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lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
September 15 2012 20:46 GMT
#4321
On September 16 2012 05:45 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:41 Azarkon wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:40 Deadeight wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:37 Benjamin99 wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:35 Azarkon wrote:
The best of Europe: Spain?


Well we defiantly got an answer to the powerstruggle in Europe. I'm just very surprised that Sweden didn't manage to get a spot



I don't think Naniwa bothered to leave Korea for it. No matter what his performance was in his GSL code S group, he's still super super good. I'd place him at 2nd best foreigner probably. Sase as well is looking pretty good at the moment and I believe also didn't try for it? Not sure.


Naniwa tried, but he failed to qualify.

Naniwa has a habit of failing in these sorts of 1-3 day deals, unfortunately.


Might be more of a recent slump, but NaNiwa did fairly well at weekend tournaments during 2011 and early 2012 (consistent top MLG placings), but I think he got too much into the GSL mindset and finds it difficult to win without preparation beforehand.


He also doesn't know how to win vs zerg anymore.
elKaDor
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden376 Posts
September 15 2012 20:46 GMT
#4322
On September 16 2012 05:39 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:37 Necosarius wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:35 Azarkon wrote:
The best of Europe: Spain?

Spain is the new Sweden. It started with Dreamhack, now the skill.

We still have the hotter women though right? Right?


spanish women > sweden all days of the week
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 15 2012 20:47 GMT
#4323
On September 16 2012 05:45 Art.FeeL wrote:
I just started watching. How was the crowd today. Now it's pretty empty as far as i see


There are like 2 bars and a resturant in the venue it self, just behind and above where you see the crowd.. Alot of swedes are mourning the fall of Tzain by getting shitfaced in the bar
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 20:48:53
September 15 2012 20:47 GMT
#4324
On September 16 2012 05:43 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:42 Benjamin99 wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:40 Dodgin wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:39 4ZakeN87 wrote:
No Swed left... seems weird that no Swedish player will represent EU... being patriotic is painful sometimes. No Ukrainian either, partly because the qualification to EU finals was heavily influenced by population numbers. The fact that Sweden got 3 and Ukraine only got 2 slots while Germany had 4 players qualifying, In addition to have one player direct qualifying to World final. That is actually bullshit, Germany is well behind in the SC2 scene and should have been happy to get even equal amount of slots to Sweden or Ukraine. And to be fair it seems EU will have pretty good representation regardless.

On the other hand is the fact that NA gets even amount of slots to EU even worse. Naniwa got 4th in Sweden and was knocked out, period. While Huk got 10th in Canada and 9th in NA and still managed to go to Shanghai. Lucky for Huk that Blizzard is based in NA when the skill fails.


Yeah NA getting so many more spots kinda sucks, top EU players are so much better than top NA players outside of Scarlett.


I don't agree Dodgin. I think its very important that the NA scene is well represented.


Yep, that's why they need more spots than koreans and europeans... so they can even the field;p


What I'm trying to say is Blizzard is trying to make Starcraft into a global sport. This is a world championship and not Korea+Stephano championship

On September 16 2012 05:44 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:42 Benjamin99 wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:40 Dodgin wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:39 4ZakeN87 wrote:
No Swed left... seems weird that no Swedish player will represent EU... being patriotic is painful sometimes. No Ukrainian either, partly because the qualification to EU finals was heavily influenced by population numbers. The fact that Sweden got 3 and Ukraine only got 2 slots while Germany had 4 players qualifying, In addition to have one player direct qualifying to World final. That is actually bullshit, Germany is well behind in the SC2 scene and should have been happy to get even equal amount of slots to Sweden or Ukraine. And to be fair it seems EU will have pretty good representation regardless.

On the other hand is the fact that NA gets even amount of slots to EU even worse. Naniwa got 4th in Sweden and was knocked out, period. While Huk got 10th in Canada and 9th in NA and still managed to go to Shanghai. Lucky for Huk that Blizzard is based in NA when the skill fails.


Yeah NA getting so many more spots kinda sucks, top EU players are so much better than top NA players outside of Scarlett.


I don't agree Dodgin. I think its very important that the NA scene is well represented.


It's great for the NA players and the viewers I just don't think It's very fair to the EU players


Not fair either that Africa is taking 7 spots in the world cup in football. But its one of the reason why the World cup is amazing
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
September 15 2012 20:47 GMT
#4325
On September 16 2012 05:43 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:41 Azarkon wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:40 Deadeight wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:37 Benjamin99 wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:35 Azarkon wrote:
The best of Europe: Spain?


Well we defiantly got an answer to the powerstruggle in Europe. I'm just very surprised that Sweden didn't manage to get a spot



I don't think Naniwa bothered to leave Korea for it. No matter what his performance was in his GSL code S group, he's still super super good. I'd place him at 2nd best foreigner probably. Sase as well is looking pretty good at the moment and I believe also didn't try for it? Not sure.


Naniwa tried, but he failed to qualify.

Naniwa has a habit of failing in these sorts of 1-3 day deals, unfortunately.


I don't think Naniwa suddenly became bad at weekend tournaments, he just started slumping in general. Note how he goes 0-2 out of Code S straight into Code A round 1 as soon as the next Code S season started after going to all these foreigner tournaments and losing early.

Don't forget that Naniwa won an MLG in 2011 and got second at Providence.


Well, yeah, but I started seeing this slump from him in big international tournaments starting from one of the earlier Dreamhacks this year, back when he was still doing well in Code S. People all chucked it up to him practicing for PvT and PvP and not practicing his PvZ at the time, because those were his opponents in Code S, but it continued and he never made a tournament finals from that time on.
AngryMag
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1040 Posts
September 15 2012 20:47 GMT
#4326
Now let's see what Luci brings to the table.

Naniwa in his current shape would never ever win this event, far too many good Zergs in it
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
September 15 2012 20:47 GMT
#4327
On September 16 2012 05:46 vinsang1000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:37 Godwrath wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:36 zmansman17 wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:35 Art.FeeL wrote:
What does she mean rematch btw Stephano and Lucifron.

Vortix is incredible


What if Spanish finals?


Shocked Bisu.


I love this one


Why do I not get this, please enlighten me!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 20:48:16
September 15 2012 20:47 GMT
#4328
On September 16 2012 05:41 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:40 Deadeight wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:37 Benjamin99 wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:35 Azarkon wrote:
The best of Europe: Spain?


Well we defiantly got an answer to the powerstruggle in Europe. I'm just very surprised that Sweden didn't manage to get a spot



I don't think Naniwa bothered to leave Korea for it. No matter what his performance was in his GSL code S group, he's still super super good. I'd place him at 2nd best foreigner probably. Sase as well is looking pretty good at the moment and I believe also didn't try for it? Not sure.


Naniwa tried, but he failed to qualify.

Naniwa has a habit of failing in these sorts of 1-3 day deals, unfortunately.


Naniwa's always been difficult to predict.

His PvX openings are almost always different to whatever the current established meta-game of the day is.

Sometimes he looks among the very best players in the world, sometimes it just doesn't quite come together and he goes on a losing streak because of it.

Regardless, despite losing in Code S he didn't actually look bad, he had the right answers, just didn't execute right.

mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
September 15 2012 20:47 GMT
#4329
On September 16 2012 05:36 Daray wrote:
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On September 16 2012 05:32 moe8ius wrote:
[image loading]


So... ok... umm...

Should be one of them imo


I don't know Artosis
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
September 15 2012 20:47 GMT
#4330
On September 16 2012 05:46 elKaDor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:39 Kevan wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:37 Necosarius wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:35 Azarkon wrote:
The best of Europe: Spain?

Spain is the new Sweden. It started with Dreamhack, now the skill.

We still have the hotter women though right? Right?


spanish women > sweden all days of the week


only for men who have inferiority complex lol

Swedish long legs > Spanish anything
elKaDor
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden376 Posts
September 15 2012 20:48 GMT
#4331
On September 16 2012 05:46 lannisport wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:45 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:41 Azarkon wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:40 Deadeight wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:37 Benjamin99 wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:35 Azarkon wrote:
The best of Europe: Spain?


Well we defiantly got an answer to the powerstruggle in Europe. I'm just very surprised that Sweden didn't manage to get a spot



I don't think Naniwa bothered to leave Korea for it. No matter what his performance was in his GSL code S group, he's still super super good. I'd place him at 2nd best foreigner probably. Sase as well is looking pretty good at the moment and I believe also didn't try for it? Not sure.


Naniwa tried, but he failed to qualify.

Naniwa has a habit of failing in these sorts of 1-3 day deals, unfortunately.


Might be more of a recent slump, but NaNiwa did fairly well at weekend tournaments during 2011 and early 2012 (consistent top MLG placings), but I think he got too much into the GSL mindset and finds it difficult to win without preparation beforehand.


He also doesn't know how to win vs zerg anymore.



ye but seriously, SortOf and seiplo?

Thorzain i can understand but sweden has a lot of better players than SortOf and Seiplo T_T
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
September 15 2012 20:48 GMT
#4332
On September 16 2012 05:42 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:40 Dodgin wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:39 4ZakeN87 wrote:
No Swed left... seems weird that no Swedish player will represent EU... being patriotic is painful sometimes. No Ukrainian either, partly because the qualification to EU finals was heavily influenced by population numbers. The fact that Sweden got 3 and Ukraine only got 2 slots while Germany had 4 players qualifying, In addition to have one player direct qualifying to World final. That is actually bullshit, Germany is well behind in the SC2 scene and should have been happy to get even equal amount of slots to Sweden or Ukraine. And to be fair it seems EU will have pretty good representation regardless.

On the other hand is the fact that NA gets even amount of slots to EU even worse. Naniwa got 4th in Sweden and was knocked out, period. While Huk got 10th in Canada and 9th in NA and still managed to go to Shanghai. Lucky for Huk that Blizzard is based in NA when the skill fails.


Yeah NA getting so many more spots kinda sucks, top EU players are so much better than top NA players outside of Scarlett.


I don't agree Dodgin. I think its very important that the NA scene is well represented.



On what grounds?

EU has a population of 740 million, NA has a population of 528 million. Skill wise I'd argue they're not on par.

But then I kind of agree as a lot of the viewers and money comes from NA so.
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
September 15 2012 20:48 GMT
#4333
man everyone is out enjoying life and shit

im sitting here watching starcraft


+ Show Spoiler +
FUCK ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
<3 Kim Taeyeon
Gonlyrush22
Profile Joined September 2011
56 Posts
September 15 2012 20:49 GMT
#4334
Go Luci! Destroys Stephano like Lyn!
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
September 15 2012 20:49 GMT
#4335
dat crowd...
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
September 15 2012 20:49 GMT
#4336
On September 16 2012 05:48 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:42 Benjamin99 wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:40 Dodgin wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:39 4ZakeN87 wrote:
No Swed left... seems weird that no Swedish player will represent EU... being patriotic is painful sometimes. No Ukrainian either, partly because the qualification to EU finals was heavily influenced by population numbers. The fact that Sweden got 3 and Ukraine only got 2 slots while Germany had 4 players qualifying, In addition to have one player direct qualifying to World final. That is actually bullshit, Germany is well behind in the SC2 scene and should have been happy to get even equal amount of slots to Sweden or Ukraine. And to be fair it seems EU will have pretty good representation regardless.

On the other hand is the fact that NA gets even amount of slots to EU even worse. Naniwa got 4th in Sweden and was knocked out, period. While Huk got 10th in Canada and 9th in NA and still managed to go to Shanghai. Lucky for Huk that Blizzard is based in NA when the skill fails.


Yeah NA getting so many more spots kinda sucks, top EU players are so much better than top NA players outside of Scarlett.


I don't agree Dodgin. I think its very important that the NA scene is well represented.



On what grounds?

EU has a population of 740 million, NA has a population of 528 million. Skill wise I'd argue they're not on par.

But then I kind of agree as a lot of the viewers and money comes from NA so.


Erm how did NA get a population of 528 million.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
September 15 2012 20:49 GMT
#4337
On September 16 2012 05:48 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
man everyone is out enjoying life and shit

im sitting here watching starcraft


+ Show Spoiler +
FUCK ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Well I'm watching Starcraft and enjoying life...and shit but he got nuked.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
September 15 2012 20:50 GMT
#4338
On September 16 2012 05:48 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
man everyone is out enjoying life and shit

im sitting here watching starcraft


+ Show Spoiler +
FUCK ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT


life = starcraft, so i don't see your problem
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
September 15 2012 20:50 GMT
#4339
On September 16 2012 05:46 elKaDor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:39 Kevan wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:37 Necosarius wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:35 Azarkon wrote:
The best of Europe: Spain?

Spain is the new Sweden. It started with Dreamhack, now the skill.

We still have the hotter women though right? Right?


spanish women > sweden all days of the week

Has to be pointed out though that Sweden has very hot men. This is something that is not hyped enough, everyone goes on and on about the women. Screw that, I urge all my fellow homos to get to Stockholm now.
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 15 2012 20:50 GMT
#4340
On September 16 2012 05:49 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:48 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
man everyone is out enjoying life and shit

im sitting here watching starcraft


+ Show Spoiler +
FUCK ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Well I'm watching Starcraft and enjoying life...and shit but he got nuked.

Are you sure you're enjoying life in particular?
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