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On October 15 2011 05:16 MorroW wrote: hello could anyone explain what happened? i dont understand it sorry
A referee made a mistake so Gatored and Dong Rae Gu were in wrong order (1st/2nd) in their group. This was found out while TT1 and Gatored were already playing their QF. After TT1 beat Gatored 3-0, IEM said that match didn't count and TT1 has to play DRG tomorrow instead.
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oh thats really great news if tt1 gets 4th place money. now nobody can bitch about that error I'd say
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On October 15 2011 05:16 MorroW wrote: hello could anyone explain what happened? i dont understand it sorry They screwed up the tiebreakers for the pool. Gatored should not have been in a position to play TT1, so their match shouldn't have happened.
So they canceled the 3-0 TT1 victory, and swapped opponents so that TT1 will play DRG and Gatored will play TOP, both tomorrow. In compensation, TT1 is guaranteed top 4 prize money.
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On October 15 2011 05:15 Corrosive wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 05:13 ETisME wrote:On October 15 2011 05:10 mitthrawn wrote:On October 15 2011 05:06 Kazang wrote:On October 15 2011 04:59 mitthrawn wrote:On October 15 2011 04:55 Xx26Vanek26xX wrote:On October 15 2011 04:45 Xeris wrote:On October 15 2011 04:44 mcc wrote:On October 15 2011 04:41 Xeris wrote: Dude that's so fucked up... how can they cancel the result of a game that was played?
They should apologize to DRG for messing up and having him play the wrong opponent, not cancel the result of a game already played Why ? Is it more unfair then DRG having to play harder opponent when he ended up 1st in the group ? Sticking to system is better as one way or another you are being unfair to someone, so at least it is according to rules. Doesnt matter. The game was already played... IEM should apologize to DRG for fucking up, not cancel a legitimate game now they just apologize to TT1 for fucking up isn't doing the same thing and getting it right? what the hell is wrong with you guys? you just dont do that AFTER an official match has been played. Very bad move by IEM. Apparently IPL raised the bar of being professional way too high last week. IEM just bombed esports back into the stone age. TT1 essentially got a free win because of an error, and Top who legitimately owned his group would have had to play DRG. Top having to play DRG in the Ro8 would have been a joke. They are correcting their error, if they don't all the results are void because they are not legitimate. If you were Top or DRG who legitimately won their groups would you be happy that you got openly screwed? TT1 is not getting screwed, he has to play who he has to play according to the rules and how he played in the group. He's just not getting a free advantage from an error. Disappointing for him but taking advantage of the error would be both unsporting and call any results from the tournament into question. Transfer that into real sports like NFL, NBA or Champions League in Football. And tell me they would do the same thing IEM just did. :facepalm: that's how I feel about it too... if this ever happened in real sports, the tournament definitly will get sued all over What the fuck? No it wouldn't. If a legitimate mistake happened that screwed up the seeding of a major tournament i'm 100% sure the tournament organizers would follow their own rules (whatever they may be). If the rules stated that they would have to replay games in a mistake like this, then they would replay games and no one would get sued. sometimes my head hurts when i read shit like this. Football matches have been replayed for reasons far less compelling than this.
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On October 15 2011 05:16 MorroW wrote: hello could anyone explain what happened? i dont understand it sorry
Referee made a misstake and seeding was judged wrong. TT1 vs. gatored was supposed to be TT1 vs DRG (same change on other side of bracket). This was discovered during the matches were being played, and they were deemed to not count at all. The matches will be "replayed" tomorrow with correct opponents.
<3 you Morrow!
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On October 15 2011 05:15 Corrosive wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 05:13 ETisME wrote:On October 15 2011 05:10 mitthrawn wrote:On October 15 2011 05:06 Kazang wrote:On October 15 2011 04:59 mitthrawn wrote:On October 15 2011 04:55 Xx26Vanek26xX wrote:On October 15 2011 04:45 Xeris wrote:On October 15 2011 04:44 mcc wrote:On October 15 2011 04:41 Xeris wrote: Dude that's so fucked up... how can they cancel the result of a game that was played?
They should apologize to DRG for messing up and having him play the wrong opponent, not cancel the result of a game already played Why ? Is it more unfair then DRG having to play harder opponent when he ended up 1st in the group ? Sticking to system is better as one way or another you are being unfair to someone, so at least it is according to rules. Doesnt matter. The game was already played... IEM should apologize to DRG for fucking up, not cancel a legitimate game now they just apologize to TT1 for fucking up isn't doing the same thing and getting it right? what the hell is wrong with you guys? you just dont do that AFTER an official match has been played. Very bad move by IEM. Apparently IPL raised the bar of being professional way too high last week. IEM just bombed esports back into the stone age. TT1 essentially got a free win because of an error, and Top who legitimately owned his group would have had to play DRG. Top having to play DRG in the Ro8 would have been a joke. They are correcting their error, if they don't all the results are void because they are not legitimate. If you were Top or DRG who legitimately won their groups would you be happy that you got openly screwed? TT1 is not getting screwed, he has to play who he has to play according to the rules and how he played in the group. He's just not getting a free advantage from an error. Disappointing for him but taking advantage of the error would be both unsporting and call any results from the tournament into question. Transfer that into real sports like NFL, NBA or Champions League in Football. And tell me they would do the same thing IEM just did. :facepalm: that's how I feel about it too... if this ever happened in real sports, the tournament definitly will get sued all over What the fuck? No it wouldn't. If a legitimate mistake happened that screwed up the seeding of a major tournament i'm 100% sure the tournament organizers would follow their own rules (whatever they may be). If the rules stated that they would have to replay games in a mistake like this, then they would replay games and no one would get sued. sometimes my head hurts when i read shit like this.
I think in "real sports" they wouldn't have a regame just because rescheduling everything would be more effort than it's worth.
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On October 15 2011 05:16 MorroW wrote: hello could anyone explain what happened? i dont understand it sorry DRG and Gatored was in the same group, only 1st's can face 2nd's in random drawings but DRG faced TOP and TT1 faced Gatored (TOP and DRG finished 1st). Then TT1 and Gatored played a bo5 which TT1 won with 3-0, Carmac then faced up to the mistake on stream and changed it so now we have fresh ro8's with the correct brackets.
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On October 15 2011 05:10 mitthrawn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 05:06 Kazang wrote:On October 15 2011 04:59 mitthrawn wrote:On October 15 2011 04:55 Xx26Vanek26xX wrote:On October 15 2011 04:45 Xeris wrote:On October 15 2011 04:44 mcc wrote:On October 15 2011 04:41 Xeris wrote: Dude that's so fucked up... how can they cancel the result of a game that was played?
They should apologize to DRG for messing up and having him play the wrong opponent, not cancel the result of a game already played Why ? Is it more unfair then DRG having to play harder opponent when he ended up 1st in the group ? Sticking to system is better as one way or another you are being unfair to someone, so at least it is according to rules. Doesnt matter. The game was already played... IEM should apologize to DRG for fucking up, not cancel a legitimate game now they just apologize to TT1 for fucking up isn't doing the same thing and getting it right? what the hell is wrong with you guys? you just dont do that AFTER an official match has been played. Very bad move by IEM. Apparently IPL raised the bar of being professional way too high last week. IEM just bombed esports back into the stone age. TT1 essentially got a free win because of an error, and Top who legitimately owned his group would have had to play DRG. Top having to play DRG in the Ro8 would have been a joke. They are correcting their error, if they don't all the results are void because they are not legitimate. If you were Top or DRG who legitimately won their groups would you be happy that you got openly screwed? TT1 is not getting screwed, he has to play who he has to play according to the rules and how he played in the group. He's just not getting a free advantage from an error. Disappointing for him but taking advantage of the error would be both unsporting and call any results from the tournament into question. Transfer that into real sports like NFL, NBA or Champions League in Football. And tell me they would do the same thing IEM just did. :facepalm: The situation is not comparable as matches in those sports are not played immediately one after another and such mistakes are easily spotted before the match.
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On October 15 2011 05:16 MorroW wrote: hello could anyone explain what happened? i dont understand it sorry A referee placed DRG second in group B, below Gatored. TT1 was to play first place from Group B and played gatored and beat him 3:0. But then it turned out that DRG was supposed to be first and TT1 was supposed to play DRG, so his match with Gatored was declared invalid and he did not advance to the Ro4.
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$ 1,250 now for TT1 no matter what
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On October 15 2011 05:19 how2TL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 05:15 Corrosive wrote:On October 15 2011 05:13 ETisME wrote:On October 15 2011 05:10 mitthrawn wrote:On October 15 2011 05:06 Kazang wrote:On October 15 2011 04:59 mitthrawn wrote:On October 15 2011 04:55 Xx26Vanek26xX wrote:On October 15 2011 04:45 Xeris wrote:On October 15 2011 04:44 mcc wrote:On October 15 2011 04:41 Xeris wrote: Dude that's so fucked up... how can they cancel the result of a game that was played?
They should apologize to DRG for messing up and having him play the wrong opponent, not cancel the result of a game already played Why ? Is it more unfair then DRG having to play harder opponent when he ended up 1st in the group ? Sticking to system is better as one way or another you are being unfair to someone, so at least it is according to rules. Doesnt matter. The game was already played... IEM should apologize to DRG for fucking up, not cancel a legitimate game now they just apologize to TT1 for fucking up isn't doing the same thing and getting it right? what the hell is wrong with you guys? you just dont do that AFTER an official match has been played. Very bad move by IEM. Apparently IPL raised the bar of being professional way too high last week. IEM just bombed esports back into the stone age. TT1 essentially got a free win because of an error, and Top who legitimately owned his group would have had to play DRG. Top having to play DRG in the Ro8 would have been a joke. They are correcting their error, if they don't all the results are void because they are not legitimate. If you were Top or DRG who legitimately won their groups would you be happy that you got openly screwed? TT1 is not getting screwed, he has to play who he has to play according to the rules and how he played in the group. He's just not getting a free advantage from an error. Disappointing for him but taking advantage of the error would be both unsporting and call any results from the tournament into question. Transfer that into real sports like NFL, NBA or Champions League in Football. And tell me they would do the same thing IEM just did. :facepalm: that's how I feel about it too... if this ever happened in real sports, the tournament definitly will get sued all over What the fuck? No it wouldn't. If a legitimate mistake happened that screwed up the seeding of a major tournament i'm 100% sure the tournament organizers would follow their own rules (whatever they may be). If the rules stated that they would have to replay games in a mistake like this, then they would replay games and no one would get sued. sometimes my head hurts when i read shit like this. I think in "real sports" they wouldn't have a regame just because rescheduling everything would be more effort than it's worth. As I've stated in this thread, "real sports" have had replay games due to referee mistakes.
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I think Rotti just called Operation: Desert Storm a movie... lol
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i guess one particular referee will have 450 reasons to be sad on payday :D
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Love the shirts Bitter and Rotti wore. I want one.
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On October 15 2011 05:13 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2011 05:10 mitthrawn wrote:On October 15 2011 05:06 Kazang wrote:On October 15 2011 04:59 mitthrawn wrote:On October 15 2011 04:55 Xx26Vanek26xX wrote:On October 15 2011 04:45 Xeris wrote:On October 15 2011 04:44 mcc wrote:On October 15 2011 04:41 Xeris wrote: Dude that's so fucked up... how can they cancel the result of a game that was played?
They should apologize to DRG for messing up and having him play the wrong opponent, not cancel the result of a game already played Why ? Is it more unfair then DRG having to play harder opponent when he ended up 1st in the group ? Sticking to system is better as one way or another you are being unfair to someone, so at least it is according to rules. Doesnt matter. The game was already played... IEM should apologize to DRG for fucking up, not cancel a legitimate game now they just apologize to TT1 for fucking up isn't doing the same thing and getting it right? what the hell is wrong with you guys? you just dont do that AFTER an official match has been played. Very bad move by IEM. Apparently IPL raised the bar of being professional way too high last week. IEM just bombed esports back into the stone age. TT1 essentially got a free win because of an error, and Top who legitimately owned his group would have had to play DRG. Top having to play DRG in the Ro8 would have been a joke. They are correcting their error, if they don't all the results are void because they are not legitimate. If you were Top or DRG who legitimately won their groups would you be happy that you got openly screwed? TT1 is not getting screwed, he has to play who he has to play according to the rules and how he played in the group. He's just not getting a free advantage from an error. Disappointing for him but taking advantage of the error would be both unsporting and call any results from the tournament into question. Transfer that into real sports like NFL, NBA or Champions League in Football. And tell me they would do the same thing IEM just did. :facepalm: that's how I feel about it too... if this ever happened in real sports, the tournament definitly will get sued all over, even if the mistake is "fixed"
When I read this I realised something, this has happened to me before. We played the quarterfinals of U18 National Championship and won 4-1, we played the wrong opponent and the game was nullified. Then we lost 1-0 to the real opponents and the team we beat later became champions. We were not happy, but it got overshadowed by the horrible referee in the 1-0-loss
We even travelled for 3-4 hours to play the wrong match. Sick!
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People wonder why people hate to take responsibility for things, look no farther than this thread. You have IEM taking full responsibility for the screw up and fixing it as best they can, and you still have people coming in here talking about lawsuits and boycotts and everything else. It's no wonder no one wants to take responsibility for anything anymore. It's a lose lose situation, because people have no sense of perspective.
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On October 15 2011 05:22 Wolf wrote: Love the shirts Bitter and Rotti wore. I want one.
They sell them in their website
Much <3
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