[ESEA] Season 10 - Page 6

On October 12 2011 05:48 iNcontroL wrote:
Let me subjectively say for the reasons above your league is a failure.

On October 12 2011 11:51 escher wrote:
I tend to disagree with iNcontroL on a lot of things (for example, he apparently believes in creationism

On October 12 2011 13:53 crms wrote:



say what? that's embarrassing.

I agree that a w/o finals is a pretty retarded decision. Every accommodation should be made so that your league final gets played. I'm also laughing hysterically at incontrol arguing the logic of decisions made by a league when he (NASL) and EG (EGMC) have been affiliated with tournaments/leagues that have had some of dumbest decisions known to man and the end result was usually, 'it's our league we will run it how we see fit.' Are people's memories really that short?

incontrol being a raging hypocrite when it's not really necessary, shocker.

On October 12 2011 13:56 iNcontroL wrote:


uh the difference is I am a commentator for both those leagues and not an admin (he is)
Also I am not a creationist.. you reddit people are really bad at reading.

On October 12 2011 14:10 crms wrote:
You're a superstar of SC2 with way more fans than haters, but shit like this thread is a huge reason you have such a loud albeit minority voice against you so often.

ps glad that you aren't a creationist, phew.

On October 12 2011 13:56 iNcontroL wrote:
Also I am not a creationist.. you reddit people are really bad at reading.

On October 12 2011 14:10 crms wrote:


I'm not a redditor.

I understand there is a difference between being a commentator and an admin. I was more referring to such moments like your tireless defense of EG's stance in the EGMC when Liquid was trying to argue over the playability of the servers. EG's stance was pretty silly but it basically came down to, 'this is how we want to run our league' and that was that, liquid pulled out.

That is just one of many examples one could illustrate where this whole situation is highly ironic.

The greatest of all though may just be you bashing into this relatively unknown tournament admin calling him a SHIT admin etc. etc., when he made a decision in the best interest of his league (or so he thought). I don't think it was a good decision but how is you laying into him calling him shitty at his profession over a poor decision any different then when you sob to the community about calling you a shitty player because you never win anything/perform well? Maybe I'm delusional but I think that's really silly. It's ok for you to bash this guy for being a 'shitty' admin but the community needs to be more positive towards your 'shitty' play? Weird.

This isn't simply a bash post either, I really enjoy you on SOTG, you can be goddamn hilarious but I think you should take a step back and realize wtf you're doing sometimes. This and countless other examples is why you're so controversial in this community. You're a superstar of SC2 with way more fans than haters, but shit like this thread is a huge reason you have such a loud albeit minority voice against you so often.

ps glad that you aren't a creationist, phew.

On October 12 2011 14:29 psycrop wrote:

Minority??

I'm pretty a lot of people hate his guts not only for being a shitty player, but for having a shitty attitude as well. I wish he'd tone it down sometimes, not everything revolves around him or his team. By the way, GL at Orlando iNcontrol. Hope you'd put your practice hat on, maybe this time you'll almost win your games.

ESEA is a GOOD LEAGUE. Help them bring it to the level that it is in CS and TF2 and you got yourself another prestigious organization making way into the SC2 scene.

On October 12 2011 15:12 iNcontroL wrote:


Here let me help you out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority

He wasn't referring to the number being a "small amount of people" but rather they are outnumbered by another group of people.

you seem to be hot on the trail of your next banned account btw.. keep at it!

On October 12 2011 15:14 SirScoots wrote:
If this happened to Craig when he ran 3D, he would have gone batshit on the league, funny how times change.

On October 12 2011 15:26 ATLpro wrote:



lol.... aren't you EG's manager.. I understand the players voicing their opinions in a public forums, but the manager? I thought EG(CS) and ESEA had a better relationship than this.. Professionalism 101 guys.

On October 12 2011 15:37 Phobbers wrote:
Overall, I feel iNcontrol has every right to be angered over this situation, but I also feel this type of argument should not be occurring on a public forum.


P.S. I expect some wacky antics on the next SotG iNcontrol!!

On October 12 2011 15:40 iNcontroL wrote:


I disagree. In eSports we don't have a way to hold leagues accountable for their actions save for public opinion. I can't write a letter to ESEA and get real change. I don't have a 3rd party to go to and have this issue mediated. I need people to know ESEA went ahead and made a choice that is really shitty and literally everyone agrees.. even dabears knows this. The difference is everyone knows it's shitty and should change but dabears is like "sup we can't do anything now!" and is unapologetic. Even calling me names, disrespecting other leagues and in general being defensive when he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.