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Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
August 16 2012 13:21 GMT
#1581
need vikings
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
Mosquitow
Profile Joined September 2011
England510 Posts
August 16 2012 13:21 GMT
#1582
On August 16 2012 22:20 Talin wrote:
Gosh, not every game where a slight underdog beats a slight favorite is an "upset". =/

Yea, and I don't even think ForGG is the favourite considering the low amount of experience he has in those kind of tournaments.
Vapaach
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland994 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 13:22:31
August 16 2012 13:22 GMT
#1583
Inori appears to be losing, so it seems like ForGG, Nerchio and Sortof will go through. Sick stuff ^^
If you never try you never know. Sase - Mana - TLO - WhiteRa - Naniwa - Sheth - HuK
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
August 16 2012 13:22 GMT
#1584
On August 16 2012 22:21 Poisonblack wrote:
is sc2 getting more and more random in terms of results? The favorites are losing/winning like 50% of their games against underdogs


nerchio is pretty much gsl caliber
savior did nothing wrong
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
August 16 2012 13:22 GMT
#1585
Nerchio advances now, he owes Demuslim a beer if he ends up losing to forGG.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
August 16 2012 13:22 GMT
#1586
On August 16 2012 22:17 o)_Saurus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:16 YoungTyTy wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:12 o)_Saurus wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:09 -_- wrote:
I'm really tired of hearing commentators say foreigners are catching up with Koreans. They're not. There are 5-10 foreigners who can give them games and 1-2 who can compete at the highest level. If you toss 5 Koreans into a pool of 30-40 foreigners, there will be 3 in the top 8.



So thats the reason why 2 out of 3 koreans might drop out of a group of 6 players considering Demuslim looking strong against inori?

We're talking about some of the top foreigners in a group with two code b koreans and a code a korean, it's not really the most impressive feat.


Sortof and Demuslim have become top foreigner recently?

nerchio not so recently tbh
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25468 Posts
August 16 2012 13:22 GMT
#1587
On August 16 2012 22:21 Poisonblack wrote:
is sc2 getting more and more random in terms of results? The favorites are losing/winning like 50% of their games against underdogs

ForGG is good, but Nerchio is really consistently good too. People bar the Poles underrate the guy
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
August 16 2012 13:22 GMT
#1588
Can ForGG still be eliminated?
Anta
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany434 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 13:26:40
August 16 2012 13:22 GMT
#1589
On August 16 2012 22:17 Fusilero wrote:
Nerchio has been pretty wasteful in his ZvTs today he does seem to sometimes find a way but it's rarely the efficient way

lol

he played this like a presition rifle
ForGG doesn't had any chance at any phase of the game
what was you watching?
"In short: stop bitching, change your tampons and up your game." mad respect to CloudNineLabs.com http://i.imgur.com/g5KGz.jpg ! I love Dreamhack!
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
August 16 2012 13:22 GMT
#1590
On August 16 2012 22:21 o)_Saurus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:18 YoungTyTy wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:17 o)_Saurus wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:16 YoungTyTy wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:12 o)_Saurus wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:09 -_- wrote:
I'm really tired of hearing commentators say foreigners are catching up with Koreans. They're not. There are 5-10 foreigners who can give them games and 1-2 who can compete at the highest level. If you toss 5 Koreans into a pool of 30-40 foreigners, there will be 3 in the top 8.



So thats the reason why 2 out of 3 koreans might drop out of a group of 6 players considering Demuslim looking strong against inori?

We're talking about some of the top foreigners in a group with two code b koreans and a code a korean, it's not really the most impressive feat.


Sortof and Demuslim have become top foreigner recently?

Nerchio is supposed to be.


So if 1 out of 3 is a top foreigner it is "some"? I see....
And according to the guy I first quoted there would be 5/8 koreans in top8 against ~40 foreigners -_-

We'll see how the rest of the tournament goes .
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
o)_Saurus
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany260 Posts
August 16 2012 13:23 GMT
#1591
On August 16 2012 22:21 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:12 o)_Saurus wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:09 -_- wrote:
I'm really tired of hearing commentators say foreigners are catching up with Koreans. They're not. There are 5-10 foreigners who can give them games and 1-2 who can compete at the highest level. If you toss 5 Koreans into a pool of 30-40 foreigners, there will be 3 in the top 8.



So thats the reason why 2 out of 3 koreans might drop out of a group of 6 players considering Demuslim looking strong against inori?


Lol, it's the reason Koreans went 18-2 in sets versus foreigners in the Open Bracket for this tournament with the losses being PvP.


TargA did not win?
And now you compare some top koreans to "2nd class" foreigners. Of course koreans are ahead but it's not that foreigners can't compete with them at all.
serengir
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland27 Posts
August 16 2012 13:23 GMT
#1592
This is so weird by Nerchio - he gets 2-1 by DeMu and SortOf (not to take anything from those two great players, but they werent really favourites in the group) and then wins (I hope) over Koreans - WTF?
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 16 2012 13:23 GMT
#1593
its msl
TL+ Member
shineq
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1453 Posts
August 16 2012 13:23 GMT
#1594
First time I've tuned in to the IEM, Tastosis looks WEIRD without suits or at least jackets, they seem to have them at every event they cast - GOM, MLG, even WCS.
"If you can chill, chill." - Liquid`NonY, "david some do it T>T" - SlayerSBoxeR || Twitter: http://twtter.com/shineqGAMING || http://twitch.tv/shineq
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
August 16 2012 13:24 GMT
#1595
On August 16 2012 22:22 ElephantBaby wrote:
Can ForGG still be eliminated?


No he cant , he is at 3-1, 7:3 and got first place in group
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!LL
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria256 Posts
August 16 2012 13:24 GMT
#1596
really like nerchios play so far

hope he uses burrowed banelings too
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stinger_ro
Profile Joined April 2010
90 Posts
August 16 2012 13:25 GMT
#1597
bring back peekaboo nerd :d
Wha'ts this button do ?
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 16 2012 13:25 GMT
#1598
On August 16 2012 22:22 YoungTyTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:21 o)_Saurus wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:18 YoungTyTy wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:17 o)_Saurus wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:16 YoungTyTy wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:12 o)_Saurus wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:09 -_- wrote:
I'm really tired of hearing commentators say foreigners are catching up with Koreans. They're not. There are 5-10 foreigners who can give them games and 1-2 who can compete at the highest level. If you toss 5 Koreans into a pool of 30-40 foreigners, there will be 3 in the top 8.



So thats the reason why 2 out of 3 koreans might drop out of a group of 6 players considering Demuslim looking strong against inori?

We're talking about some of the top foreigners in a group with two code b koreans and a code a korean, it's not really the most impressive feat.


Sortof and Demuslim have become top foreigner recently?

Nerchio is supposed to be.


So if 1 out of 3 is a top foreigner it is "some"? I see....
And according to the guy I first quoted there would be 5/8 koreans in top8 against ~40 foreigners -_-

We'll see how the rest of the tournament goes .

Of course Koreans are better. But imo its already pretty amazing that foreigners can even compete with them.

I feel like people not even being that amazed about a foreigner winning is an indication of how much more respected they are now.
Off-season = best season
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
August 16 2012 13:25 GMT
#1599
On August 16 2012 22:22 EleanorRIgby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:21 Poisonblack wrote:
is sc2 getting more and more random in terms of results? The favorites are losing/winning like 50% of their games against underdogs


nerchio is pretty much gsl caliber


I like Nerchio but he is not GSL caliber.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
August 16 2012 13:26 GMT
#1600
On August 16 2012 22:23 o)_Saurus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:21 Heavenlee wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:12 o)_Saurus wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:09 -_- wrote:
I'm really tired of hearing commentators say foreigners are catching up with Koreans. They're not. There are 5-10 foreigners who can give them games and 1-2 who can compete at the highest level. If you toss 5 Koreans into a pool of 30-40 foreigners, there will be 3 in the top 8.



So thats the reason why 2 out of 3 koreans might drop out of a group of 6 players considering Demuslim looking strong against inori?


Lol, it's the reason Koreans went 18-2 in sets versus foreigners in the Open Bracket for this tournament with the losses being PvP.


TargA did not win?
And now you compare some top koreans to "2nd class" foreigners. Of course koreans are ahead but it's not that foreigners can't compete with them at all.


I disagree. But we'll have to wait and see, I suppose. While this tournament won't prove anything in itself, it will be interesting to see if a Korean wins this tournament, and their representation in the top 3, 5, and 8 considering they compose less than half the field in this tournament.
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