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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
October 16 2010 21:07 GMT
#4101
My God Wheat.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Logo2010
Profile Joined October 2010
509 Posts
October 16 2010 21:08 GMT
#4102
"everyone likes the back door" lol
stepover12
Profile Joined May 2010
United States175 Posts
October 16 2010 21:08 GMT
#4103
dj wheat and his back door obsession again! )
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
October 16 2010 21:08 GMT
#4104
"Everyone likes the back door" lol
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Dubes
Profile Joined August 2010
United States327 Posts
October 16 2010 21:08 GMT
#4105
"everyone likes the backdoor" indeed djwheat..
TheWoodLeagueAllstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom617 Posts
October 16 2010 21:08 GMT
#4106
On October 17 2010 06:06 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 06:02 Piy wrote:
On October 17 2010 05:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 05:56 Frack wrote:
On October 17 2010 05:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 05:49 sleepingdog wrote:
On October 17 2010 05:45 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
way to completely ignore select's incredible micro and decision-making!


I just don't get why you can't complain about boring MMM-tactics AND appreciate selects play at the same time?

I mean, I think select is one of the very best terrans in the western hemisphere when it comes down to micro....but still I find his gamestyle/overall-concept very predictable and boring; why does everything has to be black and white? why must it always come to either be 100% in favour or 100% against a player? there are aspects I admire about select's play and aspects I don't like; same goes for pretty much every player; what's wrong with that?


if those games weren't interesting to you simply because they featured a bio ball (reading this post of yours i don't think that's the case for you, but certainly for others here) then you (using the term "you" loosely here!) are missing out on incredibly important aspects of this game and simply seeing 'well he made some marauders', that makes you a bad player and "you" should keep quiet!

I fail to see how me having a supposedly "Greater understanding" of the game would change my opinion of the games i saw, i think its an elitist argument on a base level and on a greater level its not really a counter at all to what im saying, its sitting in the camp of "well you just wouldnt understand, its a bit over your head". I have said again and again that just because i thought the game was boring doesnt mean intrinsically it was to anyone else, but im allowed to have my opinion regardless. I appreciate his micro and i think he deserved the victory, but so far as being a spectator is concerned if the whole tournament was like that then id be sorely dissapointed.


i don't understand how you can completely seperate yourself into two entities like that. the 'spectator' who is easily bored by seeing the same units over and over, and the 'player' who appreciates the tremendous display of skill that was select vs nony. i don't understand how ANY competitive player can be bored of a sc2 match simply because he's seen marauders before.


I think his argument is that the games aren't particularly varied and that the unit mixes from Terran have been very similar in every TvP mu today, yet that doesn't prevent good players from appreciating good play. Seems like a reasonable observation right now from a spectator standpoint, the other mu's have been a lot more enjoyable to watch from a casual spectator standpoint.


then we return to my original 'fuck the casual spectator this is teamliquid.net' standpoint!

You really cant see how appreciation and entertaining are two different things? I am not a casual spectator by any means.
Bunker rushing is the way to a mans heart <3
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
October 16 2010 21:08 GMT
#4107
damn, all the good games today started super early, good thing they are releasing replays though
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
October 16 2010 21:08 GMT
#4108
Wheat loves the backdoor
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-16 21:08:52
October 16 2010 21:08 GMT
#4109
Is it just me or would reapers work very, very well vs. a toss that doesn't make stalkers? I mean, lots of them as part of a normal army with marines and marauders.
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
groms
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1017 Posts
October 16 2010 21:08 GMT
#4110
LOL <3 djwheat so funny
I have a recurring dream that I'm running away from a terran player but the marauders keep slowing me down. - Artosis
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
October 16 2010 21:08 GMT
#4111
DJWheat has so much more casting experience, and there isn't much difference in their game knowledge.Last edit: 2010-10-17 06:05:55


JP is smoother. Experience has nothing to do with it.
maellestrom
Profile Joined April 2010
United States194 Posts
October 16 2010 21:08 GMT
#4112
On October 17 2010 06:04 IntoTheBush wrote:
not hating but I think they could get a better co-commentator than DjWheat. Studders too much lol


You are treading on hollowed ground my friend.
Holla
lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
October 16 2010 21:08 GMT
#4113
Everyone talking about wheat, he is awesome for a change of pace. i think lots of people watching the stream that are not super into starcraft 2 really gain from having him as the co caster. he really helps introduce competitive points and ask good questions from sean while on stream. him and day really commentate well together also neither talks over the other one.
Awesome german interviewer: "What was your idea going into games against Idra" "I WANTED TO USE A CHEESE STRATEGY BECAUSE IDRA IS KNOWN TO TILT AFTER LOSING TO SOMETHING GAY" Demuslim
Gnarg
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands165 Posts
October 16 2010 21:09 GMT
#4114
Unfortunately not alot of units fit through the backdoor, its quite tight.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
October 16 2010 21:09 GMT
#4115
On October 17 2010 06:08 Frack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2010 06:06 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 06:02 Piy wrote:
On October 17 2010 05:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 05:56 Frack wrote:
On October 17 2010 05:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On October 17 2010 05:49 sleepingdog wrote:
On October 17 2010 05:45 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
way to completely ignore select's incredible micro and decision-making!


I just don't get why you can't complain about boring MMM-tactics AND appreciate selects play at the same time?

I mean, I think select is one of the very best terrans in the western hemisphere when it comes down to micro....but still I find his gamestyle/overall-concept very predictable and boring; why does everything has to be black and white? why must it always come to either be 100% in favour or 100% against a player? there are aspects I admire about select's play and aspects I don't like; same goes for pretty much every player; what's wrong with that?


if those games weren't interesting to you simply because they featured a bio ball (reading this post of yours i don't think that's the case for you, but certainly for others here) then you (using the term "you" loosely here!) are missing out on incredibly important aspects of this game and simply seeing 'well he made some marauders', that makes you a bad player and "you" should keep quiet!

I fail to see how me having a supposedly "Greater understanding" of the game would change my opinion of the games i saw, i think its an elitist argument on a base level and on a greater level its not really a counter at all to what im saying, its sitting in the camp of "well you just wouldnt understand, its a bit over your head". I have said again and again that just because i thought the game was boring doesnt mean intrinsically it was to anyone else, but im allowed to have my opinion regardless. I appreciate his micro and i think he deserved the victory, but so far as being a spectator is concerned if the whole tournament was like that then id be sorely dissapointed.


i don't understand how you can completely seperate yourself into two entities like that. the 'spectator' who is easily bored by seeing the same units over and over, and the 'player' who appreciates the tremendous display of skill that was select vs nony. i don't understand how ANY competitive player can be bored of a sc2 match simply because he's seen marauders before.


I think his argument is that the games aren't particularly varied and that the unit mixes from Terran have been very similar in every TvP mu today, yet that doesn't prevent good players from appreciating good play. Seems like a reasonable observation right now from a spectator standpoint, the other mu's have been a lot more enjoyable to watch from a casual spectator standpoint.


then we return to my original 'fuck the casual spectator this is teamliquid.net' standpoint!

You really cant see how appreciation and entertaining are two different things? I am not a casual spectator by any means.


quite frankly i don't see the necessity of separating the two. storkhwaiting summed it up pretty well
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
forklift
Profile Joined August 2010
United States98 Posts
October 16 2010 21:09 GMT
#4116
brutal.
NSGrendel
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom235 Posts
October 16 2010 21:09 GMT
#4117
On October 17 2010 06:08 nekuodah wrote:
Wheat loves the backdoor


"Everybody likes the back door."

Quote of the tourney, if only it had come from Mr Slave.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
October 16 2010 21:09 GMT
#4118
WHAT THE FUCK - 800 apm forcefields
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
gurilagardnr
Profile Joined October 2010
United States15 Posts
October 16 2010 21:09 GMT
#4119
THAT is how you shut down MM
Arkedo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States95 Posts
October 16 2010 21:09 GMT
#4120
great use of forcefields from kiwi
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