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Asymmetric
Profile Joined June 2011
Scotland1309 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 20:52:07
September 15 2012 20:50 GMT
#4341
On September 16 2012 05:48 elKaDor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:46 lannisport wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:45 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:41 Azarkon wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:40 Deadeight wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:37 Benjamin99 wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:35 Azarkon wrote:
The best of Europe: Spain?


Well we defiantly got an answer to the powerstruggle in Europe. I'm just very surprised that Sweden didn't manage to get a spot



I don't think Naniwa bothered to leave Korea for it. No matter what his performance was in his GSL code S group, he's still super super good. I'd place him at 2nd best foreigner probably. Sase as well is looking pretty good at the moment and I believe also didn't try for it? Not sure.


Naniwa tried, but he failed to qualify.

Naniwa has a habit of failing in these sorts of 1-3 day deals, unfortunately.


Might be more of a recent slump, but NaNiwa did fairly well at weekend tournaments during 2011 and early 2012 (consistent top MLG placings), but I think he got too much into the GSL mindset and finds it difficult to win without preparation beforehand.


He also doesn't know how to win vs zerg anymore.



ye but seriously, SortOf and seiplo?

Thorzain i can understand but sweden has a lot of better players than SortOf and Seiplo T_T


I don't know about that.

SortOf has bean doing pretty well recently.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
September 15 2012 20:51 GMT
#4342
On September 16 2012 05:47 Asymmetric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:41 Azarkon wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:40 Deadeight wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:37 Benjamin99 wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:35 Azarkon wrote:
The best of Europe: Spain?


Well we defiantly got an answer to the powerstruggle in Europe. I'm just very surprised that Sweden didn't manage to get a spot



I don't think Naniwa bothered to leave Korea for it. No matter what his performance was in his GSL code S group, he's still super super good. I'd place him at 2nd best foreigner probably. Sase as well is looking pretty good at the moment and I believe also didn't try for it? Not sure.


Naniwa tried, but he failed to qualify.

Naniwa has a habit of failing in these sorts of 1-3 day deals, unfortunately.


Naniwa's always been difficult to predict.

His PvX openings are almost always different to whatever the current established meta-game of the day is.

Sometimes he looks among the very best players in the world, sometimes it just doesn't quite come together and he goes on a losing streak because of it.

Regardless, despite losing in Code S he didn't actually look bad, he had the right answers, just didn't execute right.




I'd never realised that before, but now that you say it I can think of quite a few examples.
TheSwedishFan
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden608 Posts
September 15 2012 20:51 GMT
#4343
On September 16 2012 05:46 elKaDor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:39 Kevan wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:37 Necosarius wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:35 Azarkon wrote:
The best of Europe: Spain?

Spain is the new Sweden. It started with Dreamhack, now the skill.

We still have the hotter women though right? Right?


spanish women > sweden all days of the week

Agree. Mainly because i live in sweden and are so used to seing them all day and all night, if you know what i mean . You do actually get tired of that to, trust me.

Spanish women are more exotic and warm. They tend to be more down to earth as well.
"Suck it" - Kennigit 2012
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
September 15 2012 20:51 GMT
#4344
On September 16 2012 05:47 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:46 elKaDor wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:39 Kevan wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:37 Necosarius wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:35 Azarkon wrote:
The best of Europe: Spain?

Spain is the new Sweden. It started with Dreamhack, now the skill.

We still have the hotter women though right? Right?


spanish women > sweden all days of the week


only for men who have inferiority complex lol

Swedish long legs > Spanish anything


Rofl this whole Country vs Country is so stupid. The most attractive women are mixed.
Saber_Rider
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden361 Posts
September 15 2012 20:51 GMT
#4345
On September 16 2012 05:48 elKaDor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:46 lannisport wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:45 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:41 Azarkon wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:40 Deadeight wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:37 Benjamin99 wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:35 Azarkon wrote:
The best of Europe: Spain?


Well we defiantly got an answer to the powerstruggle in Europe. I'm just very surprised that Sweden didn't manage to get a spot



I don't think Naniwa bothered to leave Korea for it. No matter what his performance was in his GSL code S group, he's still super super good. I'd place him at 2nd best foreigner probably. Sase as well is looking pretty good at the moment and I believe also didn't try for it? Not sure.


Naniwa tried, but he failed to qualify.

Naniwa has a habit of failing in these sorts of 1-3 day deals, unfortunately.


Might be more of a recent slump, but NaNiwa did fairly well at weekend tournaments during 2011 and early 2012 (consistent top MLG placings), but I think he got too much into the GSL mindset and finds it difficult to win without preparation beforehand.


He also doesn't know how to win vs zerg anymore.



ye but seriously, SortOf and seiplo?

Thorzain i can understand but sweden has a lot of better players than SortOf and Seiplo T_T



Well SortOf is a good player and he almost made it! Seiplo though..it never felt like he had a chance to get top 8. He's even in school and has stated that he can't practice more than a couple of hours during weekdays so it just feels like that spot was kinda wasted...even if nani may not be in tip-top shape I'm sure he would've made further into the tournament.
FFE or die trying
RandomAccount#106470
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
September 15 2012 20:51 GMT
#4346
--- Nuked ---
M4nkind
Profile Joined December 2011
Lithuania178 Posts
September 15 2012 20:51 GMT
#4347
I cam home late and couldn't watch games up till now, what where the most epic games there? I love long turtle fests or games where people are playing like scrubs with small amounts of units mid-late game. Could some 1 recommend some games? Maybe there will be some replay pack or vods available. Don't want to miss fun moments.
Read my epic book, people: http://www.wattpad.com/story/23976849-the-business-of-time-travel
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
September 15 2012 20:52 GMT
#4348
I can't agree with the arbitrary system based on player activity to determine players per region. Just looking at these brackets, It is truly a shame so many amazing competitors are eliminated.

Thorzain, Ret, MaNa, White-Ra, SlivKo, DemusliM. This list easily comprises some of the best European players. Tough tournament....!

Other hand....RTS runs in the blood of LuCifron and his family(Vortix). LuCifron appeared seemingly out of nowhere in the competitive WC3 scene and started taking games handily off the worlds best.
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 20:52:23
September 15 2012 20:52 GMT
#4349
For some reason this song is making me sick.
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
September 15 2012 20:52 GMT
#4350
Player skill > Patriotism
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
September 15 2012 20:52 GMT
#4351
On September 16 2012 05:50 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:49 Kevan wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:48 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
man everyone is out enjoying life and shit

im sitting here watching starcraft


+ Show Spoiler +
FUCK ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Well I'm watching Starcraft and enjoying life...and shit but he got nuked.

Are you sure you're enjoying life in particular?

What do you mean exactly?
SC2, rip in pepperinos
Aando
Profile Joined August 2011
1304 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 20:53:28
September 15 2012 20:52 GMT
#4352
On September 16 2012 05:48 elKaDor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:46 lannisport wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:45 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:41 Azarkon wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:40 Deadeight wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:37 Benjamin99 wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:35 Azarkon wrote:
The best of Europe: Spain?


Well we defiantly got an answer to the powerstruggle in Europe. I'm just very surprised that Sweden didn't manage to get a spot



I don't think Naniwa bothered to leave Korea for it. No matter what his performance was in his GSL code S group, he's still super super good. I'd place him at 2nd best foreigner probably. Sase as well is looking pretty good at the moment and I believe also didn't try for it? Not sure.


Naniwa tried, but he failed to qualify.

Naniwa has a habit of failing in these sorts of 1-3 day deals, unfortunately.


Might be more of a recent slump, but NaNiwa did fairly well at weekend tournaments during 2011 and early 2012 (consistent top MLG placings), but I think he got too much into the GSL mindset and finds it difficult to win without preparation beforehand.


He also doesn't know how to win vs zerg anymore.



ye but seriously, SortOf and seiplo?

Thorzain i can understand but sweden has a lot of better players than SortOf and Seiplo T_T

Seiplo? Maybe. But SortOf? From what I've seen from him he seems pretty fucking solid. Especially compared to how many of the Swedish players has been playing as of late.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 20:52:38
September 15 2012 20:52 GMT
#4353
On September 16 2012 05:52 iSunrise wrote:
For some reason this music is making me sick.


It's because it's fucking terrible.

====

Can we start the game please TT

VAMOS LUCI
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
September 15 2012 20:52 GMT
#4354
On September 16 2012 05:52 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:50 Fusilero wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:49 Kevan wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:48 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
man everyone is out enjoying life and shit

im sitting here watching starcraft


+ Show Spoiler +
FUCK ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Well I'm watching Starcraft and enjoying life...and shit but he got nuked.

Are you sure you're enjoying life in particular?

What do you mean exactly?

We all thought you enjoyed it when they are lacking life ^_^
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
September 15 2012 20:52 GMT
#4355
Stephano hasn't dropped a game. Dat EG curse
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
September 15 2012 20:52 GMT
#4356
Grubby, Nerchio, Happy and Lowely are fighting about the last 3 spots for wcs global, right?
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
September 15 2012 20:53 GMT
#4357
On September 16 2012 05:44 Vaftrudner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:39 4ZakeN87 wrote:
No Swed left... seems weird that no Swedish player will represent EU... being patriotic is painful sometimes. No Ukrainian either, partly because the qualification to EU finals was heavily influenced by population numbers. The fact that Sweden got 3 and Ukraine only got 2 slots while Germany had 4 players qualifying, In addition to have one player direct qualifying to World final. That is actually bullshit, Germany is well behind in the SC2 scene and should have been happy to get even equal amount of slots to Sweden or Ukraine. And to be fair it seems EU will have pretty good representation regardless.

On the other hand is the fact that NA gets even amount of slots to EU even worse. Naniwa got 4th in Sweden and was knocked out, period. While Huk got 10th in Canada and 9th in NA and still managed to go to Shanghai. Lucky for Huk that Blizzard is based in NA when the skill fails.

Well, the most consistent and highly skilled Swedes have all looked rather weak this summer and autumn. Thorzain has not been in the best form, Naniwa has been in a real sluimp, SaSe too. Just a weird anti-timing for Sweden. We still have a strong scene, but no one who can perform consistently at a high international level at the moment. SortOf is probably the best Sweden has to offer right now, but he's not quite at that highest level yet.

We just have to face that having a solid scene doesn't mean that we will always be represented everywhere and we can't just expect great performances


Well logic doesn't make it less painful :' ( Well I am happy that both Nerchio and Stephano (most probably) are going to be in Shanghai to represent EU. Together with Scarlett I think they are among the few that have a realistic chance to snatch the world championship from the Koreans ^.^
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 20:56:11
September 15 2012 20:53 GMT
#4358
On September 16 2012 05:49 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 05:48 Deadeight wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:42 Benjamin99 wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:40 Dodgin wrote:
On September 16 2012 05:39 4ZakeN87 wrote:
No Swed left... seems weird that no Swedish player will represent EU... being patriotic is painful sometimes. No Ukrainian either, partly because the qualification to EU finals was heavily influenced by population numbers. The fact that Sweden got 3 and Ukraine only got 2 slots while Germany had 4 players qualifying, In addition to have one player direct qualifying to World final. That is actually bullshit, Germany is well behind in the SC2 scene and should have been happy to get even equal amount of slots to Sweden or Ukraine. And to be fair it seems EU will have pretty good representation regardless.

On the other hand is the fact that NA gets even amount of slots to EU even worse. Naniwa got 4th in Sweden and was knocked out, period. While Huk got 10th in Canada and 9th in NA and still managed to go to Shanghai. Lucky for Huk that Blizzard is based in NA when the skill fails.


Yeah NA getting so many more spots kinda sucks, top EU players are so much better than top NA players outside of Scarlett.


I don't agree Dodgin. I think its very important that the NA scene is well represented.



On what grounds?

EU has a population of 740 million, NA has a population of 528 million. Skill wise I'd argue they're not on par.

But then I kind of agree as a lot of the viewers and money comes from NA so.


Erm how did NA get a population of 528 million.

That's about... 50 million off?

ah fuck i forgot there are more than just the three main countries.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 15 2012 20:53 GMT
#4359
I hope Stephano won't fall asleep during the match.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
September 15 2012 20:53 GMT
#4360
On September 16 2012 05:51 M4nkind wrote:
I cam home late and couldn't watch games up till now, what where the most epic games there? I love long turtle fests or games where people are playing like scrubs with small amounts of units mid-late game. Could some 1 recommend some games? Maybe there will be some replay pack or vods available. Don't want to miss fun moments.


Ret vs Grubby (especially game 3) was crazy and epic.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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