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Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
March 15 2013 23:14 GMT
#1241
On March 16 2013 08:12 Prog455 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 08:10 TommyP wrote:
Hmm since huk has been playing HotS wayyyy longer than Innovation has, maybe he shouldn't play it like Wol?


When was letting two Medivacs into your undefended base a good idea in WoL?


To be fair it's kinda hard to NOT let speedivacs into your base in their current state. You need some serious firepower to take them down during the brief period you'll have the opportunity to shoot at them.
TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-15 23:14:29
March 15 2013 23:14 GMT
#1242
On March 16 2013 08:13 JJH777 wrote:
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On March 16 2013 08:11 Badfatpanda wrote:
On March 16 2013 08:10 Doublemint wrote:
god he was ahead... terrible decision making by HuK - -


The commentators made it seem wayyyyyyy closer than it was for HuK. He was stuck on mass blink stalkers in his base with late as fuck colossi on 2 base against Bogus's third and map control. Not a very good spot to be in.


No.. Huk was way ahead. He had way better tech and production. Bogus's 3rd wasn't finished.


Blink = way better tech?
Vs bio T?
Vs a Kespa T?
Barcelona / Arsenal Fan!
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3396 Posts
March 15 2013 23:14 GMT
#1243
On March 16 2013 08:12 Qikz wrote:
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On March 16 2013 08:11 Asha` wrote:
On March 16 2013 08:08 Fjodorov wrote:
Is mech viable vs protoss? After all the talk about blizzards intentions and goals during the beta im hoping to see some mech vs P. Havent watched any hots untill now though so can somebody enlighten me?


From what I've seen you can do a few different builds but it's still not particularly good in the match up if P knows what they are playing against. There's a reason most KR pros are still playing bio.


Don't spread misinformation. There's plenty of mech builds you can do now.

KR pros are sticking with Bio as it's all they've played for 3 years. They've had no time to practice mech properly.

Plenty of Koreans played HotS for a while and tried to make it work.
It just sucked and lack of experience has nothing to do with it.
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
March 15 2013 23:14 GMT
#1244
I dont understand why you would ever have NO mothership core after ~5 minutes or something
mind mind mind mind mind mind
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
March 15 2013 23:14 GMT
#1245
What's a quick recap of G1? I chose to eat at the wrong moment apparently.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
March 15 2013 23:14 GMT
#1246
On March 16 2013 08:09 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 08:08 Fjodorov wrote:
Is mech viable vs protoss? After all the talk about blizzards intentions and goals during the beta im hoping to see some mech vs P. Havent watched any hots untill now though so can somebody enlighten me?


Koreans and high level pros tend to stick with bio for now. Immortals are still very good against anything mech aside from hellbats, GoOdy at the moment is tending to stick with bio as well. It's not that it's not viable it's just not as good as bio at the moment.

Not only Immortals, but Toss air is pretty amazing against it.
$♥$
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
March 15 2013 23:14 GMT
#1247
On March 16 2013 08:13 Thrillz wrote:
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On March 16 2013 08:11 Havik_ wrote:
Afterburners will likely be nerfed...


Still though, Blizzard shouldn't touch balance for at least a month, preferably two.


It might be, but that game wasn't the greatest indication of that.



Yeah, but there are no risks to dropping. Huk had to way over make Stalkers to defend and even then he only got a couple medivacs after a dozen Stalkers were out and Blink was done.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12461 Posts
March 15 2013 23:14 GMT
#1248
You're never in a "very good spot" when you have that many stalkers vs bio...
No will to live, no wish to die
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
March 15 2013 23:14 GMT
#1249
On March 16 2013 08:13 Sabu113 wrote:
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On March 16 2013 08:12 UnKooL wrote:
You know HuK isn't playing Hots when he goes robo in PvT. The standard in Hots is templar tech to defend against medivac harass with possible oracle harass after FE in to zealot, archon, high templar comp.


How do you go offensive with templar? Collosi work so much better if you're being aggressive.


You don't go offensive, you defend and win.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4418 Posts
March 15 2013 23:14 GMT
#1250
On March 16 2013 08:14 TimENT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 08:13 JJH777 wrote:
On March 16 2013 08:11 Badfatpanda wrote:
On March 16 2013 08:10 Doublemint wrote:
god he was ahead... terrible decision making by HuK - -


The commentators made it seem wayyyyyyy closer than it was for HuK. He was stuck on mass blink stalkers in his base with late as fuck colossi on 2 base against Bogus's third and map control. Not a very good spot to be in.


No.. Huk was way ahead. He had way better tech and production. Bogus's 3rd wasn't finished.


Blink = way better tech?
Vs bio T?
Vs a Kespa T?


Blink/colossi/charge
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
March 15 2013 23:14 GMT
#1251
On March 16 2013 08:13 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 08:11 Badfatpanda wrote:
On March 16 2013 08:10 Doublemint wrote:
god he was ahead... terrible decision making by HuK - -


The commentators made it seem wayyyyyyy closer than it was for HuK. He was stuck on mass blink stalkers in his base with late as fuck colossi on 2 base against Bogus's third and map control. Not a very good spot to be in.


No.. Huk was way ahead. He had way better tech and production. Bogus's 3rd wasn't finished.


That's why it floated away from 6 stalkers while holding a 40 supply lead. Tech and production mean shit if you don't have units.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
March 15 2013 23:14 GMT
#1252
--- Nuked ---
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
March 15 2013 23:14 GMT
#1253
On March 16 2013 08:13 Salient wrote:
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On March 16 2013 08:11 TimENT wrote:
Where the hell was the mothership core? Defend drops for the win?


The MSC's cannon spell wouldn't have made any difference against all that bio. It only has the DPS of a photon cannon. The bio could ignore it and kill tech/probes, or focus the nexus.

It would, what you do is let it focus the medivacs and it will be a much easier clean-up with warp-ins.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 15 2013 23:15 GMT
#1254
On March 16 2013 08:14 sparklyresidue wrote:
What's a quick recap of G1? I chose to eat at the wrong moment apparently.


HuK makes no mothership core, Bogus drops two medivacs worth of units in his main while his army is across the map doing a 2 base all in. All in gets deflected easily and HuK lost his base.
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
March 15 2013 23:15 GMT
#1255
This forum's reaction to HuK losing is one of the reasons why I am not really active on TL anymore. People get off on seeing him lose, and attempting to troll his fans.
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
March 15 2013 23:15 GMT
#1256
On March 16 2013 08:11 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 08:10 Doublemint wrote:
god he was ahead... terrible decision making by HuK - -


The commentators made it seem wayyyyyyy closer than it was for HuK. He was stuck on mass blink stalkers in his base with late as fuck colossi on 2 base against Bogus's third and map control. Not a very good spot to be in.


after he defended his natural, where he lost nothing and killed medivacs he was good to get a third and just play defensive.
he basically denied a standard timing by terran and was well off.

Moving out vs bio when you are just on colossi is pretty stupid when you are not going for the killing blow - and having a chance of actually landing the killing blow.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
March 15 2013 23:15 GMT
#1257
On March 16 2013 08:12 Prog455 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 08:10 TommyP wrote:
Hmm since huk has been playing HotS wayyyy longer than Innovation has, maybe he shouldn't play it like Wol?


When was letting two Medivacs into your undefended base a good idea in WoL?

it wasnt. i never said that. What im saying is, I dont understand why he wouldnt do something weird and use a bunch of new units
#TheOneTrueDong
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
March 15 2013 23:15 GMT
#1258
Huk had nothing but stalkers vs. bio. Cant imagine how this is being ahead.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-15 23:15:45
March 15 2013 23:15 GMT
#1259
Afterburners won't be nerfed because blizzard insists they are fantastic, fair and balanced. So much so, that they refuse to even mention it in their reports/interviews; Void Rays and Widow Mines are their focus currently.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4418 Posts
March 15 2013 23:15 GMT
#1260
On March 16 2013 08:14 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 08:13 JJH777 wrote:
On March 16 2013 08:11 Badfatpanda wrote:
On March 16 2013 08:10 Doublemint wrote:
god he was ahead... terrible decision making by HuK - -


The commentators made it seem wayyyyyyy closer than it was for HuK. He was stuck on mass blink stalkers in his base with late as fuck colossi on 2 base against Bogus's third and map control. Not a very good spot to be in.


No.. Huk was way ahead. He had way better tech and production. Bogus's 3rd wasn't finished.


That's why it floated away from 6 stalkers while holding a 40 supply lead. Tech and production mean shit if you don't have units.


He didn't get the 40 supply lead until after the drop killed a ton.
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