EPTIt seems shitty to me that Blizzard is willing to take money out of tournament's prizepools as IP fees yet they still won't release the technology needed to run a real competitive tournament. It seems like they only pay attention when it's time to collect.
What is your opinion on the Parting/MKP decision in the GS…
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
It seems shitty to me that Blizzard is willing to take money out of tournament's prizepools as IP fees yet they still won't release the technology needed to run a real competitive tournament. It seems like they only pay attention when it's time to collect. | ||
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Cyanocyst
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Ferr3t
21 Posts
1) PartinG had his army split up. If PartinG would have lost the Zealots to MKP's remaining forces and those about to pop, the food supply would be very different. 2) PartinG didn't have a forward pylon. MKP had 6 Vikings to snipe the Warp Prism. 3) MKP's units that were about to pop were already paid for. PartinG on the other hand had only a bit more than 300 minerals at the time of the drop, which is less than MKP still had available for another round of units. 4) Ironically, in the very next game (MKP vs. Bomber) we saw that games that look like a sealed deal are easy to throw away. Don't understand me wrong, PartinG had a good advantage going for him, but he wasn't in a position to win the game without at least one more major engagement at MKP's base after his units popped. Since that engagement didn't happen, anyone could guess the outcome. | ||
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my0s
United States193 Posts
I don't think giving the win to parting was a decision the judges could have actually made in that decision and situation, there was just so much on the line with it being vs mkp. But on the other hand, I also feel Parting deserved a win more than a regame. Just a tough spot. (Though I am probably most in favor of making it a bo3 with parting up 1-0) | ||
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Kira__
Sweden2672 Posts
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INTOtheVOID
United States225 Posts
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
On April 11 2012 04:23 Fryioq wrote: I think the problem with NOT doing a re-game is that you need a clear definition for what someone is clearly winning to be. Since no such thing exists (maybe it should, and should be discussed as to what would constitute that) regame is really the only fair option I feel. While I do agree that Parting was quite far ahead, and in an excellent position to win, it wasn't a 100% clearcut, no one can say otherwise win situation. Because of that regame is the fair choice. I've heard that maybe in such a case where someone is ahead and not 100% going to win, they change it to a Bo3 with the better looking person one game up? Im not sure, but a new rule has to be put in place to deal with these situations. Either some definition of what "100% going to win" is or Some alternate set up where perhaps a Bo3 or something similar is held where the person with the advantage has a game already? Otherwise re-game seems the correct position, given the rules. It's not a robotic judgement call. It requires some judgement and some balls to make a call. I think the refs just thought there was a slight chance for a miracle and called a regame. | ||
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
On April 12 2012 10:16 zefreak wrote: They also said that about the final game of Nestea vs Mvp at Blizzcon, when Nestea was ahead in every way and just threw away his army and econ lead in poor engagements and poor decisions. Games shouldn't be awarded on probable outcome assuming people play perfectly. Look at Bomber vs MKP that very same night. If Bomber had just sat back and defended instead of sacrificing his 3rd and going for a delayed base-trade he would have won almost 100% of the time. People make poor decisions, Parting included. Judges should always err on the side of regame unless the game was literally over at time of disconnect. Re-games shouldn't be awarded on improbable outcome assuming one plays while having a seizure. | ||
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masakenji
Australia415 Posts
the decision was forced upon by the crowds, and lack of experience. very bad call, hopefully gomtv can learn from it. always take the long term, never the short. this gstl will be forever tainted. | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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Dwayn
Germany949 Posts
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berndniph
95 Posts
On April 11 2012 17:55 epicdemic wrote: The majority of the people in the poll thinks regame was not the right decision. And also, since there are more MKP fanboys than Squirtle fanboys, probably it was not the right decision  i just want to point out that the poll is very close. so how could the referees decide this, there was no "right" decision to make. impossible. an because of this, if a game is not 100% decided the rule says regame (correct me if im wrong). | ||
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berndniph
95 Posts
On April 12 2012 16:58 Dwayn wrote: Regame was the dumbest decision possible. give parting the win or sth. like a Bo3 with parting 1 game ahead (and even that is a very good result for MKP). changing the rules druing the tournament is pretty impossible. maybe for the future, but for this game it was no option. | ||
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iEatWoofers
Switzerland108 Posts
The crowd yelling for LAN was funny though :D must've been quite fun for mr. morhaime  | ||
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Fizzy
Sweden388 Posts
Im not as hightech and handy as most of you other TL'ers, so i dont really know how to make or where to send an petition or something like it. But imo we should not argue over the rematch but instead join hands and try to make sure such a decision does not have to be made again. Make love not warcraft | ||
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sc_hell
Germany20 Posts
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On April 11 2012 02:38 Amestir wrote: Not voting, I think the best option would be to make it a Bo3 with Parting starting 1 - 0. This! I hope they implement this solution at tournaments in similar situations in the future | ||
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FrodoFraggin
Italy32 Posts
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Herry
England681 Posts
This is a great example of why Blizzard really needs to give the big finals closed enviornments so shit like this doesn't happen. when you concider the facts, and unless you're biased toward Prime you cannot see any other fair result of that game other than Parting winning. | ||
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FlukyS
Ireland485 Posts
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