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"everyone likes the back door" lol
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dj wheat and his back door obsession again!  )
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"Everyone likes the back door" lol
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"everyone likes the backdoor" indeed djwheat..
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On October 17 2010 06:06 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 06:02 Piy wrote:On October 17 2010 05:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On October 17 2010 05:56 Frack wrote:On October 17 2010 05:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On October 17 2010 05:49 sleepingdog wrote:On October 17 2010 05:45 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
way to completely ignore select's incredible micro and decision-making! I just don't get why you can't complain about boring MMM-tactics AND appreciate selects play at the same time? I mean, I think select is one of the very best terrans in the western hemisphere when it comes down to micro....but still I find his gamestyle/overall-concept very predictable and boring; why does everything has to be black and white? why must it always come to either be 100% in favour or 100% against a player? there are aspects I admire about select's play and aspects I don't like; same goes for pretty much every player; what's wrong with that? if those games weren't interesting to you simply because they featured a bio ball (reading this post of yours i don't think that's the case for you, but certainly for others here) then you (using the term "you" loosely here!) are missing out on incredibly important aspects of this game and simply seeing 'well he made some marauders', that makes you a bad player and "you" should keep quiet! I fail to see how me having a supposedly "Greater understanding" of the game would change my opinion of the games i saw, i think its an elitist argument on a base level and on a greater level its not really a counter at all to what im saying, its sitting in the camp of "well you just wouldnt understand, its a bit over your head". I have said again and again that just because i thought the game was boring doesnt mean intrinsically it was to anyone else, but im allowed to have my opinion regardless. I appreciate his micro and i think he deserved the victory, but so far as being a spectator is concerned if the whole tournament was like that then id be sorely dissapointed. i don't understand how you can completely seperate yourself into two entities like that. the 'spectator' who is easily bored by seeing the same units over and over, and the 'player' who appreciates the tremendous display of skill that was select vs nony. i don't understand how ANY competitive player can be bored of a sc2 match simply because he's seen marauders before. I think his argument is that the games aren't particularly varied and that the unit mixes from Terran have been very similar in every TvP mu today, yet that doesn't prevent good players from appreciating good play. Seems like a reasonable observation right now from a spectator standpoint, the other mu's have been a lot more enjoyable to watch from a casual spectator standpoint. then we return to my original 'fuck the casual spectator this is teamliquid.net' standpoint!
You really cant see how appreciation and entertaining are two different things? I am not a casual spectator by any means.
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damn, all the good games today started super early, good thing they are releasing replays though
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Is it just me or would reapers work very, very well vs. a toss that doesn't make stalkers? I mean, lots of them as part of a normal army with marines and marauders.
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DJWheat has so much more casting experience, and there isn't much difference in their game knowledge.Last edit: 2010-10-17 06:05:55
JP is smoother. Experience has nothing to do with it.
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On October 17 2010 06:04 IntoTheBush wrote:
not hating but I think they could get a better co-commentator than DjWheat. Studders too much lol
You are treading on hollowed ground my friend.
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Everyone talking about wheat, he is awesome for a change of pace. i think lots of people watching the stream that are not super into starcraft 2 really gain from having him as the co caster. he really helps introduce competitive points and ask good questions from sean while on stream. him and day really commentate well together also neither talks over the other one.
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Unfortunately not alot of units fit through the backdoor, its quite tight.
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On October 17 2010 06:08 Frack wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2010 06:06 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On October 17 2010 06:02 Piy wrote:On October 17 2010 05:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On October 17 2010 05:56 Frack wrote:On October 17 2010 05:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On October 17 2010 05:49 sleepingdog wrote:On October 17 2010 05:45 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
way to completely ignore select's incredible micro and decision-making! I just don't get why you can't complain about boring MMM-tactics AND appreciate selects play at the same time? I mean, I think select is one of the very best terrans in the western hemisphere when it comes down to micro....but still I find his gamestyle/overall-concept very predictable and boring; why does everything has to be black and white? why must it always come to either be 100% in favour or 100% against a player? there are aspects I admire about select's play and aspects I don't like; same goes for pretty much every player; what's wrong with that? if those games weren't interesting to you simply because they featured a bio ball (reading this post of yours i don't think that's the case for you, but certainly for others here) then you (using the term "you" loosely here!) are missing out on incredibly important aspects of this game and simply seeing 'well he made some marauders', that makes you a bad player and "you" should keep quiet! I fail to see how me having a supposedly "Greater understanding" of the game would change my opinion of the games i saw, i think its an elitist argument on a base level and on a greater level its not really a counter at all to what im saying, its sitting in the camp of "well you just wouldnt understand, its a bit over your head". I have said again and again that just because i thought the game was boring doesnt mean intrinsically it was to anyone else, but im allowed to have my opinion regardless. I appreciate his micro and i think he deserved the victory, but so far as being a spectator is concerned if the whole tournament was like that then id be sorely dissapointed. i don't understand how you can completely seperate yourself into two entities like that. the 'spectator' who is easily bored by seeing the same units over and over, and the 'player' who appreciates the tremendous display of skill that was select vs nony. i don't understand how ANY competitive player can be bored of a sc2 match simply because he's seen marauders before. I think his argument is that the games aren't particularly varied and that the unit mixes from Terran have been very similar in every TvP mu today, yet that doesn't prevent good players from appreciating good play. Seems like a reasonable observation right now from a spectator standpoint, the other mu's have been a lot more enjoyable to watch from a casual spectator standpoint. then we return to my original 'fuck the casual spectator this is teamliquid.net' standpoint! You really cant see how appreciation and entertaining are two different things? I am not a casual spectator by any means.
quite frankly i don't see the necessity of separating the two. storkhwaiting summed it up pretty well
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On October 17 2010 06:08 nekuodah wrote:
Wheat loves the backdoor
"Everybody likes the back door."
Quote of the tourney, if only it had come from Mr Slave.
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WHAT THE FUCK - 800 apm forcefields
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THAT is how you shut down MM
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great use of forcefields from kiwi
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EPT
