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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.

TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.

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xsn
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland66 Posts
October 22 2011 21:10 GMT
#2141
On October 23 2011 06:07 Darth Caedus wrote:
I understood them not showing a bunch of the matches yesterday... but how could they not show the match that determines top 3 and who the last person is to get knocked out before the money.... da fuck?


I'm tottaly with you on this one. That's pretty absurd. Let's hope that there will be some VODs of these games available later.
Darth Caedus
Profile Joined May 2011
United States326 Posts
October 22 2011 21:10 GMT
#2142
On October 23 2011 06:09 Ryuu2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:07 Darth Caedus wrote:
I understood them not showing a bunch of the matches yesterday... but how could they not show the match that determines top 3 and who the last person is to get knocked out before the money.... da fuck?

they didn't show the winners semis yesterday... and you understand that? o.O



Did I just get hate for not hating on Blizz hard enough?
Polt: "Those auto-turrets are cute." 10/26/13 commenting on MMA vs. Maru.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 22 2011 21:10 GMT
#2143
On October 23 2011 06:07 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 05:54 redloser wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:52 cyclone25 wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:50 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:48 ZAiNs wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:47 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:45 ThisGS wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:42 meowmeow- wrote:
So since Nestea has won Blizzcon and MVP didn't win GSL Oct., can you call them being evenly good again?


nestea won blizzcon? you from the future, sir?
Obviously Sen/Naniwa have 0% chance of beating Nestea in a series.

Naniwa and BratOK both took a game off him in group stage.
Anyone can take a game but when it comes to a BO5/7 it's 0% chance for them.


All games are bo3, the only exception is the overall final where the player coming from the lower bracket has to win 2x bo3.


winning two consecutive Bo3's against Nestea would be harder than winning a single Bo5 I think :/

I ran the numbers. Two consecutive Bo3's are actually easier to win.

How? If you want to win two consecutive bo3s it's like winning a bo7 except you have to win by 4-2 at least.
Automata
Profile Joined March 2011
393 Posts
October 22 2011 21:10 GMT
#2144
Why bother having a 50k tournament if you're not even going to show the games? :/
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
October 22 2011 21:10 GMT
#2145
Wow Sen is THAT good?? After all huk predicted him to win on SOTG
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
October 22 2011 21:11 GMT
#2146
sen vs nestea plz!!
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
October 22 2011 21:11 GMT
#2147
On October 23 2011 06:08 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:02 cyclone25 wrote:
Sen has no chance vs Mvp
Naniwa on the other hand looked very strong this tournament. Sen winning vs Naniwa killed eSports.

Had Mvp been on his game Sen's and Naniwa's chance to beat him would've been exactly the same. But considering Mvp lost a GSL finals earlier today and isn't playing his best, I'd say Sen has a better chance at taking him down.


Nestea is gonna be helping MVP though, so I'd say he has a better chance against Sen than if Naniwa made it through.

Again, unfortunate that Naniwa lost, but Sen needs this as well. He needs to get back on the international radar, and to reclaim the position of a top foreigner Zerg after IdrA and Stephano's awesome performances these last few weeks.
Fanta_Rules
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden669 Posts
October 22 2011 21:11 GMT
#2148
Sen always take out my favourite players, and then loses to the Koreans. Damn him.
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
October 22 2011 21:11 GMT
#2149
On October 23 2011 06:03 ThisGS wrote:
Does anyone else have the feeling that this tournament is pretty much a joke and not even a bit exciting?

The format is fail, the maps are fail, the sceduling is annoying... even most of the games are boring somehow.

TBH, ESWC was much more exciting, as silly as it sounds


Only redeeming qualities to me are Nestea, Mvp and the commentators. That's about it, otherwise yeah, it hasn't been exciting at all.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
October 22 2011 21:12 GMT
#2150
On October 23 2011 06:10 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:07 TheBB wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:54 redloser wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:52 cyclone25 wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:50 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:48 ZAiNs wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:47 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:45 ThisGS wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:42 meowmeow- wrote:
So since Nestea has won Blizzcon and MVP didn't win GSL Oct., can you call them being evenly good again?


nestea won blizzcon? you from the future, sir?
Obviously Sen/Naniwa have 0% chance of beating Nestea in a series.

Naniwa and BratOK both took a game off him in group stage.
Anyone can take a game but when it comes to a BO5/7 it's 0% chance for them.


All games are bo3, the only exception is the overall final where the player coming from the lower bracket has to win 2x bo3.


winning two consecutive Bo3's against Nestea would be harder than winning a single Bo5 I think :/

I ran the numbers. Two consecutive Bo3's are actually easier to win.

How? If you want to win two consecutive bo3s it's like winning a bo7 except you have to win by 4-2 at least.


How would two be easier? Could you explain the numbers?
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
jayhorn
Profile Joined March 2011
England131 Posts
October 22 2011 21:12 GMT
#2151
NesTea is a god. nuff said.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
October 22 2011 21:12 GMT
#2152
On October 23 2011 06:10 Titorelli wrote:
Wow Sen is THAT good?? After all huk predicted him to win on SOTG


and he has arguably worse training overall than the koreans and most foreigners he has beaten so far
darlhet
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy548 Posts
October 22 2011 21:12 GMT
#2153
On October 23 2011 06:11 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:08 Zane wrote:
On October 23 2011 06:02 cyclone25 wrote:
Sen has no chance vs Mvp
Naniwa on the other hand looked very strong this tournament. Sen winning vs Naniwa killed eSports.

Had Mvp been on his game Sen's and Naniwa's chance to beat him would've been exactly the same. But considering Mvp lost a GSL finals earlier today and isn't playing his best, I'd say Sen has a better chance at taking him down.


Nestea is gonna be helping MVP though, so I'd say he has a better chance against Sen than if Naniwa made it through.

Again, unfortunate that Naniwa lost, but Sen needs this as well. He needs to get back on the international radar, and to reclaim the position of a top foreigner Zerg after IdrA and Stephano's awesome performances these last few weeks.

naniwa didnt stand a chance vs mvp's tvp ( counting the metagame to) sen is a beast and he stands a chance
"i feel like im wasting your time" qxc to whitera after getting crushed 0-4
bentnormal
Profile Joined December 2009
112 Posts
October 22 2011 21:12 GMT
#2154
why no games blizzard?
Zamee
Profile Joined July 2011
England51 Posts
October 22 2011 21:12 GMT
#2155
On October 23 2011 06:07 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 05:54 redloser wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:52 cyclone25 wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:50 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:48 ZAiNs wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:47 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:45 ThisGS wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:42 meowmeow- wrote:
So since Nestea has won Blizzcon and MVP didn't win GSL Oct., can you call them being evenly good again?


nestea won blizzcon? you from the future, sir?
Obviously Sen/Naniwa have 0% chance of beating Nestea in a series.

Naniwa and BratOK both took a game off him in group stage.
Anyone can take a game but when it comes to a BO5/7 it's 0% chance for them.


All games are bo3, the only exception is the overall final where the player coming from the lower bracket has to win 2x bo3.


winning two consecutive Bo3's against Nestea would be harder than winning a single Bo5 I think :/

I ran the numbers. Two consecutive Bo3's are actually easier to win.


Lolwut? You think 4-2 ATLEAST is easier than going 3-2? You're good with numbers.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
October 22 2011 21:12 GMT
#2156
On October 23 2011 06:08 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:07 TheBB wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:54 redloser wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:52 cyclone25 wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:50 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:48 ZAiNs wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:47 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:45 ThisGS wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:42 meowmeow- wrote:
So since Nestea has won Blizzcon and MVP didn't win GSL Oct., can you call them being evenly good again?


nestea won blizzcon? you from the future, sir?
Obviously Sen/Naniwa have 0% chance of beating Nestea in a series.

Naniwa and BratOK both took a game off him in group stage.
Anyone can take a game but when it comes to a BO5/7 it's 0% chance for them.


All games are bo3, the only exception is the overall final where the player coming from the lower bracket has to win 2x bo3.


winning two consecutive Bo3's against Nestea would be harder than winning a single Bo5 I think :/

I ran the numbers. Two consecutive Bo3's are actually easier to win.

Kidding me? Seriously?
What numbers did you run?


Herp derp. I switched my probabilities. Anyway:

Let p be the probability of Nestea winning a given set.

Then the probability of a challenger winning a best of three is (2p+1)(1-p)^2, and the probability of the challenger winning two in a row is (2p+1)^2(1-p)^4.

The probability of the challenger winning a best of five, however, is (1+3p+6p^2)(1-p)^3.

The ratio of the former to the latter is (2p+1)^2(1-p)/(1+3p+6p^2) = (1+3p-4p^3)/(1+3p+6p^2) < 1.
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Roynalf
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland886 Posts
October 22 2011 21:13 GMT
#2157
On October 23 2011 06:04 hYdrA-MeNo wrote:
has any1 gotten the avatar for sc2????? i looked for it and i dont have it and yes i bought a virtual ticket

you will get it in the next patch what is minor patch coming in few weeks
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habbey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States405 Posts
October 22 2011 21:13 GMT
#2158
On October 23 2011 06:10 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 06:07 TheBB wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:54 redloser wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:52 cyclone25 wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:50 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:48 ZAiNs wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:47 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:45 ThisGS wrote:
On October 23 2011 05:42 meowmeow- wrote:
So since Nestea has won Blizzcon and MVP didn't win GSL Oct., can you call them being evenly good again?


nestea won blizzcon? you from the future, sir?
Obviously Sen/Naniwa have 0% chance of beating Nestea in a series.

Naniwa and BratOK both took a game off him in group stage.
Anyone can take a game but when it comes to a BO5/7 it's 0% chance for them.


All games are bo3, the only exception is the overall final where the player coming from the lower bracket has to win 2x bo3.


winning two consecutive Bo3's against Nestea would be harder than winning a single Bo5 I think :/

I ran the numbers. Two consecutive Bo3's are actually easier to win.

How? If you want to win two consecutive bo3s it's like winning a bo7 except you have to win by 4-2 at least.


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Supdude
Profile Joined August 2011
244 Posts
October 22 2011 21:13 GMT
#2159
Picture of the Top 3 players!

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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
October 22 2011 21:13 GMT
#2160
lol, pinnacle still has a line listed for naniwa/sen with naniwa as the favourite
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