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machination
United States175 Posts
He also didnt start high templar tech until past the 20 minute mark as a response to corruptors. Second game was more of the same caliber of decision making (why would you cannon rush a natural when the zerg can just cancel and re rexpand?). Huk is certainly a Code A caliber Protoss, but I have trouble believing he belongs on Code S after this season's performance. | ||
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gullberg
Sweden1301 Posts
Not surprised that HuK lost, gonna watch the VoDs later but Losira is just one hell of a player who deserves to go to code s no doubt. Good to see Leenock pass aswell AND happy to see Rain get knocked out. Hopefully Leenock and Losira will make it. | ||
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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ChApFoU
France2986 Posts
On March 08 2011 00:59 machination wrote: Huk's initial major engagement in the first game that cleared his sentry count lost him the game. Why would you engage a zerg army on creep in a position that is advantageous to the zerg? Especially in the time between when the creep tumors are cleared and when the creep degrades. He also didnt start high templar tech until past the 20 minute mark as a response to corruptors. Second game was more of the same caliber of decision making (why would you cannon rush a natural when the zerg can just cancel and re rexpand?). Huk is certainly a Code A caliber Protoss, but I have trouble believing he belongs on Code S after this season's performance. I think game 1 HuK underestimated Losira's Roach count and in game 2 he expected to be able to cancel his cannons just after Losira cancelled his expansion, Losira played it smart by waiting until the very last second. Canceling your expo and re-expanding is a pretty big deal at that lvl of play. It hurts your build and your timing. | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13431 Posts
On March 08 2011 00:59 machination wrote: Huk's initial major engagement in the first game that cleared his sentry count lost him the game. Why would you engage a zerg army on creep in a position that is advantageous to the zerg? Especially in the time between when the creep tumors are cleared and when the creep degrades. He also didnt start high templar tech until past the 20 minute mark as a response to corruptors. Second game was more of the same caliber of decision making (why would you cannon rush a natural when the zerg can just cancel and re rexpand?). Huk is certainly a Code A caliber Protoss, but I have trouble believing he belongs on Code S after this season's performance. I had a similar feeling towards the second game. I was surprised he invested in 3 cannons, he could have cancelled the first 2 that were almost done and let the third one that was farther from finishing finish. I mean if the zerg decided to let the the hatch finish then one cannon would have sufficed to make it more difficult to mine and he could have put another cannon down. To be honest I just think HuK was surprised he saw the hatch pop up and still get cancelled. I know i was REALLY surprised it was able to be cancelled. | ||
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skipdog172
United States331 Posts
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Phosgene
United States187 Posts
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unoriginalname
England380 Posts
A complete roflstomp with a great celebration. I'm okay that HuK lost as it means another great Zerg may be entering Code S. + Show Spoiler + Hopefully he doesn't do any dancing Zerglings for the rest of his Code A matches. | ||
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LoCaD
Germany1634 Posts
and Yesterday I told someone my LB are for Huks but my mind say Losira damn Mind won all Foreigners out sad day indead on the new Caster combo how are they switching out now, everyone with everyone? also the New Guy Doa solid Professionel Casting falls into the Category Analytical for me unless he just saves his Jokes up for when he is more established. and 2 Analytical Casters is a Problem for me I'll see how this develops. | ||
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13431 Posts
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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Sabu113
United States11112 Posts
Loisira played damn well imo. Can't wait to see you next season huk. t.t some good games at least :D | ||
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alan25
United States379 Posts
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Irrelevant
United States2364 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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warshop
Canada490 Posts
On March 07 2011 23:57 syllogism wrote: One of the "best three zergs in korea" and yet he kept failing to qualify for GSL and his code A games so far, the games today aside, have been quite underwhelming. Even outside GSL, his performance hasn't been good. He could very well be a top zerg, but he hasn't proven himself at all yet. Just like Leenock, he is at the very least wildly inconsistent. Yet, ST_Bomber has inconsistent results and is, according to the recent IEM winner, the best Terran in Korea. On March 07 2011 23:47 hifriend wrote: I don't hate huk. I don't hate any starcraft player. I'm not a fan though and I wouldn't wish to see him advance into code S to replace a more solid player. Ret and moonglade are much stronger players from what I've seen. Yes I described those series very briefly and black and white-ish but what it came down to was zergs doing some very essential mistakes that someone in code a shouldn't have been doing, and ZvP is a matchup that never allows for that to happen. In game 2 on shakuras against revival huk played a truly aweful early and mid game and it set him back to a point where a comeback really shouldn't even be a possibility. The guy didn't have his third up by the time his main was mined out and revival had taken most of the map and had larva and minerals to remax several times. The only reason huk managed to claw his was back wasn't due to some amazing play on his part but rather due to the fact that revival was unable to get out a decent unit composition which is everything in late game zvp. Huk played a really bad game and won. After his 6 gate timing failed, he should have lost, but he lucked out and won. Anyway the state of pvz is pretty debatable right now. You do know Revival went Hive at the 21th minute mark while Losira never went Hive against Huk? I think what really killed Huk was the Colossus transition in that first game against Losira (maybe the passivity, but it's hard to tell). Losira had a better economy and could throw away Corruptors. While Huk on the other hand, could not throw away Colossus. You do have to realize that Losira's macro is amazing (How many 200 armies did he throw? Seriously...). Edit: Oops, missing a quote. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On March 08 2011 02:07 warshop wrote: Yet, ST_Bomber has inconsistent results and is, according to the recent IEM winner, the best Terran in Korea. But he actually has some very impressive showings outside GSL and I haven't actually seen him play particularly poorly. Losira has a somewhat impressive game or two, but that's about it. | ||
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meowmasta
146 Posts
On March 08 2011 02:07 warshop wrote: Yet, ST_Bomber has inconsistent results and is, according to the recent IEM winner, the best Terran in Korea. You do know Revival went Hive at the 21th minute mark while Losira never went Hive against Huk? I think what really killed Huk was the Colossus transition in that first game against Losira (maybe the passivity, but it's hard to tell). Losira had a better economy and could throw away Corruptors. While Huk on the other hand, could not throw away Colossus. You do have to realize that Losira's macro is amazing (How many 200 armies did he throw? Seriously...). Edit: Oops, missing a quote. And you know who's ramping him up as the best Terran in Korea? ST_Ace, his teammate. No, clearly no bias there  Don't get me wrong, he's probably still one of the top 5 Terrans atm, but there's a little bit of favoritism from Ace. Just sayin'. | ||
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warshop
Canada490 Posts
On March 08 2011 02:10 syllogism wrote: But he actually has some very impressive showings outside GSL. Losira has a somewhat impressive game or two, but that's about it. He has? Apart from the ICCup challenge, I do not know what you are referring to. And I'm sorry, Losira has better showing the GSL. He took out Byun and July. That is no small feat. | ||
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