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nekuodah

England2409 Posts

October 16 2010 21:09 GMT

#4121

YES KIWI my hero <3

knyttym

United States5797 Posts

October 16 2010 21:10 GMT

#4122

woooooooooooooooooww

Raysalis

Malaysia1034 Posts

October 16 2010 21:10 GMT

#4123

wow, nice forcefield from kiwi

SilverLeagueElite

United States626 Posts

October 16 2010 21:10 GMT

#4124

'Doing a lot of damage through the backdoor.'

Bibzball

France250 Posts

October 16 2010 21:10 GMT

#4125

Kiwi just ripped the F key out of his keyboard.

Dfgj

Singapore5922 Posts

October 16 2010 21:10 GMT

#4126

Kiwi cleans it up, great FF.

Parametric

Canada1261 Posts

October 16 2010 21:10 GMT

#4127

HOLY CRAP
gogo kiwi epic ff micro ftw jeezus WOOOOOOOOOOOO

this is what I like to watch

BlueBird.

United States3889 Posts

October 16 2010 21:10 GMT

#4128

those were some amazing forcefields at kiwi's nat man.. good job kiwi

I really like the immortal first robo play... before getting a support bay or w/e

Weavel

Finland9221 Posts

October 16 2010 21:10 GMT

#4129

kiwikaki shows his micro skills.

Sramota

Sweden183 Posts

October 16 2010 21:10 GMT

#4130

On October 17 2010 06:08 maellestrom wrote:

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You are treading on hollowed ground my friend.

How did that floor pass the quality control?

Now please leave this hollowed ground and move over to the regular hallowed ground while we lay a new foundation.

Entropic

Canada2837 Posts

October 16 2010 21:11 GMT

#4131

A bit too much teching? Went Dark Shrine then robo bay. He is waaaay ahead though after SeleCT's first failed push.

Lylat

France8575 Posts

October 16 2010 21:11 GMT

#4132

Yeah Kiwi is amazing !

Roggay

Switzerland6320 Posts

October 16 2010 21:11 GMT

#4133

Lol day9 : "I don't know if he's gonna have enough trouble with this"

sleepingdog

Austria6145 Posts

October 16 2010 21:11 GMT

#4134

DTs are a surprisingly effective anti-drop-force....unless T wants to waste a mule for every drop

kojinshugi

Estonia2559 Posts

October 16 2010 21:12 GMT

#4135

On October 17 2010 06:08 Frack wrote:
then we return to my original 'fuck the casual spectator this is teamliquid.net' standpoint!

You really cant see how appreciation and entertaining are two different things? I am not a casual spectator by any means.[/QUOTE][/quote]

I thought the idea of watching this was being entertained by great players playing well.

If your idea of entertainment is epic pixel battles...

http://www.youtube.com/user/HuskyStarcraft

TheWoodLeagueAllstar

United Kingdom617 Posts

October 16 2010 21:12 GMT

#4136

On October 17 2010 06:09 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:

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On October 17 2010 06:08 Frack wrote:

On October 17 2010 06:06 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:

On October 17 2010 06:02 Piy wrote:

On October 17 2010 05:58 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:

On October 17 2010 05:56 Frack wrote:

On October 17 2010 05:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:

On October 17 2010 05:49 sleepingdog wrote:

On October 17 2010 05:45 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
way to completely ignore select's incredible micro and decision-making!

I just don't get why you can't complain about boring MMM-tactics AND appreciate selects play at the same time?

I mean, I think select is one of the very best terrans in the western hemisphere when it comes down to micro....but still I find his gamestyle/overall-concept very predictable and boring; why does everything has to be black and white? why must it always come to either be 100% in favour or 100% against a player? there are aspects I admire about select's play and aspects I don't like; same goes for pretty much every player; what's wrong with that?

if those games weren't interesting to you simply because they featured a bio ball (reading this post of yours i don't think that's the case for you, but certainly for others here) then you (using the term "you" loosely here!) are missing out on incredibly important aspects of this game and simply seeing 'well he made some marauders', that makes you a bad player and "you" should keep quiet!

I fail to see how me having a supposedly "Greater understanding" of the game would change my opinion of the games i saw, i think its an elitist argument on a base level and on a greater level its not really a counter at all to what im saying, its sitting in the camp of "well you just wouldnt understand, its a bit over your head". I have said again and again that just because i thought the game was boring doesnt mean intrinsically it was to anyone else, but im allowed to have my opinion regardless. I appreciate his micro and i think he deserved the victory, but so far as being a spectator is concerned if the whole tournament was like that then id be sorely dissapointed.

i don't understand how you can completely seperate yourself into two entities like that. the 'spectator' who is easily bored by seeing the same units over and over, and the 'player' who appreciates the tremendous display of skill that was select vs nony. i don't understand how ANY competitive player can be bored of a sc2 match simply because he's seen marauders before.

I think his argument is that the games aren't particularly varied and that the unit mixes from Terran have been very similar in every TvP mu today, yet that doesn't prevent good players from appreciating good play. Seems like a reasonable observation right now from a spectator standpoint, the other mu's have been a lot more enjoyable to watch from a casual spectator standpoint.

then we return to my original 'fuck the casual spectator this is teamliquid.net' standpoint!

You really cant see how appreciation and entertaining are two different things? I am not a casual spectator by any means.

quite frankly i don't see the necessity of separating the two. storkhwaiting summed it up pretty well

I gave you a prime example in other sports, i can give many many other examples

Maybe its part of the 1800 diamond club mentality on tl.net but the only arguments i see against seem elitist and seem to assume things about me as part of their argument which are not true, and seem to believe that my opinions is somehow irrelevant because they assume i dont understand how well Select played. You assume that i cant appreciate his micro, you assume i cant appreciate his scouting, and most of all the bridge key of the argument is you assume that because i appreciate these things i have to find it entertaining, well i do appreciate it but i dont find it entertaining, and i cant really argue better than that because whoever counters me is arguing on baseless accusations because of the general culture on here.