate for a winner and is rallying around the blue jays.

intresting thats the same year that the last canadian team won in the NHL too. baseball obviously ends later but maybe this is a sign we will return!
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 14 2015 17:56 GMT
#110
On October 15 2015 01:05 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Mlb praying to the god of money that the jays win

mets cubs dodgers are all superior winners for MLB. not sure what jays bring other than annoying canadians acting like first time baseball watchers
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Last Edited: 2015-10-14 20:05:00
October 14 2015 19:50 GMT
#111
when it comes to money the dream ALCS is Yankees v. Red Sox
and the dream NLCS is Cubs v. Dodgers.

this gives New York , Chicago and Southern Cal. 1 team each.

the dream world series is New Yankees versus the Chicago Cubs with the Cubbies winning in 7.

On October 15 2015 02:56 oneofthem wrote:canadians acting like first time baseball watchers

i can't say for the rest of the country, but inside the jays home park its not an act.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 14 2015 20:08 GMT
#112
On October 15 2015 04:50 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
when it comes to money the dream ALCS is Yankees v. Red Sox
and the dream NLCS is Cubs v. Dodgers.

this gives New York , Chicago and Southern Cal. 1 team each.

the dream world series is New Yankees versus the Chicago Cubs with the Cubbies winning in 7.

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On October 15 2015 02:56 oneofthem wrote:canadians acting like first time baseball watchers

i can't say for the rest of the country, but inside the jays home park its not an act.

there are certainly real and informed jays fans, but also a bunch of bandwagoners and adorably enthusiastic fans. just a little joke at canada's expense, not very serious
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Last Edited: 2015-10-14 21:38:54
October 14 2015 20:46 GMT
#113
ask the people sitting around you at the Rogers Centre how to grip a 4-seam fastball
try that same thing at Comiskey or Fenway.

your comment has a lot of truth to it dude .. no need to back off

Stroman throwing the perfect pitch against a guy trying to bunt.. .a high hard inside rising fastball.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 14 2015 22:57 GMT
#114
what a historic mess by the rangers
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Last Edited: 2015-10-14 22:58:34
October 14 2015 22:58 GMT
#115
donaldson, bautista and encarnacion ....the bay street bullies
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-14 23:13:55
October 14 2015 23:11 GMT
#116
That's the craziest full inning of baseball I have seen ever. I have never seen a catcher hit a batter while tossing back to the pitcher (seen it after a strike out once when the batter started walking towards his dug out but the bases were blank).

Then 3 errors, Bautista not even half way to first when the ball hits the 4th deck and twice the benches empty.

Insane
Also, Rogers center has to be by far the loudest building in any sport. Would love to see a decibel meter
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 14 2015 23:24 GMT
#117
these fans are hilariosu though, throwing stuff like it's a hockey game
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 14 2015 23:25 GMT
#118
Still confused on the rules, run was legal right?
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6163 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-14 23:28:20
October 14 2015 23:26 GMT
#119
On October 15 2015 08:25 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Still confused on the rules, run was legal right?


Actually, no.

The Referes waved the play off before the runner scored so in theory, the run shouldn't count.

This and also the fact that the arms of Cho was out of the batting box when he got hit.


Also...

This is one of the most insane baseball game i watched in my life.. wow... !!!!

Go Jays !!
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
October 14 2015 23:30 GMT
#120
Dale Scott has done an absolutely phenomenal job behind the plate.
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Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3319 Posts
October 14 2015 23:38 GMT
#121
How are you guys watching this game? I'm forced to listen to ESPN live.
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FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6163 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-14 23:41:29
October 14 2015 23:40 GMT
#122
On October 15 2015 08:38 Yaqoob wrote:
How are you guys watching this game? I'm forced to listen to ESPN live.


I got it on TV living in canada :D
Oh wait.. you're in canada too.. well. I got it on RDS in french.
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Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3319 Posts
October 14 2015 23:43 GMT
#123
I don't have a TV in my house lol
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FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6163 Posts
October 14 2015 23:45 GMT
#124
Wooooooooo

Best game ever !!!!!!! :DDDD
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 14 2015 23:46 GMT
#125
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
October 14 2015 23:47 GMT
#126
there are at least 4 pirated sports streaming sites out there man.

a comeback as improbable as a pitcher coming back from a torn ACL in 4 months.
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FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6163 Posts
October 14 2015 23:47 GMT
#127
Coming back from 0-2, winning three in a row.

This is just awesome.

Still don't know who we face next, but they better be ready, cause we are coming hard !!!
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Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3319 Posts
October 14 2015 23:47 GMT
#128
Amazing Game! Congrats Toronto!
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
October 14 2015 23:53 GMT
#129
On October 15 2015 08:47 FaCE_1 wrote:
Coming back from 0-2, winning three in a row.

This is just awesome.

Still don't know who we face next, but they better be ready, cause we are coming hard !!!

Find out right now. Game 5 of Astros and Royals starts in 10 minutes.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 15 2015 01:05 GMT
#130
On October 15 2015 00:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
big canadian ratings for the blue jays
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-draw-monster-ratings-for-game-3-of-alds/

not a single canadian team has won a major professional championship since the blue jays won the world series in October of 1993 ..... The Montreal Expos, Vancouver Grizzlies, and Quebec Nodiques all left...

i guess canada is desperate for a winner and is rallying around the blue jays.


considering they're in one of the hardest divisions and blue jays fans haven't had a whole lot to celebrate in 2 decades i think it's fair they're coming out of the wood work. When the Blue Jays first enter the league this city was crazy over them especially with the new Dome. They used to have so many sellouts and then the lockout hit and things went to shit.

Talk about a bandwagon.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
October 15 2015 01:40 GMT
#131
So bottom of the inning, no outs, runners on second and third, chasing a one run lead, KC has to be favored in this situation.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-15 01:50:08
October 15 2015 01:45 GMT
#132
when the blue jays 1st entered the league their attendance was "meh" for the first 6 years. CBC had their TV rights and they paid fuck all for them.

according to my baseball coach when the Blue Jays first entered the league people went to watch the opposition.. guys like Reggie Jackson and Nolan Ryan. they didn't go to watch the blue jays.

everything changed once Gillick got control of the team... the best baseball exec. for the past 45 years.

Also, of the remaining teams the Toronto Blue Jays have the most recent World Series Champ. Every other team is a lot older than the Blue Jays and only the Dodgers ahve more titles than the Jays.

Given all this, its hard to paint the Blue Jays and their fans in a sympathetic light.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
October 15 2015 01:49 GMT
#133
On October 15 2015 10:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
when the blue jays 1st entered the league their attendance was "meh" for the first 6 years. CBC had their TV rights and they paid fuck all for them.

according to my baseball coach when the Blue Jays first entered the league people went to watch the opposition.. guys like Reggie Jackson and Nolan Ryan. they didn't go to watch the blue jays.

everything changed once Gillick got control of the team.

Also, of the remaining teams the Toronto Blue Jays have the most recent World Series Champ.


You need to get your shit straight. Sure people went to go watch Nolan Ryan and Reggie Jackson considering they're big time attractions and they were playing in the fucking EX before the sky dome. It didn't have a whole lot of seats man. How do I know this shit? Because I was there with seasons tickets.

As for TV ratings. They were never really that good. Baseball was pretty big back then in the T Dot. Everyone I knew played and fuck we won Provincials a few times during that period. ._.
JimmyJRaynor
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Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-15 03:20:59
October 15 2015 01:51 GMT
#134
i listen to the stories my old baseball coaches tell me.. one of 'em even struck out Rob Ducey in a big game.

On October 15 2015 10:49 StarStruck wrote:
they were playing in the fucking EX before the sky dome. It didn't have a whole lot of seats man.

actually the capacity at the Ex ( CNE Stadium) was over 45,000..
the clinching game... from 1985, its on youtube.com, has 45,000+ and not many of the fans had to sit in right field.. standard left field bleachers.,... just watch the game and you can see how far out the people sit in the covered football stadium portion.

cliff johnson was pissed fucking drunk for that game.. .just watch him stagger onto the field for the celebration... he is the last guy to join the pile of players and he can barely stand up.

how do i know Johnson was a drunk? i read "The Bronx Zoo" by Sparky Lyle... Johnson and Lyle played together on the '78 Yankees.

Blue Jays seasons tickets at the CNE Stadium? LOL.. you could sit in the outfield and go to every game for $81 if you went to A&P.

i am a student of the game and somewhat of a baseball historian; i can back up my points.

to get back to my original point: the city was not crazy for the Blue Jays when they first entered the league.. the tickets were dirt cheap ( less than 1/2 the price of a movie ticket back then) and attendance was "meh".

i have zero "sympathy" for Blue Jays fans.
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
October 15 2015 13:13 GMT
#135
JAYYYYSSSSS

I don't even like baseball but I'm on the jaytrain
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 15 2015 13:14 GMT
#136
with the low zone seemingly here to stay guys who can hit those low pitches should be more valuable. vlad gurrerro would be a god right about now
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Last Edited: 2015-10-15 15:48:11
October 15 2015 15:13 GMT
#137
Mini-Bautista



Jose Bautista is my favourite Blue Jay because he is from the Dominican Republic .. the other country that cheers for the Blue Jays.

On October 15 2015 22:14 oneofthem wrote:
with the low zone seemingly here to stay guys who can hit those low pitches should be more valuable. vlad gurrerro would be a god right about now

george bell.. the balance between pitching and hitting is great...i'm 100% happy.
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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10352 Posts
October 15 2015 18:11 GMT
#138
Yeah I have no delusions that I'm not just bandwagoning. I prefer to watch hockey mon-sun but playoffs are so exciting its making a baseball fan out of me. some of my earliest memories are in the nosebleeds in the skydome with my father so its not completely without cause.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
October 16 2015 00:06 GMT
#139
Estrada v. Volquez in the curtain raiser in KC on friday night!

http://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2015/10/15/marco-estrada-leads-jays-starting-rotation-for-alcs.html
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
October 16 2015 00:25 GMT
#140
Is Estrada good? I haven't been following it long enough to know all the jays players yet
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
October 16 2015 00:36 GMT
#141
He used to be, then he was terrible, but he had a fine year that was driven by BAbip and a high LOB%. He'll probably regress heavily next year and potentially in this playoff.
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Last Edited: 2015-10-16 00:56:52
October 16 2015 00:39 GMT
#142
On October 16 2015 09:36 AgentW wrote:
He used to be, then he was terrible, but he had a fine year that was driven by BAbip and a high LOB%. He'll probably regress heavily next year and potentially in this playoff.


the playoffs are too small a sample size for a 3rd starter to comment on any kind of trend.
tomorrow might be his last start.

thus far in the playoffs Estrada has 1 great start against a heavily left handed hitting team that had the best offense in the AL in the 2nd half of the season... not too shabby.

http://www.lonestarball.com/2015/8/18/9172215/texas-rangers-second-half-offensive-stats

this is far and away the best year for a 31 year old who has never had more than 23 starts in his career... so saying he will "regress heavily next year" ain't sayin' much.

Estrada pitching usually means Navarro will be the starting catcher. Martin > Navarro... so there is that to factor in.

Unlike the implication by the guy i quoted i'll say Marco Estrada is full value for his low ERA he put up in a hitter's park while having Reyes and Collabello as basically red flag zones playing the infield and outfield respectively. Reyes was horrible at SS and Collabello had never played the outfied before.. he was equally abysmal... he had trouble judging simple fly balls all year.

There is your Marco Estrada report.

looking at Shin-Soo Choo's #s i think we can see why Gibbons used Price against him in game 4.

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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
October 16 2015 00:54 GMT
#143
On October 16 2015 09:39 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 09:36 AgentW wrote:
He used to be, then he was terrible, but he had a fine year that was driven by BAbip and a high LOB%. He'll probably regress heavily next year and potentially in this playoff.


the playoffs are too small a sample size for a 3rd starter to comment on any kind of trend.
tomorrow might be his last start.

thus far in the playoffs Estrada has 1 great start against a heavily left handed hitting team that had the best offense in the AL in the 2nd half of the season... not too shabby.

http://www.lonestarball.com/2015/8/18/9172215/texas-rangers-second-half-offensive-stats

this is far and away the best year for a 31 year old who has never had more than 23 starts in his career... so saying he will "regress heavily next year" ain't sayin' much.

Estrada pitching usually means Navarro will be the starting catcher. Martin > Navarro... so there is that to factor in.

Marco Estrada is full value for the #s he put up in a hitter's park while having Reyes and Collabello as basically red flag zones playing the infield and outfield respectively.

There is your Marco Estrada report.

looking at Shin-Soo Choo's #s i think we can see why Gibbons used Price against him in game 4.


Oh, come off it. Clayton Kershaw's LOB% for his career is 78.3%. Estrada had a 79.2% this year which is 6% better than his career average. His BAbip of .216 led the league by a wide margin.

Don't be a homer, he's severely outperformed his peripherals.
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JimmyJRaynor
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Last Edited: 2015-10-16 01:01:28
October 16 2015 00:57 GMT
#144
Reyes at Shortstop... Collabello flat out missing fly balls all over the place. LOL
Bautista short arming the ball half the year...etc etc.
Even Collabello at first

how many Blue Jays games did you actually watch live to see the mess the Jays defense was until Tulo and Revere arrived and Bautista's 4th cortisone shot finally worked?

considering the park the jays are in and the defense Estrada has to put up with he is full value for the ERA he put up.
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
October 16 2015 01:03 GMT
#145
Uh, what? You're making my point. Despite terrible defense, he led the league in BAbip which is partly dependent on the batted ball profile he allows and the defense behind him. He was 2nd in the league in fly ball percentage (<50%) which is freaking bonkers considering his 8.7% HR/FB rate. He's going to get SMASHED next year. He's not good at all.
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Last Edited: 2015-10-16 01:16:15
October 16 2015 01:13 GMT
#146
guess you didn't read my first post.
with lousy defense in a small park he is full value for the low run totals he has surrendered this year.

what were you expecting against his 1 start against Texas , a perfect game?
he was the Blue Jays best starter in the first playoff series.

and he'll probably go back to what he always was or worse because pitchers peak at 27 or 28... they don't peak at 32+
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AgentW
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United States7725 Posts
October 16 2015 01:17 GMT
#147
The original question was:

On October 16 2015 09:25 Jer99 wrote:
Is Estrada good? I haven't been following it long enough to know all the jays players yet


I responded with "no". You replied with:

On October 16 2015 09:39 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the playoffs are too small a sample size for a 3rd starter to comment on any kind of trend.


Which is correct. But then you say:

On October 16 2015 10:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
what were you expecting against his 1 start against Texas , a perfect game?


See the issue? I'm looking at the full season. He's not good.

Look, your team is really, really good at hitting the ball a million miles and has a few top notch starters, but Marco Estrada isn't good. This isn't the hill to die on.
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Last Edited: 2015-10-16 01:30:39
October 16 2015 01:21 GMT
#148
Estrada is good this year and has been 100% full value for the low ERA he put up this year which is why he is the starter for game 1.

Estrada is Toronto's best starter in the playoffs so far this year. You mentioned some kind of regression in the playoffs...it did not happen against a really good offense ... he walked zero and struck out 4.

Taking a look at his entire career he has not been good... but this game is being played in 2015... not some theoretical time in the past.

TL; DR Version

Gibbons picked Estrada to start game 1 because he had the best start of any Toronto pitcher in the previous playoff series. A negative to Estrada starting is that Navarro is the starting catcher when he pitches. Russell Martin is better than Dioner Navarro.
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
October 16 2015 01:26 GMT
#149
Of course I'm mentioning regression, his statistics are that of a ticking time bomb! He plays in a super HR friendly park and has somehow black magicked his way into not giving up basically any HRs. That's sorcery that's bound to disappear any minute.

As for you citing a single game as validation of his abilities: if you really believe that, I'm waiting for you to start using RBIs as a measure of Josh Donaldson's talent.
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Last Edited: 2015-10-16 02:59:57
October 16 2015 01:32 GMT
#150
On October 16 2015 10:26 AgentW wrote:
As for you citing a single game as validation of his abilities:


you stated a regression in the playoffs and i criticized it as too small a sample size... and then provided the 1 start that has happened in the playoffs. please read my posts

On October 16 2015 09:39 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 09:36 AgentW wrote:
He'll probably regress heavily next year and potentially in this playoff.


the playoffs are too small a sample size for a 3rd starter to comment on any kind of trend.
tomorrow might be his last start.


On October 16 2015 10:26 AgentW wrote:
He plays in a super HR friendly park and has somehow black magicked his way into not giving up basically any HRs. That's sorcery that's bound to disappear any minute.


there is no black magic over 181 innings in a division that was 30 games over .500 featuring 3 of the top 4 offenses in the AL.
also, he did give up 24 home runs... so his black magic ain't that great any way.
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neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
October 16 2015 04:09 GMT
#151
On October 16 2015 09:54 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 09:39 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On October 16 2015 09:36 AgentW wrote:
He used to be, then he was terrible, but he had a fine year that was driven by BAbip and a high LOB%. He'll probably regress heavily next year and potentially in this playoff.


the playoffs are too small a sample size for a 3rd starter to comment on any kind of trend.
tomorrow might be his last start.

thus far in the playoffs Estrada has 1 great start against a heavily left handed hitting team that had the best offense in the AL in the 2nd half of the season... not too shabby.

http://www.lonestarball.com/2015/8/18/9172215/texas-rangers-second-half-offensive-stats

this is far and away the best year for a 31 year old who has never had more than 23 starts in his career... so saying he will "regress heavily next year" ain't sayin' much.

Estrada pitching usually means Navarro will be the starting catcher. Martin > Navarro... so there is that to factor in.

Marco Estrada is full value for the #s he put up in a hitter's park while having Reyes and Collabello as basically red flag zones playing the infield and outfield respectively.

There is your Marco Estrada report.

looking at Shin-Soo Choo's #s i think we can see why Gibbons used Price against him in game 4.


Oh, come off it. Clayton Kershaw's LOB% for his career is 78.3%. Estrada had a 79.2% this year which is 6% better than his career average. His BAbip of .216 led the league by a wide margin.

Don't be a homer, he's severely outperformed his peripherals.


The thing with Estrada is that BAbip doesn't tel the whole story.

He's an extreme flyball pitcher. Take a look at his percentages and he gets a lot more pop-ups and flyballs than average. He's in the 99th percentile for the former and the 96th for the latter. He's also in the 1st percentile in number of line drives. So he gets a ton of fly balls, pop-ups, and very few line drives.

Now the fly balls are dangerous when they're hit at over 100mph. But get between 94 and 75mph, and the average plummets to .041, and the slugging to .084. 65% of Estrada's flyballs, in comparison to the league average 59%, are in thiis dead ball zone. Plus, the groundballs he does get (4th percentile so very few) are hit more poorly than average.

Using BAbip is useful for broad generalizations, but can differ between pitchers. It's important to look at the finer details too. Estrada is walking a fine line. If he lets his pitches get hit a bit harder, he might regress, but that goes for almost any pitcher. I don't think he's overperforming at all atm.

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Last Edited: 2015-10-16 04:34:14
October 16 2015 04:15 GMT
#152
Estrada started 5 out of 28 times against the Yankees. the difficulty of Estrada's competition was as tough as any starter in the AL ( and by extension MLB because of the DH).

To have the 5th lowest ERA in the AL while having 18% of your starts against an offense as potent as the Yankees is a solid accomplishment.

The East is the toughest division in the AL and any pitcher managing a low ERA in that shark tank of sluggers and tiny ball parks has well earned it.

Marco Estrada included.

The pitcher is 100% responsible for Ks, BBs and Home Runs... its a pitcher's 100% responsibility to keep the ball in the ball park and there is no "black magic" involved at all.

In his only playoff start he gave up zero home runs, zero walks and 4 Ks while surrendering a sequence of bullshit ground ball base hits. his quality start against the best offense in baseball in the 2nd half of 2015 was well earned.

any one claiming Estrada is all about luck is just not watching him actually pitch. They are just reading a stat sheet.

Edit: Gratz to the Mets..... a Cubs/Blue Jays world series will become Canada versus the USA for the fans.
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
October 16 2015 14:55 GMT
#153
On October 16 2015 13:09 neobowman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 09:54 AgentW wrote:
On October 16 2015 09:39 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On October 16 2015 09:36 AgentW wrote:
He used to be, then he was terrible, but he had a fine year that was driven by BAbip and a high LOB%. He'll probably regress heavily next year and potentially in this playoff.


the playoffs are too small a sample size for a 3rd starter to comment on any kind of trend.
tomorrow might be his last start.

thus far in the playoffs Estrada has 1 great start against a heavily left handed hitting team that had the best offense in the AL in the 2nd half of the season... not too shabby.

http://www.lonestarball.com/2015/8/18/9172215/texas-rangers-second-half-offensive-stats

this is far and away the best year for a 31 year old who has never had more than 23 starts in his career... so saying he will "regress heavily next year" ain't sayin' much.

Estrada pitching usually means Navarro will be the starting catcher. Martin > Navarro... so there is that to factor in.

Marco Estrada is full value for the #s he put up in a hitter's park while having Reyes and Collabello as basically red flag zones playing the infield and outfield respectively.

There is your Marco Estrada report.

looking at Shin-Soo Choo's #s i think we can see why Gibbons used Price against him in game 4.


Oh, come off it. Clayton Kershaw's LOB% for his career is 78.3%. Estrada had a 79.2% this year which is 6% better than his career average. His BAbip of .216 led the league by a wide margin.

Don't be a homer, he's severely outperformed his peripherals.


The thing with Estrada is that BAbip doesn't tel the whole story.

He's an extreme flyball pitcher. Take a look at his percentages and he gets a lot more pop-ups and flyballs than average. He's in the 99th percentile for the former and the 96th for the latter. He's also in the 1st percentile in number of line drives. So he gets a ton of fly balls, pop-ups, and very few line drives.

Now the fly balls are dangerous when they're hit at over 100mph. But get between 94 and 75mph, and the average plummets to .041, and the slugging to .084. 65% of Estrada's flyballs, in comparison to the league average 59%, are in thiis dead ball zone. Plus, the groundballs he does get (4th percentile so very few) are hit more poorly than average.

Using BAbip is useful for broad generalizations, but can differ between pitchers. It's important to look at the finer details too. Estrada is walking a fine line. If he lets his pitches get hit a bit harder, he might regress, but that goes for almost any pitcher. I don't think he's overperforming at all atm.

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Keep reading my posts, I go into this. He's still an anomaly.
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Last Edited: 2015-10-16 15:24:25
October 16 2015 15:04 GMT
#154
it'll be cool if something like this can lower the # of Tommy John surgeries in the future.

http://motusglobal.com/howitworks/

after 5 more years of improving on this design i think training camp pitchers will use a far better version of this product to assess the state of their pitching elbow.

As it is right now, this thing is pretty good.


On October 16 2015 23:55 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 13:09 neobowman wrote:
On October 16 2015 09:54 AgentW wrote:
On October 16 2015 09:39 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
On October 16 2015 09:36 AgentW wrote:
He used to be, then he was terrible, but he had a fine year that was driven by BAbip and a high LOB%. He'll probably regress heavily next year and potentially in this playoff.


the playoffs are too small a sample size for a 3rd starter to comment on any kind of trend.
tomorrow might be his last start.

thus far in the playoffs Estrada has 1 great start against a heavily left handed hitting team that had the best offense in the AL in the 2nd half of the season... not too shabby.

http://www.lonestarball.com/2015/8/18/9172215/texas-rangers-second-half-offensive-stats

this is far and away the best year for a 31 year old who has never had more than 23 starts in his career... so saying he will "regress heavily next year" ain't sayin' much.

Estrada pitching usually means Navarro will be the starting catcher. Martin > Navarro... so there is that to factor in.

Marco Estrada is full value for the #s he put up in a hitter's park while having Reyes and Collabello as basically red flag zones playing the infield and outfield respectively.

There is your Marco Estrada report.

looking at Shin-Soo Choo's #s i think we can see why Gibbons used Price against him in game 4.


Oh, come off it. Clayton Kershaw's LOB% for his career is 78.3%. Estrada had a 79.2% this year which is 6% better than his career average. His BAbip of .216 led the league by a wide margin.

Don't be a homer, he's severely outperformed his peripherals.


The thing with Estrada is that BAbip doesn't tel the whole story.

He's an extreme flyball pitcher. Take a look at his percentages and he gets a lot more pop-ups and flyballs than average. He's in the 99th percentile for the former and the 96th for the latter. He's also in the 1st percentile in number of line drives. So he gets a ton of fly balls, pop-ups, and very few line drives.

Now the fly balls are dangerous when they're hit at over 100mph. But get between 94 and 75mph, and the average plummets to .041, and the slugging to .084. 65% of Estrada's flyballs, in comparison to the league average 59%, are in thiis dead ball zone. Plus, the groundballs he does get (4th percentile so very few) are hit more poorly than average.

Using BAbip is useful for broad generalizations, but can differ between pitchers. It's important to look at the finer details too. Estrada is walking a fine line. If he lets his pitches get hit a bit harder, he might regress, but that goes for almost any pitcher. I don't think he's overperforming at all atm.

Source

Keep reading my posts, I go into this. He's still an anomaly.


Jose Bautista and Ricky Romero's large change in performance was also anomalous. Does not mean it was luck driven in either case.

The only way to know of Romero's giant decline at age 27 in 2012 was to watch him actually pitch.
The only thing a guy reading a stat sheet could say about his 2012 performance up to August is "sample size too small".
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
October 16 2015 23:59 GMT
#155
Jeez I don't even wanna know what the cost of a B2 Stealth Bomber fly-by is. Only in America can a 737 million dollar plane be used at a baseball game lol
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Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-17 02:11:36
October 17 2015 00:51 GMT
#156
back to 1973 baseball as the blue jays trade a runner at 1st with none out for a runner on 2nd and one out... only the pitcher should be making a bunt like Goins just did.

Volquez's pitch #100 looked like a Willie Hernandez screwgie
cool pitch.. i wish he'd use it more.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 19 2015 12:12 GMT
#157
it's not fun around mests fans
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Canada8157 Posts
October 20 2015 20:51 GMT
#158
Ouch Dickey...
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JimmyJRaynor
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Last Edited: 2015-10-20 23:37:38
October 20 2015 23:36 GMT
#159
given how red-hot the KC hitters are the mediocre start by Estrada is looking better and better with each KC player that crosses home plate

Cliff Pennington pitching LOL

this is historical. no position player has ever pitched in teh post season
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8157 Posts
October 20 2015 23:48 GMT
#160
i can't believe i watched all of that
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Last Edited: 2015-10-21 00:25:54
October 21 2015 00:15 GMT
#161
Most runs scored in the first 4 games of an ALCS.
5-6-8-14

33 runs in 4 games.
so much for the alleged low strike zone ruining the game
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 21 2015 00:37 GMT
#162
On October 21 2015 09:15 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Most runs scored in the first 4 games of an ALCS.
5-6-8-14

33 runs in 4 games.
so much for the alleged low strike zone ruining the game

i know you are joking but if dickey can throw below the knees consistently he'd have a low low era lol
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Last Edited: 2015-10-21 23:11:02
October 21 2015 22:08 GMT
#163
the royals starter really got fucked on Bautista's ball 4 pitch. that was a perfect pitch and strike 3.
that was an example of the pitcher throwing such a great pitch he even fooled the umpire.

we're at ~ 200 innings now for Estrada this year.. where is that guy that said his success this year is based on luck

5 starts against the Yankees, 1 against Texas after Texas hitting lead the majors in the 2nd half...
2 against a team that broke a record for runs scored in 4 post season games.
the quality of his competition has been absolutely brutal.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 22 2015 23:22 GMT
#164
Most important game of Price's career? Other than that crazy last day of the season where he blew it but his team saved his ass.
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Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-24 04:51:20
October 24 2015 04:41 GMT
#165
TORONTO DISAPPOINTMENT CONTINUES

am sad

Price played fine, we really need to figure out what to do with our 8/9 spots if they can't hit in these situations. I'm fine with Price signing or leaving, it's not like it's bad having a pitcher getting you into the 8th with only 3 runs, but we were hoping he would be more clutch for us in the playoffs. Hopefully the Jays can pull out some more magic next year before Bautista gets too old, because he's our friggin' savior. I have to go find a Bautista jersey now to cry in
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Last Edited: 2015-10-24 06:07:09
October 24 2015 06:06 GMT
#166
On October 24 2015 13:41 Blisse wrote:
TORONTO DISAPPOINTMENT CONTINUES

Toronto baseball fans are spoiled... of the 4 remaining teams they had not just 1 but the 2 most recent world series wins. also, this years team had a 42-12 stretch.

of course, most of the toronto people moaning about this loss are not baseball fans.
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Blisse
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Last Edited: 2015-10-25 03:18:36
October 25 2015 03:17 GMT
#167
On October 24 2015 15:06 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 13:41 Blisse wrote:
TORONTO DISAPPOINTMENT CONTINUES

Toronto baseball fans are spoiled... of the 4 remaining teams they had not just 1 but the 2 most recent world series wins. also, this years team had a 42-12 stretch.

of course, most of the toronto people moaning about this loss are not baseball fans.



:p i have a picture of me with a jays hat from 2002 i can show you if you don't think i'm a fan
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October 25 2015 04:44 GMT
#168
lol
i said most

just off the top of my head...

when is the last time a team went 42-12?
Bautista has been the best slugger in the post steroid era. Roy Halladay.

How many walk-off world series winning homers have their been in the 120+ year history of baseball ?
How many teams less than 50 years old have repeated as World Series champs?.. for that matter how many teams less than 100 years old have done it?
How many non-owner baseball execs are in the Hall?
Any time Rogers Communications decides to flex their financial muscles they can instantly put a winner together.

Blue Jays fans have witnessed some historic stuff in the team's short life.
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rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
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November 02 2015 05:09 GMT
#169
Looks like the Royals are about to close this out? Or will the Mets work some magic later
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 02 2015 05:15 GMT
#170
I dont understand how the manager lets Matt Harvey talk his way into the 9th inning. I think Mets would have won if they had just started the 9th with the closer. oh well.
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rebdomine
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November 02 2015 05:21 GMT
#171
On November 02 2015 14:15 Shellshock wrote:
I dont understand how the manager lets Matt Harvey talk his way into the 9th inning. I think Mets would have won if they had just started the 9th with the closer. oh well.


I would've understood if Harvey had a mid 80s pitch count and you figure you could get away with having him pitch one more inning (as he probably will not be pitching in the series again), but there was no reason not to go to the closer in that situation.
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Last Edited: 2015-11-02 05:51:50
November 02 2015 05:27 GMT
#172
the closer has been getting bombed by the royals making it far from a clear cut decision.

On October 16 2015 09:36 AgentW wrote:
He used to be, then he was terrible, but he had a fine year that was driven by BAbip and a high LOB%. He'll probably regress heavily next year and potentially in this playoff.


Let's pay attention to outcomes.

Estrada 19.333 innings pitched.... 15 Ks .. 1 Walk. 0.78 Whip. 2.35 ERA.

As I stated earlier making a prediction about a playoff is haphazard at best due to the small sample size. However, your prediction was incorrect. He pitched great. 15Ks adn 1 Walk has nothing to do with luck.

Estrada threw 200 innings this year and given the strength of the competition he faced he is full value for his low ERA both during the regular season and in the playoffs.

Estrada may have found a new level to his game and made an improvement in his 30s that not many pitchers make. or he might revert back to his earlier career performance. it'll be interesting to see the kind of contract Estrada gets next year. Very few GMs will assign his performance to luck and that will be reflected in his next contract.

Gratz to the Royals on their first world series since 1985....

they steam rolled a team that went 42-12 at the end of the year and buried the Mets. i'm glad a bullshit BO5 which proves nothing didn't knock them out in the 1st round. KC was the best over all team on planet earth this year, but i would've prefer to see them face St. Louis or the Cubs or the Pirates because those were the best 3 teams in the NL.

Gratz to Yost and the city... KC is a great place to watch a ball game.

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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
November 06 2015 18:56 GMT
#173
i guess i'm not the only one who thinks Estrada's 2015 season was luck based.
and they got a lot closer look at him than i did.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-extend-qualifying-offer-to-estrada/
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-06 22:51:42
November 06 2015 21:53 GMT
#174
Call me when someone accepts a QO. I'll wait.

Also, some bedtime reading material for you.
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JimmyJRaynor
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Last Edited: 2015-11-07 00:47:30
November 07 2015 00:28 GMT
#175
you predicted his "regression" in the playoffs though.

his biggest problem is his age.,, he won't "regress"... if there is a decline in his performance he'll deteriorate as the overwhelming vast majority of athletes do in every sport in their 30s.

but, that's boring to discuss so i'll talk about the lagrange vector of the pitcher's planar projection of his blah blah ...
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
November 07 2015 01:56 GMT
#176
Man, if every time I said a guy is going to experience "potential regression", everyone is going to be giving up a 7 ERA. Give it up.
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JimmyJRaynor
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Last Edited: 2016-10-01 02:06:21
October 01 2016 02:01 GMT
#177
After plenty of posts in a back and forth debate its time to "pay attention to outcomes" on the Marco Estrada case.

Marco Estrada finishes 2016 with
3.48 ERA, 176 IP, 131 Hits, 165Ks, 65 BBs.
12th best ERA amongst starters in the AL in the toughest division playing on painted green concrete
only a handful of starters have more Ks per innings pitched than Estrada

Therefore, Marco Estrada's performance fell in line with my prediction. His biggest problem this year is a deteriorating back. He is not regressing to the mean; he is aging and deteriorating due to age. Again, pretty much as i stated. Player's bodies deteriorate after age 30.

Marco Estrada did not get "smashed" in 2016 nor in the 2015 playoffs as others suggested. "Smashed" would be a substantially below average pitcher.

At this point its hard to declare 350+ innings as a small sample size. This is what Marco Estrada is. A slightly below average pitcher who evolved into an above average pitcher.

Projection For Estrada: If his back holds out he'll continue to perform as he has the past 370 innings with a small decline due to age. If he does not resolve the herniated disk problem in his back he'll be terrible. We'll have to see if he gets surgery for his back.
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JimmyJRaynor
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Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-07 15:06:55
October 07 2016 14:57 GMT
#178
post season Marco Estrada putting up Sandy Koufax #s. LOL. Koufax WHIP .835.. Estrada .832
Estrada gives up way too many home runs to be considered in Koufax's league. But, if you want to sit around and play with trivial stat #s all day you can make anything seem true.
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Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
October 10 2016 03:16 GMT
#179
I'm okay with whatever Estrada has with his back if the Jays get to the World Series on his back.

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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-03 04:59:56
November 03 2016 04:57 GMT
#180
Joe Maddon is a baseball genius..... but that squeeze with a 3-2 count was a big mistake. he rode his best guys hard. i'd do the same damn thing. the 100+ year draught is over. Congratz to the Cubs and their great fans.

top 3 baseball fans. top 3 place to watch an MLB game.

rip the lights down and play every game at wrigley in the afternoon next year
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6163 Posts
November 03 2016 08:09 GMT
#181
That was just an awesome game. Great series.

GJ to the Cubs.
n_n
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
November 03 2016 11:17 GMT
#182
Congrats to Cubs. Great to see them win the world series. Great game seven as well.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 03 2016 17:46 GMT
#183
Amazing, also the Ottoman Empire, Russian, Austria-Hungary, and German Empires still existed.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
November 02 2017 04:04 GMT
#184
Congratz to the state of Texas and the Houston Astros for their 1st World Series title.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
November 02 2017 15:21 GMT
#185
You guys see that SI cover from back in 2014 when they nailed the prediction?

Also is this the only MLB thread still going here?
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
November 02 2017 15:32 GMT
#186
based on a quick "baseball" "MLB" search i think it is.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-07 21:49:58
November 07 2017 21:23 GMT
#187
Roy Halladay died.
very , very sad.
seeing how he interacted with his wife and family i'd say he was 1 of the few pro athletes that didn't cheat on his wife.
this sucks.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/21331438/roy-halladay-40-dies-plane-crash-gulf-mexico

Roy Halladay was tough as nails, first class, and just a top notch human being who represented the Toronto Blue Jays and Canada better than any player did in the history of the Blue Jay organizaiton.

this is really sad.
greatest blue jay ever... RIP.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-29 18:43:25
March 29 2018 18:42 GMT
#188
OPENING DAY FELLAS LETS GO WOOOOOOOOO
btw im putting my spot on accurate 2015 predictions in a spoiler and will update with all the latest, would a mod mind changing the thread title to 2018?
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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
March 29 2018 18:44 GMT
#189
Ah nevermind looks like the edit function has expired.
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13816 Posts
March 29 2018 21:32 GMT
#190
I'm still roffling over the tigers signing ron gardenhire for their manager. His greatest achievement is losing to the Yankees year after year after year. and getting a contract renewal after two 100 loss seasons.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
March 30 2018 14:06 GMT
#191
https://deadspin.com/the-most-fun-thing-about-every-baseball-team-this-year-1824175462

Rather than write anything myself I will shamelessly post this link for a quick synopsis of your 2018 teams!
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-23 16:47:22
April 23 2018 16:46 GMT
#192
Super Mega Baseball 2 is out next Tuesday. Super Mega Baseball 1 was really good.

Cross-Platform play and online multiplayer with dedicated servers. I hope the launch goes smoothly!

https://store.steampowered.com/app/414870/Super_Mega_Baseball_2/
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51399 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-26 04:52:11
April 26 2018 04:48 GMT
#193
i do miss the mvp baseball series. a game that ea actually got right over the years until they canned it (ironically cause 2k took the mlb license as revenge for ea taking the nfl license lol)
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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
April 26 2018 19:38 GMT
#194
That trailer looks good, i really got a kick out of the comebacker that knocks the pitcher over lol
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
May 02 2018 20:12 GMT
#195
a word of warning about Super Mega Baseball 2.
Online Competitive Multiplayer REQUIRES the use of a controller.

they really buried that fact.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Keyes
Profile Joined May 2018
United States4 Posts
May 11 2018 17:41 GMT
#196
Never heard of this series. They give me a Backyard Baseball type of vibe... Looks fun!
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-16 16:15:28
May 16 2018 16:15 GMT
#197
online competitive play for Super Mega Baseball 2 is not good for several reasons.
if you want to play 1v1 competitive with this game you have to be in the same room with your opponent.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-28 16:23:22
March 28 2019 16:18 GMT
#198
I can only assume that interest has built up such that we can all barely contain it but -

OPENING DAY LETS GO BABY WOOOOOO!!!! (games in Japan don't count)

Some links to save me from putting any sort of effort into my own writeup -

https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2019/3/28/18284865/opening-day-predictions-world-series-mvp-rookie-of-year
https://www.si.com/mlb/2019/03/27/mlb-season-preview
https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/2019-mlb-season-preview/

Lets go Phillies. Harper might slug 30 over that right field fence at CBP alone.

Edit: one more - http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26228145/only-opening-day-preview-need
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
March 28 2019 18:44 GMT
#199
Soldier 76 at the Nats game today....

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Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5223 Posts
November 20 2019 19:18 GMT
#200
Hot damn. MLB looking at cutting the amount of MILB teams by 25%. Hope this fails. I love minor league ball.

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/ny-minor-league-luhnow-madden-20191116-73ssnr7ybvdwzdr5vd44vh4e5m-story.html
List of all the teams: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/16/sports/baseball/mlb-minor-league-proposal.html
WGT<3. Former CL/NW head admin.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
December 11 2019 17:13 GMT
#201
meh, i quit watching the MLB brand of baseball a few years ago.

Too many at bats end in a walk, strike out or home run. Its boring to watch 25+ Ks and 15+ Walks in a game. I think MLB should have ball parks like old Yankee Stadium and Old Tigers Stadium in order to cut back on every single player in the line up including the shortstop and second baseman swinging for the fences on every pitch...

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28273986/uptick-home-runs-attributed-seam-heights-batting-techniques-not-juiced-balls

I'd like to see more pitchers succeed the way Marco Estrada did. Change up pitchers give up a lot of 380 foot fly balls.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
December 12 2019 19:26 GMT
#202
Can't argue any of that, although I admit its fun to watch 5 foot 6 jose altuve cranking them out of the park on the regular
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UsedEgg3
Profile Joined May 2019
126 Posts
February 23 2020 20:56 GMT
#203
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28760766/fans-heckling-astros-spring-opener-get-signs-confiscated

I'm enjoying the fact that fans heckling the Astros for stealing signs had their...signs stolen.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-13 19:52:34
November 13 2020 19:52 GMT
#204
if Alex Anthopolous can be a GM... any non-player, including a female non-player, can be as well.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/marlins-hire-kim-ng-first-female-gm-mlb-history/

The closer the management personnel gets to on field coaching the more difficult it is for a non-player to be qualified for the job. Especially, batting coaches and pitching coaches.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-08 19:55:38
January 08 2021 19:54 GMT
#205
Tommy Lasorda died

Here is my favourite Lasorda moment.... Kirk Gibson could barely walk ... and running? forgetaboutit.

For Lasorda to put a crippled up, slumping Gibson in to pinch hit... talk about balls.

"i don't believe what i just saw"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0toCMwEBwLo2a
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-10 02:29:50
January 10 2021 02:27 GMT
#206
On January 09 2021 04:54 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
.....

For Lasorda to put a crippled up, slumping Gibson in to pinch hit... talk about balls. .....



Gibson was the Dodger's Hottest and best hitter before he got hurt.  The Dodger's hitting that year was average at best.  So losing Gibson was a big blow to their chances of winning. He was so badly hurt, he was cringing in pain with every swing.  It was amazing seeing him hit that home run.  That's a real man there, pushing through the PAIN! AND WINNING!
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-14 14:03:14
March 14 2021 13:59 GMT
#207
talk about fun! this is awesome. 2 hours , 43 minutes, 37 seconds

walk off home run


we live in such a "safety conscious" fearful society today that moments like this do not happen any longer.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6163 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-15 11:47:46
March 15 2021 11:46 GMT
#208
I prefer this one

www.youtube.com
n_n
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16647 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-17 22:02:54
March 17 2021 21:55 GMT
#209
as great as that was ... a "field rush" was not permitted. what made that walk off home run so fun was the "field rush".
I think the last time "field rush"-es were permitted was 1985. The Blue Jays didn't have a "field rush" in '89, '91, '92, or '93.

I believe the last "field rush" was the 1985 Toronto Blue Jays winning the American League pennant over the New York Yankees in a 6 month 162 game steele cage Texas Death Match.

1986 had no field rush.


its a cryin' shame there was no field rush that year because the 1986 world series was one of the greatest ever... in the history of anything...

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