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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.

TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.

- p4NDemik
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
October 22 2011 21:14 GMT
#2161
On October 23 2011 06:13 habbey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:10 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On October 23 2011 06:07 TheBB wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:54 redloser wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:52 cyclone25 wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:50 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:48 ZAiNs wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:47 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:45 ThisGS wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:42 meowmeow- wrote:
So since Nestea has won Blizzcon and MVP didn't win GSL Oct., can you call them being evenly good again?


nestea won blizzcon? you from the future, sir?
Obviously Sen/Naniwa have 0% chance of beating Nestea in a series.

Naniwa and BratOK both took a game off him in group stage.
Anyone can take a game but when it comes to a BO5/7 it's 0% chance for them.


All games are bo3, the only exception is the overall final where the player coming from the lower bracket has to win 2x bo3.


winning two consecutive Bo3's against Nestea would be harder than winning a single Bo5 I think :/

I ran the numbers. Two consecutive Bo3's are actually easier to win.

How? If you want to win two consecutive bo3s it's like winning a bo7 except you have to win by 4-2 at least.

That guy is a troll.

I'm actually just wrong. See above.

Get a new detector.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Roynalf
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland886 Posts
October 22 2011 21:14 GMT
#2162
On October 23 2011 06:07 TooN wrote:
There has never been a LR thread with no whining..

This is a fact.

There would have been IPL 3 LR, but Randy fucked up
(V) (;,,;) (V) Woopwoopwoopwoop
F u r u y a
Profile Joined August 2010
Brazil173 Posts
October 22 2011 21:14 GMT
#2163
On October 23 2011 06:13 Supdude wrote:
Picture of the Top 3 players!

[image loading]

Sen in the middle *rolleyes*
AxiR
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany944 Posts
October 22 2011 21:15 GMT
#2164
On October 23 2011 06:10 Darth Caedus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:09 Ryuu2 wrote:
On October 23 2011 06:07 Darth Caedus wrote:
I understood them not showing a bunch of the matches yesterday... but how could they not show the match that determines top 3 and who the last person is to get knocked out before the money.... da fuck?

they didn't show the winners semis yesterday... and you understand that? o.O



Did I just get hate for not hating on Blizz hard enough?

hate? where did i hate on you :D? did the o.O smily seem evil? no, i just don't see you point...
i cant see any reason to skip nani vs nestea and mvp vs select (the winners semis) ..
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
October 22 2011 21:15 GMT
#2165
On October 23 2011 06:14 Roynalf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:07 TooN wrote:
There has never been a LR thread with no whining..

This is a fact.

There would have been IPL 3 LR, but Randy fucked up


im sure there was some whining when the internet got taken out by MLG employees in a truck.... /troll
sharktopus.
Profile Joined April 2011
United States456 Posts
October 22 2011 21:15 GMT
#2166
so naniwa lost already?
OTIX
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden491 Posts
October 22 2011 21:15 GMT
#2167
Don't be mad guys, how about some religion to pass the time?

http://www.livestream.com/carmellive
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
October 22 2011 21:15 GMT
#2168
On October 23 2011 06:15 sharktopus. wrote:
so naniwa lost already?

Yup.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
iFlow
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3 Posts
October 22 2011 21:16 GMT
#2169
So... basically people are saying they like extended series ONLY if it helps the players they root for. Maybe I'm just being silly...
AxiR
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany944 Posts
October 22 2011 21:16 GMT
#2170
On October 23 2011 06:15 sharktopus. wrote:
so naniwa lost already?

yep 2:1
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
October 22 2011 21:16 GMT
#2171
On October 23 2011 06:12 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:10 Titorelli wrote:
Wow Sen is THAT good?? After all huk predicted him to win on SOTG


and he has arguably worse training overall than the koreans and most foreigners he has beaten so far


Yeah, probably. He doesn't speak Korean AFAIK, and that means even though he practices with people like Losira it's doubtful that he can really converse with them about strategies and tactics, and his own teammates aren't that good, so most of it is just him hammering games out on the ladder - pretty impressive.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
October 22 2011 21:16 GMT
#2172
On October 23 2011 06:15 OTIX wrote:
Don't be mad guys, how about some religion to pass the time?

http://www.livestream.com/carmellive


good idea, i'll go listen to some brother mack to pass the time.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 21:17:09
October 22 2011 21:16 GMT
#2173
On October 23 2011 06:16 iFlow wrote:
So... basically people are saying they like extended series ONLY if it helps the players they root for. Maybe I'm just being silly...


You also missed the part of a mass exodus of viewers leaving just because their favorite player lost.....
AxiR
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany944 Posts
October 22 2011 21:17 GMT
#2174
On October 23 2011 06:16 iFlow wrote:
So... basically people are saying they like extended series ONLY if it helps the players they root for. Maybe I'm just being silly...

people are biased towards players they cheer for?
HOLY SMOKES!
MisterTea
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1047 Posts
October 22 2011 21:17 GMT
#2175
On October 23 2011 06:15 OTIX wrote:
Don't be mad guys, how about some religion to pass the time?

http://www.livestream.com/carmellive

no
Roynalf
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland886 Posts
October 22 2011 21:17 GMT
#2176
DRG vs some Terran here
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/compLexityGaming
(V) (;,,;) (V) Woopwoopwoopwoop
darlhet
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy548 Posts
October 22 2011 21:17 GMT
#2177
On October 23 2011 06:16 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:12 zev318 wrote:
On October 23 2011 06:10 Titorelli wrote:
Wow Sen is THAT good?? After all huk predicted him to win on SOTG


and he has arguably worse training overall than the koreans and most foreigners he has beaten so far


Yeah, probably. He doesn't speak Korean AFAIK, and that means even though he practices with people like Losira it's doubtful that he can really converse with them about strategies and tactics, and his own teammates aren't that good, so most of it is just him hammering games out on the ladder - pretty impressive.
ye on his stream he ofter plays some epic ladder games
"i feel like im wasting your time" qxc to whitera after getting crushed 0-4
Marke
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden279 Posts
October 22 2011 21:17 GMT
#2178
WOOOOW GJ blizzard. Lets take 1 hour break and not stream 80% of the matches in a 18 players tournament...

This is worse then MLG...
Det är inte lätt när det är svårt
ThisGS
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany255 Posts
October 22 2011 21:18 GMT
#2179
this tournament makes me fall asleep.
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
October 22 2011 21:18 GMT
#2180
On October 23 2011 06:12 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:08 Koshi wrote:
On October 23 2011 06:07 TheBB wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:54 redloser wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:52 cyclone25 wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:50 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:48 ZAiNs wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:47 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:45 ThisGS wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:42 meowmeow- wrote:
So since Nestea has won Blizzcon and MVP didn't win GSL Oct., can you call them being evenly good again?


nestea won blizzcon? you from the future, sir?
Obviously Sen/Naniwa have 0% chance of beating Nestea in a series.

Naniwa and BratOK both took a game off him in group stage.
Anyone can take a game but when it comes to a BO5/7 it's 0% chance for them.


All games are bo3, the only exception is the overall final where the player coming from the lower bracket has to win 2x bo3.


winning two consecutive Bo3's against Nestea would be harder than winning a single Bo5 I think :/

I ran the numbers. Two consecutive Bo3's are actually easier to win.

Kidding me? Seriously?
What numbers did you run?


Herp derp. I switched my probabilities. Anyway:

Let p be the probability of Nestea winning a given set.

Then the probability of a challenger winning a best of three is (2p+1)(1-p)^2, and the probability of the challenger winning two in a row is (2p+1)^2(1-p)^4.

The probability of the challenger winning a best of five, however, is (1+3p+6p^2)(1-p)^3.

The ratio of the former to the latter is (2p+1)^2(1-p)/(1+3p+6p^2) = (1+3p-4p^3)/(1+3p+6p^2) < 1.


Now I get it
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