Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.
TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.
On October 23 2011 05:35 wats0n wrote: Nestea used Nerchio style in game 2. Same build order and everything.
Yea, I used Nerchio style to I guess cause I roach all in after 16 drones.... which is a standard all in. So I guess all the Zergs in the world all have Nerchio style to use when they wanna all in.
Guys (for everyone responding like you) learn to spot sarcasm...
Just the same as Ling/Infestor not being the "Stephano" build. He may play that style but it doesn't mean he owns it, which is why its annoying to hear commentators like Day9 throwing it out there.
I agree, ling/infestor was invented by Destiny actually.
actually it was used in the beta before muta/bling came into popularity.
He did not invent it. He was not the first pro player that used it. Players in the beta used similar strategies But that's not really the point. The point is that Stephano was the one that showed that this strategy was still viable against top players at this point of the game. This do not imply that Nestea surely copied him, but it is possible that Nestea reconsidered this strategy after ipl3...
Considering Nestea used this exact strat and build against MVP in the ro8 of GSL a single day after IPL3 ended I highly doubt that. I highly doubt he even watched those games until after his match (if at all) he was definitely busy training to beat MVP.
On October 23 2011 06:00 imareaver3 wrote: Sen qualified for Blizzard cup, right?
I dont think so only the winner of blizzcon and IGN 3 and the last MLG do I think
The likely winner (and runnerup) have already qualified, though. So does Sen qualify even if he gets third place?
i think the only knowledge for this case we have is, "we will pick suitable replacements." That may mean they give this blizzcon spot to sen or maybe it means they will choose GSL code point standing #3 and give the blizzcon spot to Nestea/Mvp.
They haven't clarified beyond that ambiguous statement to my knowledge.
On October 23 2011 06:00 imareaver3 wrote: Sen qualified for Blizzard cup, right?
I dont think so only the winner of blizzcon and IGN 3 and the last MLG do I think
Well if IMMVP and Nestea retain their top 2 spot in GSL (which is likely) the seed that is given for winning Blizzcon will be transferred down to the most eligiable candidate.
On October 23 2011 05:48 Lasbike wrote: David Kim plays Random at Grandmaster level oO ?
Waw... He knows about his game.
Come on man, think.
He plays Random, its his fault close positions is still in the game, he says he doesn't think scouting and rushes is a problem.
He's the heaviest cheeser on the planet.
How do you know how he plays? im pretty sure he plays random because hes job IS TO UNDERSTAND THE BALANCE of the game..... and i belive he was a b+ on iccup not sure what time but thats enought to be able to understand sc2 to the point that u dont have to be a cheeser when playing random
I understood them not showing a bunch of the matches yesterday... but how could they not show the match that determines top 3 and who the last person is to get knocked out before the money.... da fuck?
On October 23 2011 06:07 Darth Caedus wrote: I understood them not showing a bunch of the matches yesterday... but how could they not show the match that determines top 3 and who the last person is to get knocked out before the money.... da fuck?
On October 23 2011 06:00 imareaver3 wrote: Sen qualified for Blizzard cup, right?
I dont think so only the winner of blizzcon and IGN 3 and the last MLG do I think
Well if IMMVP and Nestea retain their top 2 spot in GSL (which is likely) the seed that is given for winning Blizzcon will be transferred down to the most eligiable candidate.
Who is to say they don't move down the GSL point standings and just give the winner of Blizzcon the blizzcon entrance.
On October 23 2011 06:02 cyclone25 wrote: Sen has no chance vs Mvp Naniwa on the other hand looked very strong this tournament. Sen winning vs Naniwa killed eSports.
Had Mvp been on his game Sen's and Naniwa's chance to beat him would've been exactly the same. But considering Mvp lost a GSL finals earlier today and isn't playing his best, I'd say Sen has a better chance at taking him down.
On October 23 2011 06:07 Darth Caedus wrote: I understood them not showing a bunch of the matches yesterday... but how could they not show the match that determines top 3 and who the last person is to get knocked out before the money.... da fuck?
they didn't show the winners semis yesterday... and you understand that? o.O
On October 23 2011 05:48 Lasbike wrote: David Kim plays Random at Grandmaster level oO ?
Waw... He knows about his game.
Come on man, think.
He plays Random, its his fault close positions is still in the game, he says he doesn't think scouting and rushes is a problem.
He's the heaviest cheeser on the planet.
How do you know how he plays? im pretty sure he plays random because hes job IS TO UNDERSTAND THE BALANCE of the game..... and i belive he was a b+ on iccup not sure what time but thats enought to be able to understand sc2 to the point that u dont have to be a cheeser when playing random
I'm not going to argue balance. But I wanted to point out that playing random makes it so that different openings have to be used against you and certain aggressive openings just are too risky for people to try if you're random; this leads IMO to an incomplete understanding of the game or at least the very beginnings of the game.
Playing as each race a third of the time instead of random would probably be more effective though.
On October 23 2011 06:02 cyclone25 wrote: Sen has no chance vs Mvp Naniwa on the other hand looked very strong this tournament. Sen winning vs Naniwa killed eSports.
Had Mvp been on his game Sen's and Naniwa's chance to beat him would've been exactly the same. But considering Mvp lost a GSL finals earlier today and isn't playing his best, I'd say Sen has a better chance at taking him down.
On October 23 2011 05:43 Tt|FaZiNaTe wrote: Can someone from BLIZZARD please tell me WHY they show the 2 Quarters between Naniwa/Dimaga and Sen/Select. ................
AND NOT only ONE game of Quarters and then the MATCH SEN vs NANIWA????? WTF is this... There is just no reason to NOT show Nani vs Sen..... its a big Blizzard tournament Schedule Fault... after all the great tournaments like MLG/IPL3 this one is the worst in terms of Matches showns.
FaZi
Because they only have 1 stage. They can only show one game and follow the schedule. Sorry this is not SC2con,there is so much they can reasonably show.
Exactly, they need to show the trivia questions for a full hour so there's really no time to squeeze a game in.
The people attending Blizzcon are probably there for the other events aswell, making the games not go by schedule would make a lot of people miss games...
thank you for being reasonable.... i swear TL and especially reddit, is being pretty crazy about blizzcon whining
So the two biggest Starcraft2 communities are "whining" because they feel the tournament is being run poorly? We did plenty of "whining" about MLG too and look what happened since... they put on probably the two best events of the year. Sometimes people need to know when they fuck up.
This is not even close to a fuck up, they are adhearing to a strict schedule of one game every 90 minutes, this is probably due to the way they want the schedule to be. They want it so people at blizzcon can watch a game, go do other things at hte convention, then go back at that exact time to watch the game. Not to mention that there's other reasons, being that the tournament is only one of the smallest fractions of what blizzcon is about. It also seemed like they chose games that tried to span the different countries they tried to cover, but of course people won't see that.
On October 23 2011 06:00 imareaver3 wrote: Sen qualified for Blizzard cup, right?
I dont think so only the winner of blizzcon and IGN 3 and the last MLG do I think
The likely winner (and runnerup) have already qualified, though. So does Sen qualify even if he gets third place?
It should be Sen invited, yes.
they say "suitable replacements". they don't say "whoever was next best in tournament x/y/z that mvp won". depends if they want to have a foreign slant or not, they could just easily invite next best on the gsl rankings (mma/polt?)
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