EPTNBA 2013-14 Season - Page 120
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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LuMiX
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RowdierBob
Australia13497 Posts
I can't believe after watching the Playoffs last year that the small ball + Bogut rotation doesn't get more burn. Bear with me here, but is it better to have D Lee as like a 6th man with the second unit. Bogut and Lee just aren't working well together inside and Lee's defense has just become to poor to justify him starting anymore. They need to shake something up because it's just not working. Defenses have figured out the Dubs for now and they need a shift in how they play. They're keying in on Klay+Steph and making guys like Barnes and Lee try to beat them. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
Iguodala needs to get back ASAP! Phoenix on the other hand are reaaaaalllllllly impressive to me. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13497 Posts
But the coaching rotations of MJ are lacking. He has this obsession with small ball, which is great except the Dubs' perimeter D isn't good enough. If you're going to play small ball effectively like the Heat do then you need really good perimeter D. Klay is good on the ball but gets atrociously lost off of it. Curry is Curry. He tries hard but lacks the physical gifts to be great on D (like Nash), Barnes is disappointing defensively and Lee is awful. They have two guys in Iggy and Green who are effective on the perimeter. Given Green has show he can competently shoot from range this year (>40%) is just beggars belief that Jackson doesn't play a Curry/Klay/Barnes(Iggy)/Green/Bogut lineup more often. Lee just isn't doing well enough offensively to justify his place in the rotation (particularity when he's so porous defensively). I think Jackson realises his team is better with one big in the game but he's going with the wrong one imo. | ||
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FreedomMurder
Canada200 Posts
On December 16 2013 19:46 RowdierBob wrote: The Dubs are pretty unwatchable right now. I can't believe after watching the Playoffs last year that the small ball + Bogut rotation doesn't get more burn. Bear with me here, but is it better to have D Lee as like a 6th man with the second unit. Bogut and Lee just aren't working well together inside and Lee's defense has just become to poor to justify him starting anymore. They need to shake something up because it's just not working. Defenses have figured out the Dubs for now and they need a shift in how they play. They're keying in on Klay+Steph and making guys like Barnes and Lee try to beat them. I don't think its better especially when they lost Carl Landry. I don't think they have the depth to run Lee as a 6th man consistently, who would you put in the starting lineup instead of him. Sure you could run Green or Barnes as stretch 4s but realistic when you face teams with conventional 4s you need to put Lee in there. Most teams start games playing conventional 4s then play a lot of the game with a stretch 4. So I agree that Lee should see less minutes but I disagree that he should be a 6th man. Also you mention that they don't use Bogut as the lone big enough when they run small ball. I think this is because of his injury prone nature. They don't want to put that much stress on him because they understand they will really need his post presence in the playoffs when the game slows down and you cant hit 20 3s a game. I'm sure once the playoffs roll around you will see much more of small ball + bogut. | ||
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FreedomMurder
Canada200 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17807 Posts
De Rozan is playing too well. Bench him immediately. win less than 15 games and get the over all #1 pick. This is what i'd like to see. Considering how expensive the tickets are .. and how crap the team has been for years.. Raptors fans are the "Cubs fans of basketball". | ||
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FreedomMurder
Canada200 Posts
On December 17 2013 02:03 JimmyJRaynor wrote: get rid of Lowry and bench De Rozan... De Rozan is playing too well. Bench him immediately. win less than 15 games and get the over all #1 pick. This is what i'd like to see. Considering how expensive the tickets are .. and how crap the team has been for years.. Raptors fans are the "Cubs fans of basketball". You can't just bench your best player, the NBA doesn't work like that. And if you think tickets are expensive then you don't know what stubhub is. I've been going to games for $5-20 for years. Wednesday seeing Charlotte for $3.50 lol. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
 Bench Dwayne Casey too | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On December 17 2013 02:36 FreedomMurder wrote: You can't just bench your best player, the NBA doesn't work like that. And if you think tickets are expensive then you don't know what stubhub is. I've been going to games for $5-20 for years. Wednesday seeing Charlotte for $3.50 lol. He can start suffering from plantar fasciitis. It's very painful. | ||
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FreedomMurder
Canada200 Posts
On December 17 2013 04:20 Ace wrote: I actually think Ross is gonna be better than THJ at the end of the year Bench Dwayne Casey too Ross will be better than THJ for sure, he has a ton of potential. When his shot isn't falling he looks lost on the court, when he's in heatcheck mode his overall game becomes a lot better. I'd like to see him give 100% on defence when his offensive game isn't there. Dwayne Casey would be a great defensive assistant coach but his offensive/late game play calling is terrible. I'd love to somehow get George Karl to help develop our young players. On another topic who do you guys have as your top PF in the game right now. I have Lamarcus Aldridge because of his versatility and overall game. Kevin Love is a close second but I'm not really a believer in this big men shooting 3s thing and his defence can be suspect at times. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17807 Posts
On December 17 2013 02:36 FreedomMurder wrote: You can't just bench your best player, the NBA doesn't work like that. And if you think tickets are expensive then you don't know what stubhub is. I've been going to games for $5-20 for years. Wednesday seeing Charlotte for $3.50 lol. "worst kept secret in the nba" http://www.businessinsider.com/nba-gm-admits-he-created-a-plan-for-his-team-to-tank-2013-10 i think derozan has the same neck injury as Reimer. it really is mysterious. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/why-t-nba-teams-fill-arenas-even-giving-193354981--nba.html k thx bye. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
edit: Bosh in top 5 as well. | ||
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Ace
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Blake has been very good this year, mainly on the defensive end. He isn't a sieve anymore. The Clippers were also the #1 defense for the past month, allegedly. Although their overall increase in defense does have a lot to do with him and DJ being MUCH better under Rivers, and this is with the loss of Redick and Barnes. As for Blake improving, I think he has but it's difficult to notice because he came in as such a force visualizing what he should be is damn hard. He is hitting shots from midrange which makes him an almost fully capable PnR threat, he doesn't dunk as much to get his points, and he's way, way better on the defensive end (not a beast yet, obviously). His post game is still lacking so that will always be a criticism he'll have to deal with. However what he is doing has been very good and he isn't getting a lot of credit because the team isn't winning a ton of games (injuries) and he plays with the Point God Chris Paul. | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
And LMA's efficiency isn't the same though, even though you can say he is the same player as the beginning of last season. He started off shooting poorly somewhat (looking at his numbers for past seasons), and even with a volume increase, there was still some room for him to get better. It would not have surprised me a few weeks ago if his shooting %'s were to go up somewhat (which they are now on par with his numbers last season b/c of the last 2 weeks). In fact, there was some evidence that it would. Even then, last season was still his lowest FG% in a season, though it could be attributed to factors already mentioned (increased volume, main focus of defense, usage, etc). I agree Batum and Matthews have been really hot shooting-wise. But I have to think part of the reason they get some good looks is due to the respect Aldridge commands. Some teams even have to decide if they should stick their center instead of PF on him (depending on their personnel). | ||
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FreedomMurder
Canada200 Posts
On December 17 2013 08:26 Ace wrote: LMA's been on a roll the past 2 weeks, but Portland started out hot because of Batum and Matthews. Aldridge was the hub but its not like they weren't scorching without him. LMA is pretty much the exact same player at the beginning of last year until he fizzled out later on in the season. Really, the thing with him is how long is this going to last. He's a clear All Star level talent that is rightly getting the attention he deserves, but his team's offense is doing as well as you can hope sans a Chris Paul - they're #1 in the league right now and whopping +3 over Miami's #2. Blake has been very good this year, mainly on the defensive end. He isn't a sieve anymore. The Clippers were also the #1 defense for the past month, allegedly. Although their overall increase in defense does have a lot to do with him and DJ being MUCH better under Rivers, and this is with the loss of Redick and Barnes. As for Blake improving, I think he has but it's difficult to notice because he came in as such a force visualizing what he should be is damn hard. He is hitting shots from midrange which makes him an almost fully capable PnR threat, he doesn't dunk as much to get his points, and he's way, way better on the defensive end (not a beast yet, obviously). His post game is still lacking so that will always be a criticism he'll have to deal with. However what he is doing has been very good and he isn't getting a lot of credit because the team isn't winning a ton of games (injuries) and he plays with the Point God Chris Paul. 1. LMA has improved since last year, his inside game and defence are both noticeably better. The reason Batum, Matthews and the rest of the Blazers are on fire from 3 is because you HAVE to double LMA on the block, he's a willing passer and they have great ball movement to find open shooters. 2. Dirk shouldn't be in this conversation anymore, he's a defensively liability and can't rebound like he used to. 3. Blake is great but IMO he isn't close to Love or LMA. Blake still relies to much on his athleticism to get past defenders. He needs to develop a better post game. I'll agree that he has the mid-range game but its still not on the same level as LMA or Love who can both stretch the floor better than Blake. Rebounding both LMA and Love are better than Blake. Passing wise Love is the best with Blake 2nd and LMA 3rd. Defensively I'd rank LMA 1st with Blake and Love fairly close to each other. 4. Imagine either LMA's or Love's stats playing under Doc with CP as the pg, its hard to even comprehend the work they would do. | ||
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