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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 16 2012 13:26 GMT
#1601
On August 16 2012 22:23 serengir wrote:
This is so weird by Nerchio - he gets 2-1 by DeMu and SortOf (not to take anything from those two great players, but they werent really favourites in the group) and then wins (I hope) over Koreans - WTF?

European defensiveness can sometimes match up better against Korean aggression, like nerchio is very good at defending while forGG is an ultra aggressive/ borderline cheesy madman so nerchio matches up well to forGG.
Glorious SEA doto
SilentSC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United States505 Posts
August 16 2012 13:26 GMT
#1602
Fuck... inori lost. Fuck.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
August 16 2012 13:26 GMT
#1603
Time out.

Why am I getting ads on TL for DryNites and a Filipino dating site? What on earth have we actually wrote in this LR?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
August 16 2012 13:26 GMT
#1604
Hope Nerchio wins this group. Or SortOf.
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
August 16 2012 13:26 GMT
#1605
DeMuslim wins vs Inori!
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
pyrXx
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany156 Posts
August 16 2012 13:27 GMT
#1606
On August 16 2012 22:21 laundrycat wrote:
Does anyone know the music that plays during that segment where it's that woman holding up the Blue Flare to lead the Trophy down to Earth, going into the IEM winners?


Mark Petrie - Polar Shift (Epic Choral Action)
AzoriuS
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland74 Posts
August 16 2012 13:27 GMT
#1607
On August 16 2012 22:25 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:22 YoungTyTy wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:21 o)_Saurus wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:18 YoungTyTy wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:17 o)_Saurus wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:16 YoungTyTy wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:12 o)_Saurus wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:09 -_- wrote:
I'm really tired of hearing commentators say foreigners are catching up with Koreans. They're not. There are 5-10 foreigners who can give them games and 1-2 who can compete at the highest level. If you toss 5 Koreans into a pool of 30-40 foreigners, there will be 3 in the top 8.



So thats the reason why 2 out of 3 koreans might drop out of a group of 6 players considering Demuslim looking strong against inori?

We're talking about some of the top foreigners in a group with two code b koreans and a code a korean, it's not really the most impressive feat.


Sortof and Demuslim have become top foreigner recently?

Nerchio is supposed to be.


So if 1 out of 3 is a top foreigner it is "some"? I see....
And according to the guy I first quoted there would be 5/8 koreans in top8 against ~40 foreigners -_-

We'll see how the rest of the tournament goes .

Of course Koreans are better. But imo its already pretty amazing that foreigners can even compete with them.

I feel like people not even being that amazed about a foreigner winning is an indication of how much more respected they are now.



I 100% agree. Winning vs Korean is a big deal no matter what. They always will be ahead of foreigners.
Sp00ly
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1546 Posts
August 16 2012 13:27 GMT
#1608
On August 16 2012 22:26 Psyclon wrote:
DeMuslim wins vs Inori!


I think he's still out though?
shineq
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1453 Posts
August 16 2012 13:27 GMT
#1609
On August 16 2012 22:26 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Time out.

Why am I getting ads on TL for DryNites and a Filipino dating site? What on earth have we actually wrote in this LR?


It's mostly based on your web search history, not just the stuff in the thread.
"If you can chill, chill." - Liquid`NonY, "david some do it T>T" - SlayerSBoxeR || Twitter: http://twtter.com/shineqGAMING || http://twitch.tv/shineq
dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
August 16 2012 13:27 GMT
#1610
Uhhh the OP doesnt say which stream streams what

Can someone tell me whos playing now?
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
August 16 2012 13:28 GMT
#1611
On August 16 2012 22:24 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:22 ElephantBaby wrote:
Can ForGG still be eliminated?


No he cant , he is at 3-1, 7:3 and got first place in group


The group isn't over and if Nerchio beats him 2-0, Nerchio passes him.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7312 Posts
August 16 2012 13:28 GMT
#1612
On August 16 2012 22:27 shineq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:26 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Time out.

Why am I getting ads on TL for DryNites and a Filipino dating site? What on earth have we actually wrote in this LR?


It's mostly based on your web search history, not just the stuff in the thread.


Oh my.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
August 16 2012 13:28 GMT
#1613
What is the tiebreak rule if two players have the same game score?
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
August 16 2012 13:28 GMT
#1614
On August 16 2012 22:27 shineq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:26 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Time out.

Why am I getting ads on TL for DryNites and a Filipino dating site? What on earth have we actually wrote in this LR?


It's mostly based on your web search history, not just the stuff in the thread.


It's all sc2 related. I swear.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
August 16 2012 13:28 GMT
#1615
On August 16 2012 22:26 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:23 o)_Saurus wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:21 Heavenlee wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:12 o)_Saurus wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:09 -_- wrote:
I'm really tired of hearing commentators say foreigners are catching up with Koreans. They're not. There are 5-10 foreigners who can give them games and 1-2 who can compete at the highest level. If you toss 5 Koreans into a pool of 30-40 foreigners, there will be 3 in the top 8.



So thats the reason why 2 out of 3 koreans might drop out of a group of 6 players considering Demuslim looking strong against inori?


Lol, it's the reason Koreans went 18-2 in sets versus foreigners in the Open Bracket for this tournament with the losses being PvP.


TargA did not win?
And now you compare some top koreans to "2nd class" foreigners. Of course koreans are ahead but it's not that foreigners can't compete with them at all.


I disagree. But we'll have to wait and see, I suppose. While this tournament won't prove anything in itself, it will be interesting to see if a Korean wins this tournament, and their representation in the top 3, 5, and 8 considering they compose less than half the field in this tournament.

I'm impressed by how well foreigners are doing as well, I think it's getting closer, but it's still like with table tennis and China. Maybe a few can compete at the highest level but it's still a lot more of one nation than everyone else competing at the top.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 16 2012 13:28 GMT
#1616
On August 16 2012 22:27 shineq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:26 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Time out.

Why am I getting ads on TL for DryNites and a Filipino dating site? What on earth have we actually wrote in this LR?


It's mostly based on your web search history, not just the stuff in the thread.

Is there something you're not telling us alternativego?
Glorious SEA doto
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 16 2012 13:29 GMT
#1617
On August 16 2012 22:28 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:24 pallad wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:22 ElephantBaby wrote:
Can ForGG still be eliminated?


No he cant , he is at 3-1, 7:3 and got first place in group


The group isn't over and if Nerchio beats him 2-0, Nerchio passes him.


Well, he can't be eliminated tho. He is top 3 for sure.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
August 16 2012 13:29 GMT
#1618
On August 16 2012 22:26 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Time out.

Why am I getting ads on TL for DryNites and a Filipino dating site? What on earth have we actually wrote in this LR?


HAHA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_targeting
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
August 16 2012 13:29 GMT
#1619
On August 16 2012 22:27 Sp00ly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:26 Psyclon wrote:
DeMuslim wins vs Inori!


I think he's still out though?


More importantly, he regained his world champion title.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25468 Posts
August 16 2012 13:29 GMT
#1620
On August 16 2012 22:26 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:23 serengir wrote:
This is so weird by Nerchio - he gets 2-1 by DeMu and SortOf (not to take anything from those two great players, but they werent really favourites in the group) and then wins (I hope) over Koreans - WTF?

European defensiveness can sometimes match up better against Korean aggression, like nerchio is very good at defending while forGG is an ultra aggressive/ borderline cheesy madman so nerchio matches up well to forGG.

This is a pretty good assessment. European PvZ especially is a good one to look at, most foreigners either 2 base-allin, or try to take it to the lategame but execute the latter worse than Koreans. Hence players like Nerchio and Stephano are pretty robust against 2 base play, but also get a lot of experience in playing out lategame situations
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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