The game would have crashed even with LAN involved. It was a DHCP router problem caused by the hotel, as was brought forth on Sunday as the explanation. Which is believable, as we had another drop on Saturday. People being computer illiterate and unable to setup a router ain't really blizzards fault.

I remember when Jaedong was awarded the win over Flash and trashed the finals of MSL a long time ago.

I believe a regame is almost always the right option unless there is no chance of coming back. To not do so is to discredit micro etc. etc.

epicdemic

Netherlands137 Posts

April 11 2012 08:43 GMT

#102

On April 11 2012 16:56 Blacktion wrote:
Parting had hardly any money, he couldnt keep up the warp ins he needed to finish the game there. If it didnt DC, MKP pulls scvs when his next round of rax units is out and holds that attack.
Was parting ahead? Yes. Was the game over? No.
Regame.
EDIT: The new korean starcraft organisation should get together with IPL, MLG and IEM and possibly kespa if this switching business is actually happening and get on blizzards case about LAN. So much money/prestige on the line and games are being fucked up by easily avoidable netwrok issues? Come on Blizzard. Seriously.

Pulling SCV's against HT.. Yeah right. You sir are very smart.

epicdemic

Netherlands137 Posts

April 11 2012 08:55 GMT

#103

On April 11 2012 17:00 berndniph wrote:
the poll says it all.

regame was the right decision.

The majority of the people in the poll thinks regame was not the right decision. And also, since there are more MKP fanboys than Squirtle fanboys, probably it was not the right decision

ghosthunter

United States414 Posts

April 11 2012 09:05 GMT

#104

On April 11 2012 17:55 epicdemic wrote:

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The majority of the people in the poll thinks regame was not the right decision. And also, since there are more MKP fanboys than Squirtle fanboys, probably it was not the right decision

42% is not a majority, adding a smiley face does not make your point any more valid or less insulting

epicdemic

Netherlands137 Posts

April 11 2012 09:35 GMT

#105

On April 11 2012 18:05 ghosthunter wrote:

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42% is not a majority, adding a smiley face does not make your point any more valid or less insulting

1248 think that it was the wrong decision.
1070 think it was the right decision.

>> majority. Sometimes math is very hard. This is not one of those times.

ConRa

Sweden42 Posts

April 11 2012 09:45 GMT

#106

Parting had that game won, he didn't deserve a regame.

InfusedTT.DaZe

Romania693 Posts

April 11 2012 11:33 GMT

#107

On April 11 2012 03:18 00Visor wrote:
relevant: (I didnt do this)
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its so clear, also alot of people voted with heart(for mkp and prime) so...

Mirrikh

Romania105 Posts

April 11 2012 11:38 GMT

#108

I don't think this pool is good, because there is no option to say MarineKing wins if there is no disconnect. Thus the pool is made in favor of Parting to start with.

Terranicle

5 Posts

April 11 2012 11:46 GMT

#109

Whole thing seems kinda pointless to discuss since the outcome already happened. If you're hoping to set some sort of precident then it might be more worthwhile, but that doesn't seem to be happening right now.

The entertaining parts of this thread are the random percentages people are pulling out of thin air: "Parting had it won 99.5%". Really? 99.5% won? How are you quantifying that? He was ahead, admittedly, but thrashing your hand on your numpad to produce an arbitrary percentage detracts from any impact a statement might have.

Things I think should start to be discussed are how to avoid this situation in the future. How do people feel about certain conditions leading to an auto-win? What should those conditions be?

X amount of army supply ahead?
X amount of total supply ahead?
Production structures being camped?
Gametime elapsed?
A combination of these or more, or less?

Conversely what conditions should result in a re-game?

Army supply within X amount of eachother?
Total supply within X amount of eachother?
Gametime elapsed?

Who can set these standards? Should they be set? Or do you enjoy the drama caused afterwards too much?

Gastronucci

Denmark11 Posts

April 11 2012 11:53 GMT

#110

3 marauders and 6 vikings, MKP easily denies the warpprism and Parting has to warp and Walk across the map to take the advantage, yes MKP looses the 3 rax that are being attack my protoss ground army. Parting JUST transfered probes, so he needs a little time for the income to really kick in for those 15 warp ins pple are talking about. Parting obviously has the clear advantage but in no way is it 90% or more for victory. more like 7/10.

EDIT - FML

Lazzi

Switzerland1923 Posts

April 11 2012 11:54 GMT

#111

I think there was no good thing to do : regame is not fair for the one who's ahead, say Parting win is unfair for MKP because he could do a comeback. The only good answer to that is auto-save game which doesn't exist yet...

Skaminator

112 Posts

April 11 2012 13:17 GMT

#112

As some1 earlier said, if not the fact that MKP was the fan favourite, the game would go to Parting.

noddy

United Kingdom927 Posts

April 11 2012 13:55 GMT

#113

The regame happened. No point making a new thread about it every day, it won't change the fact that Parting played bad the second game.

docvoc

United States5491 Posts

April 11 2012 14:40 GMT

#114

Seems like Parting was in a commanding lead with the supply, and those that assume MKP might have won point only to the fact that MKP could out-micro Parting, but that assumes Parting himself does not micro nearly as much or produce to continue the supply deficit. Parting was in what looked like a large lead at the time with a better econ, bigger army, idk if he had more map vision or not, but he did have the lead. I believe a regame is the sportsman like thing to do, but they should have consulted the players themselves on whether or not MKP had a shot in the game, or at least watched the replay to see if it was evident that MKP could not come back. I'm gonna say Parting should have been given the game, but i guess their logic was, "we can't tell who could definitively win, and if Parting won once, if he is truly better, he can win again"

AethariA

Canada22 Posts

April 11 2012 15:28 GMT

#115

I think it should have turned into a Bo3 with Parting up 1-0. However, being a huge MKP fan, I'm glad he won, even though Parting should have been called the winner

Crazyglue

United States17 Posts

April 11 2012 16:58 GMT

#116

When in doubt, regame.

That simple

DidYuhim

Ukraine1905 Posts

April 11 2012 17:02 GMT

#117

It's just that GOM didn't want to see PRIME getting all-killed by PartinG on that night.

SmuZ

Romania45 Posts

April 11 2012 18:56 GMT

#118

Marinekings micro is amazing, when I saw that game I was like lol ... My opinion is that Parting could win that game but actually Marineking deserved that one

leperphilliac

United States399 Posts

April 11 2012 19:02 GMT

#119

I would have liked a best of 3 or giving the win to parting, but I don't really hold anybody to blame for it assuming that the regame policy was in the rules in the first place.

JMDj

United States454 Posts

April 11 2012 19:23 GMT

#120

On April 11 2012 18:35 epicdemic wrote:

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1248 think that it was the wrong decision.
1070 think it was the right decision.

>> majority. Sometimes math is very hard. This is not one of those times.

You're thinking of a plurality, not a majority. Majority is 50% or more.

I think parting should have been given the win. Obviously Startale was banking heavily on Parting taking out MKP as he is definitely the most capable Terran sniper on the team. Anyone who knows Starcraft would understand that a player of Parting's caliber was not going to lose from that position.