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Dfgj

Singapore5922 Posts

October 16 2010 21:12 GMT

#4141

FORCEFIELD BONJWA

not enough units though lol

Sramota

Sweden183 Posts

October 16 2010 21:13 GMT

#4142

No wheat, select didn't have any action in the back..

Somi

Pakistan123 Posts

October 16 2010 21:13 GMT

#4143

On October 17 2010 05:52 Brad` wrote:

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They wont be uploaded until after the event. They had day 1 replays up early this morning so I expect the same timing for day 2.

Cheers Thank you Brad'

ZERG FIGGHTTING o\

sleepingdog

Austria6145 Posts

October 16 2010 21:13 GMT

#4144

On October 17 2010 06:12 Entropic wrote:
Not enough units by Kiwi... I really think it was too much teching.

yeah; council, shrine AND robo-bay is hard to support

FakeSteve[TPR]

Valhalla18444 Posts

October 16 2010 21:14 GMT

#4145

kiwi is really paying for his dt tech now

poor guy

PangO

Chile1870 Posts

October 16 2010 21:14 GMT

#4146

He needs to take down the medivacs

spybreak

United States684 Posts

October 16 2010 21:14 GMT

#4147

Make a raven pls

Dfgj

Singapore5922 Posts

October 16 2010 21:14 GMT

#4148

What I don't like is that this is really really really gas heavy.

Kiwi doesn't have any sentries and stimmed marauders with free movement can pick off small colo numbers so easily.

Lylat

France8575 Posts

October 16 2010 21:14 GMT

#4149

Hugh, it looks bad for Kiwi :/

Elefanto

Switzerland3584 Posts

October 16 2010 21:15 GMT

#4150

dts didn't pay off at all, although forcing many scans over mules
still, selects gold finishs firster, kiwi has to switch to hts asap, or he's going to be crushed by terrans mobility

nekuodah

England2409 Posts

October 16 2010 21:15 GMT

#4151

Urgh its crazy how far going 2 tech paths has put kiwi behind.

StorkHwaiting

United States3465 Posts

October 16 2010 21:15 GMT

#4152

On October 17 2010 06:12 Frack wrote:

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On October 17 2010 06:09 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:

On October 17 2010 06:08 Frack wrote:

On October 17 2010 06:06 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:

On October 17 2010 06:02 Piy wrote:

On October 17 2010 05:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:

On October 17 2010 05:56 Frack wrote:

On October 17 2010 05:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:

On October 17 2010 05:49 sleepingdog wrote:

On October 17 2010 05:45 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
way to completely ignore select's incredible micro and decision-making!

I just don't get why you can't complain about boring MMM-tactics AND appreciate selects play at the same time?

I mean, I think select is one of the very best terrans in the western hemisphere when it comes down to micro....but still I find his gamestyle/overall-concept very predictable and boring; why does everything has to be black and white? why must it always come to either be 100% in favour or 100% against a player? there are aspects I admire about select's play and aspects I don't like; same goes for pretty much every player; what's wrong with that?

if those games weren't interesting to you simply because they featured a bio ball (reading this post of yours i don't think that's the case for you, but certainly for others here) then you (using the term "you" loosely here!) are missing out on incredibly important aspects of this game and simply seeing 'well he made some marauders', that makes you a bad player and "you" should keep quiet!

I fail to see how me having a supposedly "Greater understanding" of the game would change my opinion of the games i saw, i think its an elitist argument on a base level and on a greater level its not really a counter at all to what im saying, its sitting in the camp of "well you just wouldnt understand, its a bit over your head". I have said again and again that just because i thought the game was boring doesnt mean intrinsically it was to anyone else, but im allowed to have my opinion regardless. I appreciate his micro and i think he deserved the victory, but so far as being a spectator is concerned if the whole tournament was like that then id be sorely dissapointed.

i don't understand how you can completely seperate yourself into two entities like that. the 'spectator' who is easily bored by seeing the same units over and over, and the 'player' who appreciates the tremendous display of skill that was select vs nony. i don't understand how ANY competitive player can be bored of a sc2 match simply because he's seen marauders before.

I think his argument is that the games aren't particularly varied and that the unit mixes from Terran have been very similar in every TvP mu today, yet that doesn't prevent good players from appreciating good play. Seems like a reasonable observation right now from a spectator standpoint, the other mu's have been a lot more enjoyable to watch from a casual spectator standpoint.

then we return to my original 'fuck the casual spectator this is teamliquid.net' standpoint!

You really cant see how appreciation and entertaining are two different things? I am not a casual spectator by any means.

quite frankly i don't see the necessity of separating the two. storkhwaiting summed it up pretty well

I gave you a prime example in other sports, i can give many many other examples

Maybe its part of the 1800 diamond club mentality on tl.net but the only arguments i see against seem elitist and seem to assume things about me as part of their argument which are not true, and seem to believe that my opinions is somehow irrelevant because they assume i dont understand how well Select played. You assume that i cant appreciate his micro, you assume i cant appreciate his scouting, and most of all the bridge key of the argument is you assume that because i appreciate these things i have to find it entertaining, well i do appreciate it but i dont find it entertaining, and i cant really argue better than that because whoever counters me is arguing on baseless accusations because of the general culture on here.

Basically, you're saying facts don't matter, only your opinion of what's entertaining. So quite frankly I don't give a shit what your opinion is anymore. You were trying to claim that Select's bio play was not impressive and boring. It is very impressive, and its entertainment value is an intangible based on individual opinion. Therefore, considering that all you want to do is insist on your opinion and have no facts to support it, there is no need for further discussion. Thanks and goodbye.

knyttym

United States5797 Posts

October 16 2010 21:15 GMT

#4153

Holy shit kiwi you are so fucking good.