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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16971 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-30 04:57:22
April 30 2015 04:40 GMT
#21
On April 30 2015 13:04 Spiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 12:13 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
if ur foot is not on the pitching rubber when you release the pitch it is a balk.

the pitch is a ball and baserunners advance 1 base.


You are misinformed.


here is my source.

according to MLB rules.

, "An ILLEGAL PITCH is (1) a pitch delivered to the batter when the pitcher does not have his pivot foot in contact with the pitcher’s plate; (2) a quick return pitch. An illegal pitch when runners are on base is a balk."

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloads/y2013/official_baseball_rules.pdf

On April 30 2015 13:04 Spiller wrote:
TL:DR: There is nothing in the rulebook about leaving the rubber during a pitch. The Marlins asked for clarification from MLB and they said as long as he doesn't elevate while doing the "jump" then it is legal.

the rulebook in this area is self contradictory. which is why he got away with this for so long. and why MLB waffled so badly.

dealing directly with this:
he'll have to "push off" directly from the rubber.

until recently , he pushes off from the rubber, lands, and then pushes off again from a spot about 10 inches in front of the rubber if MLB lets him do this , next we'll have guys doing 4 leaps forwards and throwing the ball from 50 feet away.

in general what MLB will begin to do is also apply this rule with runners on base.
"8.05(g) The pitcher makes any motion naturally associated with his pitch while he is not touching the pitcher’s plate;"

to prevent this guy's illegal delivery.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 30 2015 11:33 GMT
#22
lots of pitchers' pivot foot is off the rubber when the pitch is out of the guy's hand. lincecum comes to mind. and umps let those slide. but what this guy did was really distinctly a second push off.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16971 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-30 17:37:00
April 30 2015 17:06 GMT
#23
On April 30 2015 20:33 oneofthem wrote:
lots of pitchers' pivot foot is off the rubber when the pitch is out of the guy's hand. lincecum comes to mind. and umps let those slide. but what this guy did was really distinctly a second push off.


MLB Umpires let both pitchers and hitters stretch many of the existing rules. but, the rule is still there.

another example is "The batter's legal position shall be with both feet within the batter's box."
a lot of hitters back foot are not in the batters box.

so we've got pitchers releasing from a few inches off the rubber and hitters a few inches behind the batter's box.

oh the irony.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
May 19 2015 02:22 GMT
#24
Anyone have a clue what's happening in Miami? It's just weird. Is Loria crazier than we even realized?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
May 20 2015 22:33 GMT
#25
I don't know but they aren't hitting and it's annoying me, ozuna and yelich are not helping my fantasy cause
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Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
May 26 2015 04:33 GMT
#26
I'm probably gonna continue to be disappointed as a Rockies fan, but the Arenado highlight reel almost makes it worth it.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14047 Posts
May 26 2015 05:58 GMT
#27
How about those twins.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 26 2015 06:28 GMT
#28
Robinson Cano currently has the lowest WAR of all second basemen in the American League. Below even J.D. Drew. That 10-year contract feelin pretty heavy right now.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16971 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 07:03:46
May 26 2015 07:00 GMT
#29
On May 19 2015 11:22 AgentW wrote:
Anyone have a clue what's happening in Miami? It's just weird. Is Loria crazier than we even realized?


The Marlins organized a giant charity event .. they then advertised it.. then zero players showed up.
Some people have a theory that boycotting the charity event is a protest against the unusual selection of manager by the team.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2015/05/23/marlins-players-fail-to-show-up-to-meet-and-greet-fans-who-paid-100-to-attend/

Notice that the guy who got the 8 game suspension was inspected by umpires at the behest of the Marlins new manager.


Based on the giant Blue Jay trade and how Loria wiggled his way out of Montreal I'd say Loria is "crazy like a fox".
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slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
May 26 2015 07:02 GMT
#30
On May 26 2015 15:28 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Robinson Cano currently has the lowest WAR of all second basemen in the American League. Below even J.D. Drew. That 10-year contract feelin pretty heavy right now.


His power has totally dried up, it's weird. It's not like he's less patient, or chasing pitches, he just can't drive contact.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16971 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 07:22:10
May 26 2015 07:05 GMT
#31
On May 26 2015 16:02 slyboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 15:28 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Robinson Cano currently has the lowest WAR of all second basemen in the American League. Below even J.D. Drew. That 10-year contract feelin pretty heavy right now.


His power has totally dried up, it's weird. It's not like he's less patient, or chasing pitches, he just can't drive contact.


The cure for that came into widespread use in MLB in the 1980s. Steroids.

There are a bazillion hitters in MLB history whose production at 32 is substantially lower than their production at the mean peak age for hitters which is 27.5
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2011/5/31/2199146/hitter-aging-curves

With so many players on steroids people are now accustomed to players with Bonds-style production in their 30s.

The big problem here is that with a 10 year giant guaranteed contract there is no motive for Cano to use steroids.
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 26 2015 08:15 GMT
#32
Eh, I talk shit, but Cano is a professional. He'll break out of the slump, he just needs to find his batspeed again. The mariners don't need a power hitter from him, they just need a singles-doubles kind of guy (and hes really high on the doubles list this year). I think he'll be alright. And the Mariners themselves are really starting to turn themselves around.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
May 28 2015 01:21 GMT
#33
On May 26 2015 15:28 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Robinson Cano currently has the lowest WAR of all second basemen in the American League. Below even J.D. Drew. That 10-year contract feelin pretty heavy right now.

He's so bad, you're comparing him to J.D. Drew's less talented younger brother, Stephen Drew, without knowing it!
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 28 2015 01:26 GMT
#34
On May 28 2015 10:21 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 15:28 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Robinson Cano currently has the lowest WAR of all second basemen in the American League. Below even J.D. Drew. That 10-year contract feelin pretty heavy right now.

He's so bad, you're comparing him to J.D. Drew's less talented younger brother, Stephen Drew, without knowing it!

You're not wrong.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
May 28 2015 02:53 GMT
#35
Interesting that the Mets go with a 6 man rotation now, no? I say they're trying to prevent their young arms from more Tommy John episodes a la Harvey and wheeler
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
May 28 2015 03:05 GMT
#36
Yeah but it will be back to 5 sooner rather than later. One of those guys is gonna get hurt, they're SPs after all.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16971 Posts
June 02 2015 13:58 GMT
#37
On May 28 2015 11:53 Aveng3r wrote:
Interesting that the Mets go with a 6 man rotation now, no? I say they're trying to prevent their young arms from more Tommy John episodes a la Harvey and wheeler


In Japan, starters pitch 1 time per week.
should we be surprised that Yu Darvis had tommy john surgery.

Too Many Miracles....



Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
June 05 2015 00:17 GMT
#38
They gotta update the posey rule, Phillies just got robbed by the rulebook
I carve marble busts of assassinated world leaders - PM for a quote
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
June 05 2015 00:28 GMT
#39
No clue if that's the right call, but it's pretty stupid.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
June 05 2015 05:06 GMT
#40
Lighting a candle in remembrance for the Mariners 2015 season. We had high hopes.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
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