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FreudianTrip
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Sein
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fakgfdgfdh
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On August 17 2012 04:26 CosmicSpiral wrote: Well, no shit. But that's not his point at all. lol, how could that possibly not be my point, thats exactly what i said, that you made a useless comment that said nothing. then you actually repeated it. and now i find out you actually think that it wasnt my point On August 17 2012 04:33 CosmicSpiral wrote: And where does this hypothetical scenario ever fit into the conversation? He started an argument with someone else over a casting complaint, not the handicap on a website like Pinnacle Sports. Then I stated that I bet on Nerchio, he stated that the decision was not a smart one, and I disagreed. probably fits into where you bragged about making 65% "correct" bets and how nonsense that statement is On August 17 2012 05:05 CosmicSpiral wrote: I am correct for the majority of my bets, and make a good ROI off of them. That's all there is to say. what there is to say is that your statement was nonsense On August 17 2012 05:05 CosmicSpiral wrote: Admitting a mistake in my betting on this particular event. you didnt bet that innori would come in 2-3 and thats not how a mistake is judged On August 17 2012 05:05 CosmicSpiral wrote: As the WCS is demonstrating, reputation alone can cause opponents to straight-up lose and make dumb mistakes. proof? On August 17 2012 05:05 CosmicSpiral wrote:But most betting odds are directly based on reputation, which I bothered to bring it up in the first place. they are based on how likely someone judges a player to win is | ||
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NexUmbra
Scotland3776 Posts
On August 17 2012 05:28 Dexington wrote: If Demuslim had won that super close game 3 against SortOf, he'd be through and SortOf wouldn't. He was so close to winning that game you can sort of say that he is there. | ||
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Bagration
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On August 17 2012 07:38 fakgfdgfdh wrote: lol, how could that possibly not be my point, thats exactly what i said, that you made a useless comment that said nothing. then you actually repeated it. and now i find out you actually think that it wasnt my point A useless comment in response to a useless point that I already know very well. The real question is, why did you assume that I didn't know that odds can be different for different players (WOW WHAT A DISCOVERY) in the first place? Any betting man worth his salt knows that prediction rate is directly correlated with ROI, even if odds vary wildly from an ideal 1:1 (and that includes vigorish too). It is almost impossible to lose money with a 65% prediction rate unless A. You bet the same amount of money on every single bet and only bet on heavily favored players. B. You consistently bet a disproportionately large amount of money on heavily favored players and small amounts on the underdogs. On August 17 2012 04:57 fakgfdgfdh wrote: you didnt bet that innori would come in 2-3 and thats not how a mistake is judged I bet that Nerchio, ForGG, and Inori would advance past the bracket. Since Inori did not advance past the bracket, I lost money. This is what ordinary people call a mistake. On August 17 2012 07:38 fakgfdgfdh wrote: what there is to say is that your statement was nonsense I've already disproved your silly statement. On August 17 2012 04:57 fakgfdgfdh wrote: proof? "I felt like if I were playing against another GSL player, the pressure would have been lesser." -Gumiho after Winners Round 1 match vs Soulkey "There are many Kespa players in the group, and that makes me stressed." - Puzzle after Winners Round 2 match "KeSPA players have a lot more televised match experiences than GSL players. So I think they are better experts at performing for televised matches than us." -Creator after Winners Round 2 match "I don't know if I'm simple or what but I didn't think that way. For some reason I seem to be less nervous for my WCS games than my ProLeague games. I felt like I had nothing to lose from playing against people who were better to begin with but I'm playing against GSL players like this during the WCS with a calm mind." - herO[join] after Losers Round 1 match The game had a lot of shakes and turns. It seems that when KeSPA players go up against GSL players, the KeSPA players have the advantage. GSL players' burden of losing to KeSPA players is heavy so if it goes all the way to the third game, that burden gets even heavier. In my case, I was able to play peacefully so I think I was able to make a comeback. - Jaedong after Losers Round 1 match "Truth be told, it feels like the GSL players are playing worse than usual, rather than me being better than them. I'm even beating players that I never thought I would when I was watching their matches." - Jaedong after Losers Round 2 match On August 17 2012 07:38 fakgfdgfdh wrote: they are based on how likely someone judges a player to win is And most of the time said judgments are made from incomplete information. This makes upsets seem random when many of them are predictable. Go ahead and keeping my jock over the imaginary deficiencies you see in me. That will only confirm your fraudulence to everyone who reads your posts. You talk big when you can criticize non-existent flaws you create on the spot, just like any person who isn't worth their salt in a straight conversation. | ||
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IcedBacon
Canada906 Posts
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AxionSteel
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On August 17 2012 13:36 AxionSteel wrote: Nestea will be coaching a KESPA team within a year IMO. Team 8 and IM will join up called LG IM8 ! Nestea will coach the dong and Losira. MVP will form Baby into a "consistent" multitasking machine sc2 has not seen yet. Ah a man can dream  | ||
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TsGBruzze
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fakgfdgfdh
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On August 17 2012 10:02 CosmicSpiral wrote:A useless comment in response to a useless point that I already know very well. you said that you have 65% correct bets as if it would have any meaning, i correct you because your comment was stupid and useless. you made no appearence that you knew that. On August 17 2012 10:02 CosmicSpiral wrote:The real question is, why did you assume that I didn't know that odds can be different for different players (WOW WHAT A DISCOVERY) in the first place? i probably assumed that because of you barging in and seemingly making a bragging post about having 65% of bets going in (WOW WHAT A CHILD GENIUS) On August 14 2012 03:24 CosmicSpiral wrote: I am extremely jelly. I wish I had money to travel. -_- or what do you think? On August 17 2012 10:02 CosmicSpiral wrote:Any betting man worth his salt knows that prediction rate is directly correlated with ROI all profitable betters tend to have his average bet be just about 2.0? or youre someone who tends to weigh on one of the sides, be someone who mainly plays a type of bet with a low output such as handicaps, or play futures On August 17 2012 10:02 CosmicSpiral wrote:even if odds vary wildly from an ideal 1:1 (and that includes vigorish too). It is almost impossible to lose money with a 65% prediction rate unless A. You bet the same amount of money on every single bet and only bet on heavily favored players. oh, you have to bet the same amount of money on every bet? On August 17 2012 10:02 CosmicSpiral wrote:B. You consistently bet a disproportionately large amount of money on heavily favored players and small amounts on the underdogs. how about the opposit? On August 17 2012 10:02 CosmicSpiral wrote: I bet that Nerchio, ForGG, and Inori would advance past the bracket. Since Inori did not advance past the bracket, I lost money. This is what ordinary people call a mistake. i thought we were talking about bookmaker bets here. youre correct, thats what ordinary people call a mistake. thats not what a mistake is though On August 17 2012 10:02 CosmicSpiral wrote: I've already disproved your silly statement. where was that [QUOTE]On August 17 2012 10:02 CosmicSpiral wrote:[QUOTE][QUOTE]On August 17 2012 04:57 fakgfdgfdh wrote: proof?[/QUOTE] "I felt like if I were playing against another GSL player, the pressure would have been lesser." -Gumiho after Winners Round 1 match vs Soulkey[/QUOTE] he doesent say that reputation caused him to play worse. hes also a person having to interpret his play and compare in his head how he would have played otherwise and then makes an interview where hes allowed to say whatever he wants. he doesent state the effect of the pressure [QUOTE]On August 17 2012 10:02 CosmicSpiral wrote:[QUOTE]"There are many Kespa players in the group, and that makes me stressed." [/QUOTE] he mentions nothing about reputation causing him to make mistakes and straight up lose [QUOTE]On August 17 2012 10:02 CosmicSpiral wrote:[QUOTE]"KeSPA players have a lot more televised match experiences than GSL players. So I think they are better experts at performing for televised matches than us." -Creator after Winners Round 2 match[/QUOTE] he mentions nothing about reputation causing him to make mistakes and straight up lose [QUOTE]On August 17 2012 10:02 CosmicSpiral wrote:[QUOTE]"I don't know if I'm simple or what but I didn't think that way. For some reason I seem to be less nervous for my WCS games than my ProLeague games. I felt like I had nothing to lose from playing against people who were better to begin with but I'm playing against GSL players like this during the WCS with a calm mind."[/QUOTE] this is not even from the right side [QUOTE]On August 17 2012 10:02 CosmicSpiral wrote:[QUOTE]The game had a lot of shakes and turns. It seems that when KeSPA players go up against GSL players, the KeSPA players have the advantage. GSL players' burden of losing to KeSPA players is heavy so if it goes all the way to the third game, that burden gets even heavier. In my case, I was able to play peacefully so I think I was able to make a comeback. [/QUOTE] opinions of one game where one opponent thinks the other played below his average [QUOTE]On August 17 2012 10:02 CosmicSpiral wrote:[QUOTE][QUOTE]On August 17 2012 07:38 fakgfdgfdh wrote: they are based on how likely someone judges a player to win is [/QUOTE] And most of the time said judgments are made from incomplete information. This makes upsets seem random when many of them are predictable.[/QUOTE] the odds are based on how likely someone judges a player to win is, which in turn is based on an incredible amount of potential things, not "directly based on reputation" [QUOTE]On August 17 2012 10:02 CosmicSpiral wrote:[QUOTE][QUOTE][B]Go ahead and keeping my jock over the imaginary deficiencies you see in me. That will only confirm your fraudulence to everyone who reads your posts. You talk big when you can criticize non-existent flaws you create on the spot, just like any person who isn't worth their salt in a straight conversation.[/QUOTE] yeah youre completely defiency free. and look whos talking big with his fancy words, but you can only come up with false things for so long before you get called out. you think youre a hotshot better with 1900 bets. perhaps if you didnt have basic flaws in your betting theory, actually had a 30%roi, and made 1900 bets with it, you could afford a ticket to europe. and what a nice forum this is, seen countless of posts less rude than this get banned, and i can only imagine how many other times youve done this | ||
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