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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 22:43 GMT
#581
Pft. ##unvote

##vote: Tubesock

I don't want to lynch noob
don't want to lynch df
have no good reason I don't want to lynch prp other than a really dumb tonal thing but whatever, I can be committed to dumb for a second

FF I guess I'll give a chance to because hells if I know how to read him and it should work himself out

I don't think I have the time to put in to suss out AMG

Which just lands me here, or, ironically, Kelsier lol >< Also something tinfoily regarding tube's alignment that makes me want to see the flip
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 22:45 GMT
#584
On March 08 2018 07:41 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 07:37 rsoultin wrote:
On March 08 2018 07:28 Vivax wrote:

##Unvote
##Vote: Noobking


Cause he still hasn't explained how the hell he goes from summing up reasons for voting prpl, then voting Kelsier instead when tubesock isn't happening.


Yeah, no. Not voting for him.

Saying you have 'no reason' to townread someone does not read to me as more scummy than outright saying you think afkers this game are more likely to be scum because of the balance. I don't necessarily agree with his thoughts, but the vote makes sense in context to me.


Well the explanation isn't coming today either, but in my opinion what he did is serious bs. Serious scummy BS.
I find his filter pretty hard to follow and will probably reserve an hour or so tomorrow reading it as he wasn't spare with words.

Currently just juggling the question: prplhz or df if noobking isn't happening for what he did.


I'll take prp over df. I really think df is town here, though I'm not going to pretend that he's someone that I'm sure I can read. But why not tube?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 22:47 GMT
#585
VOTECOUNT WOULD BE NICE
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 22:49 GMT
#590
Especially on mobile, but this is hardly any better. I've no idea if I need to move.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 22:50 GMT
#591
On March 08 2018 07:48 Calix wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count

darthfoley (2): Holyflare, Fecalfeast, Vivax
prplhz (2): AMG, Fecalfeast (x), darthfoley
Tubesock (2): Holyflare (x), n00bking (x), AMG (x), MoosyDoosy, rsoultin
MoosyDoosy (1): Tubesock
Fecalfeast (0): darthfoley (x), rsoultin (x)
KelsierSC (1): n00bking
n00bking (1): Vivax
Damdred (0): rsoultin (x)
Vivax (0): rsoultin (x), Fecalfeast (x)

Not Voting (4): chaoser, prplhz, Damdred, KelsierSC


Thanks, but I think that makes it technically Tube with DF's switch.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 22:52 GMT
#595
Viiiivaaa you're doing the same thing as noob. Unless you think you're going to convince more people it's time to consolidate.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 22:54 GMT
#599
On March 08 2018 07:52 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 07:45 rsoultin wrote:
On March 08 2018 07:41 Vivax wrote:
On March 08 2018 07:37 rsoultin wrote:
On March 08 2018 07:28 Vivax wrote:

##Unvote
##Vote: Noobking


Cause he still hasn't explained how the hell he goes from summing up reasons for voting prpl, then voting Kelsier instead when tubesock isn't happening.


Yeah, no. Not voting for him.

Saying you have 'no reason' to townread someone does not read to me as more scummy than outright saying you think afkers this game are more likely to be scum because of the balance. I don't necessarily agree with his thoughts, but the vote makes sense in context to me.


Well the explanation isn't coming today either, but in my opinion what he did is serious bs. Serious scummy BS.
I find his filter pretty hard to follow and will probably reserve an hour or so tomorrow reading it as he wasn't spare with words.

Currently just juggling the question: prplhz or df if noobking isn't happening for what he did.


I'll take prp over df. I really think df is town here, though I'm not going to pretend that he's someone that I'm sure I can read. But why not tube?


Hard to find an answer to that within 10 minutes. Right off the bat there is no reason not to lynch tube that comes to mind. I'd have kept him over prpl for D1. But since prpl isn't voting, might as well vote TS.

The vote doesn't sit too right with me after arguing lots of the day about all his qualms with AMG and noobking, but what alternative do I have?

Literally the only reason I have is the lack of scumhunting, but it's hard to tell if it's cause he was pushed into the defensive or cause he's mafia.

meh

##Unvote
##Vote: Tubesock


I feel we gave him enough space. I don't know that he's scum. That's the shitty thing about this game because I have to be wrong about something, pretty sure. But I do feel that if town he had enough space to do something with it. He hasn't been under continuous pressure at all.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 22:55 GMT
#600
On March 08 2018 07:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Just a second too late rsoultin :D


Lol nah, if Viva's town it's good for him not to give me more reasons to doubt him. There's enough of that happening with players in this game anyway.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 22:56 GMT
#604
On March 08 2018 07:55 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 07:55 rsoultin wrote:
On March 08 2018 07:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Just a second too late rsoultin :D


Lol nah, if Viva's town it's good for him not to give me more reasons to doubt him. There's enough of that happening with players in this game anyway.

Want to elaborate on the doubts night phase?


Sure. Viva I'm happy with, though. That was more a reference to earlier and my momentary discomfort with his staying on noob.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 22:59 GMT
#607
This is a game where I wish I were a cop lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 23:00 GMT
#609
On March 08 2018 07:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Hm. Either this game is really easy or something else is going on.

The quiet is making me antsy too -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 23:03 GMT
#613
meh
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 23:14 GMT
#622
On March 08 2018 08:03 darthfoley wrote:
Meh I thought we got him considering he was lurking at deadline


Yeah...

I'm actually warming up to Vivax's AMG read more.

On March 08 2018 07:16 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 06:56 Vivax wrote:
On March 08 2018 06:03 AMG wrote:
On March 08 2018 00:08 Vivax wrote:
Follow up by AMG looks better at glance given he sticks his head in many different places and generally gives off a vibe of wanting to do stuff which is a plus for him on D1. Doesn't allow me to exclude him as mafia though.

I don't see what would have required catching up in regards to his initial tubesock read however. It remains a read that is essentially based on Tube being prickly entirely, except that the actual vote happens only when Noobking votes.

His initial impression that Tube is prickly goes from being an observation to an explanation for why it is scummy to a vote for other reasons.

It looks like he reacts to his own posts to keep up a narrative in this case.
I see it like this could have happened:

Townie overreacts to other townie, AMG spots possible fault by TS, calls him prickly but doesn't go with it anywhere. So he needs to make a followup posts telling us that he thinks it's a mafia trait cause the previous post alone in the room would look bad.
Only when Noobking attacks Tubesock AMG decides to vote for him, and he does it by rehashing/agreeing with what Noobking said.

So AMG was kind of looking for reasons to get onto Tubesock purely for the reason he called him prickly already, and since his own reason didn't get enough pull, he only felt like he had the opportunity to do so when Noobking voted first.

This is summed up what's not right with AMG in my opinion.


You completely overlook the reason I take issue with tubesock which I've gone over two or three times now. His pricklyness catches my eye, as did him having a read that conflicted with mine, so I challenged his read. He refused to discuss anything with me at all, like he didn't give a shit about my alignment and had no drive to find out why I had a different opinion to him.


Except all of this happened not at once but you went from prickly->didn't fight your read->disengaged in your argumentation where you placed your vote at the final one after noobking did.

So I can see you as mafia just building on your previous posts reacting to what you wrote to create a tubesock scumread which was consistent with what you already wrote, especially cause of your decision on when to place the vote (when another one already did)

_____

I am actually open to the idea I'm wrong on either of you atm and after reading a bit of tube (since he talks about himself instead of finding mafia most of the time, but could be cause he's been in the defensive).

And cause I'm always hesitant to lynch possible assets D1 I'm checking if there might be other ones worth lynching over df.

Since you are so hung up on tube though I'd expect you to bring forward something more than what you already have and your read on him hasn't evolved much from that point onwards.


I'm a single parent that works. Activity will not be consistent. And when I return to the thread with a point to make, only to see someone has already said it, I see no need to repeat what I'm saying.

And if you can't follow along with my thought process on why I've stepped away from my tubesock read, and, i was being nice about it up until this point, I'll absolutely spell it out for you: he's playing too stupid for me to expect logical and sensible responses and play from and I've gleaned that from our most recent conversation. Therefore I wont be calling him scum for not living up to the expectations that I have of him, I'm going to call him dumb town and move on to discussing other players.


So I was about to say that there is no way this lines up with the 'doesn't feel like scum' reaction to Tube not trying to make reads to save himself. But I think I'd rather ask you to reconcile those two, AMG, if you can.

The thing for me is while I liked some of his posting independently, the scumreads are pretty boring.

"You didn't talk to me when I had a different read" @tube
"You said people when I only am scumreading one person" "you say you'd normally agree with the reasoning for the tube lynch" (and be wrong) "but you take issue with me jumping on it for a different reason" @prp

There's like nothing whatsoever to these scumreads. By contrast, his townreads are fairly well-reasoned.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 23:15 GMT
#623
On March 08 2018 08:12 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 08:06 Holyflare wrote:
I'm healing df.


What happened to your statement that df is n1 kill though


multiple healer stacks = vig shot
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 23:18 GMT
#624
Also, I'd prefer a night lynch to cowboy gunslingers.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 23:23 GMT
#626
On March 08 2018 08:20 Vivax wrote:
In this case it might be smart to decide who gets vigged tonight. Assuming that df is town, we can decide that he can heal someone undisclosed. While town can direct the other two medics to kill someone voting or something.

As for HFs claim, I'll assume it can be true but doesn't have to.


Lol, I'm not commenting on who I do or don't believe.

Just in my world if both claims are true, the chances of three townies dying in the night go up and that's hardly optimal. An organized night vig is better by far.

Though if we want to try for a df save with the stipulation that if you're not df (whether you think he's scum or not) you don't try to save anyone, that's fine by me.

"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 23:25 GMT
#627
Anyway, it's way past time for bed.

I don't know how much time I'll have (or take) tomorrow, since I actually get a Lexy for an evening for once and have other things to do tomorrow, but I'll try to be on in the morning.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 08 2018 06:42 GMT
#656
On March 08 2018 14:33 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 07:26 rsoultin wrote:
I'll openly admit that I could probably be easily fooled by a scum df (and yes blatantly ignoring the claim cause whatevs) but I'm just not finding the arguments against him compelling when his read on me developed fairly naturally I thought.

There were arguments against him that I didn't find compelling either, obviously. But "ignoring the claim" is generous, because in a vacuum, it actually makes him more likely to be scum than if he'd not said it.


I don't agree. Maybe I'm not seeing something important, though.

Also you're right about the triple stack medic being smarter.

I'll try to make my AMG read more clear. As well as what I mean regarding DF's read on me since hf appears to be stuck on the 'he called you town thrice!' train.

@Moosy, I'm not sure why I'm suddenly top town to you? I effectively forced a tube lynch with my vote, and I'm really not at all sure that prp is town. Nor do i recall you townreading him?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 08 2018 07:40 GMT
#660
Ah, I see your logic, noob. You just have more faith than I do that a vanilla town wouldn't fake claim lol.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 08 2018 07:47 GMT
#662
On March 08 2018 16:45 Holyflare wrote:
I'm still healing df with the other 2 medics.


You may be right. I don't think so, but then I'm hardly infallible.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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