EPTGSL Code A Round of 8 Day 1 - Page 104
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n3gative
Canada369 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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MisterPuppy
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also, that roach/baneling play against huk was really well done, especially the bombs that he did at the 3rd expansion late in the game. kinda strange watching huk go from all out passive to all out aggressive in the first and second game, neither strategy really worked out :\. | ||
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Xadar
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SushilS
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On March 07 2011 23:35 turdburgler wrote: im still on the fence about huk. he talks a big game but hasnt delivered enough so far.... Aaaand I'm out. No more reading your BS. RO8...Qualifies for up and down at first try....furthest a foreigner has ever gotten in CodeA... -_- | ||
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Figgy
Canada1788 Posts
He didn't stim a single unit of his army that was outside the one bunker! At least Kelly knows enough about the game where you see the stim symbol pop above the heads and she was a bit confused when the sound went off but the symbols didn't, that is at least reasonable to be confused by. Doa is just saying random crap and is absolutely clueless. I really miss Tastosis commentary from people who actually play this game at a high level, instead of hearing commentary from gold level players that most anyone watching the vods would be able to smoke any day of the week. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
On March 07 2011 23:18 tree.hugger wrote: Shoddy argument of convenience. Poor form. HuK lost to Losira because Losira is one of the best three zergs in Korea. Nothing to be ashamed of. HuK will make Code S. HuK beat a mediocre and a very good zerg in the earlier rounds. Curious lost his game before he threw away those banelings. "HuK six gating" happened to be a really strong and well executed timing attack, yet you give him no credit. He defeated Revival with a great all-in defense in the second game. In the third game, Revival gambled heavily on army, and very nearly won, but HuK wrenched control back from him at the very end and killed him. Good game from both. Where did all the HuK hate come from? This is seriously stupid. Really impressive player. I don't hate huk. I don't hate any starcraft player. I'm not a fan though and I wouldn't wish to see him advance into code S to replace a more solid player. Ret and moonglade are much stronger players from what I've seen. Yes I described those series very briefly and black and white-ish but what it came down to was zergs doing some very essential mistakes that someone in code a shouldn't have been doing, and ZvP is a matchup that never allows for that to happen. In game 2 on shakuras against revival huk played a truly aweful early and mid game and it set him back to a point where a comeback really shouldn't even be a possibility. The guy didn't have his third up by the time his main was mined out and revival had taken most of the map and had larva and minerals to remax several times. The only reason huk managed to claw his was back wasn't due to some amazing play on his part but rather due to the fact that revival was unable to get out a decent unit composition which is everything in late game zvp. Huk played a really bad game and won. After his 6 gate timing failed, he should have lost, but he lucked out and won. Anyway the state of pvz is pretty debatable right now. On March 07 2011 23:32 syllogism wrote: I'm not a Huk fan at all and would be quite critical if I were to voice my opinion, but please, he consistently crushes Losira on ladder and yes that is evidence suggesting he would beat losira if they played enough games. I don't think it is. From what I've seen, and yes I do watch his stream from time to time, huk relies on a pretty select few builds that are bound to do incredibly well in a ladder setting. PvZ he has a tendency to try and inflict some early damage either by cannoning a natural, pushing out with an extremely vulnerable sentry/lot force or by just endlessly stalling a hatch. He then capitalizes on whatever economic setback he has managed to cause almost invariably by pushing out with a 5/6 gate army possibly with +1 and halted probe production. The problem with this sort of play is that it just doesn't cut it in a tournament setting. When the opponent has time and opportunity to study replays and prepare for the various little tricks huk can manage to come up with, huk's play will keep falling flat until he changes up his style. | ||
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Vega62a
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On March 07 2011 23:18 tree.hugger wrote: HuK lost to Losira because Losira is one of the best three zergs in Korea. Nothing to be ashamed of. HuK will make Code S. HuK beat a mediocre and a very good zerg in the earlier rounds. Curious lost his game before he threw away those banelings. "HuK six gating" happened to be a really strong and well executed timing attack, yet you give him no credit. He defeated Revival with a great all-in defense in the second game. In the third game, Revival gambled heavily on army, and very nearly won, but HuK wrenched control back from him at the very end and killed him. Good game from both. Where did all the HuK hate come from? This is seriously stupid. Really impressive player. (Emphasis mine) Thank you for this. For some reason, when HuK does a 6 gate timing push, it's boring and standard and shows how bad he is, but when MC does a 6 gate timing push, HE IS THE KRATOS PROTOSS AAGH HE RIPS THE ARMS OFF OF HIS OPPONENTS AND THEN USES THEM TO PLAY STARCRAFFFFT. Seriously though, MC and HuK are excellent players both, and I'm sensing a double standard here. HuK played quite well, and yes, we've seen that he seems to be weak against early roach allins, but I'd bet day9's million euros that with his work ethic, by next season, he'll be roflstomping that tactic in his sleep. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Almtom
Sweden132 Posts
Kelly however is still terrible..... anyone wanna make a bet for how long she will last? | ||
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vrok
Sweden2541 Posts
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Kammalleri
Canada613 Posts
It's an amazing build, but roach timing was perfect against his build then burrow was perfect too and from there he was behind in tech and economy, If one game he would go robo right after expo and pump and immortal or 2 fast instead of going with more gateway units he would easily crush every zerg that goes roach heavy to counter his usual army comp. Anyway props to Huk for doing better than pretty much anyone could have after his weaker early game. No matter what he's still in Up and down matches and that's the main goal when you play in Code A. I'd love to see him play some more in Code A, but if he makes it to Code S which he very well could it won't matter where he seeded in Code A. | ||
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
On March 08 2011 00:05 vrok wrote: Yeah, top three zergs would be Nestea, FD (despite minor slump) and July. No room for Losira in there, sorry. Maybe shares the next few spots with Kyrix, Leenock and TheWind at best, but even that I'm skeptical of. I'd say Losira is more solid than FD and July. | ||
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Huckleuro
United Kingdom294 Posts
HuK got pretty out-classed, especially in the first game. I'd guess this was down to nerves though... the amount of times ive seen HuK hand LosirA his own ass on a plate via HuK's stream is amazing. I really thought hed take this series. Oh well, on to the up and downs! Best of luck to the hukker. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On March 08 2011 00:08 zerious wrote: I'd say Losira is more solid than FD and July. On what basis exactly | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
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vrok
Sweden2541 Posts
On March 08 2011 00:08 zerious wrote: I'd say Losira is more solid than FD and July. In today's games he might have looked that way, but it's way easier to look solid when you're not playing against the best of the best. So far in the history of the GSL he hasn't proven himself to be considered as such. We'll see what the future holds. | ||
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ChApFoU
France2983 Posts
Sad to see HuK go but I think he just needs more lan experience to get more decisive, imho he's a little gunshy sometimes. His mechanics are really good for a non-korean though. | ||
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ChApFoU
France2983 Posts
On March 07 2011 23:35 turdburgler wrote: im still on the fence about huk. he talks a big game but hasnt delivered enough so far. if he makes it into code s from up and down ill take it all back though, since thats a bigger deal than 100 tiny tourneys. So far he's delivered more than any other non-korean with the exeption of Jinro and Idra. | ||
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eNtitY~
United States1293 Posts
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