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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 07 2018 22:25 GMT
#561
holyflare, do you think darthfoley has more of a chance to flip red than tubesock?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 22:26 GMT
#562
On March 08 2018 00:45 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 05:12 darthfoley wrote:
Okay i've caught up.

AMG and n00b are pretty townie ATM. I think Damdred is kinda townie right now actually, for once. Maybe rsoultin too, because I agree with her about Tubesock. He might be mafia, but not for the reasons HF is pushing. The medic thing is really NAI even if it's "strange"

Lynch pool of prplhz, FF and Tubesock for the time being. I really didn't like how FF announced his first read, then felt the need to explain why he's scumreading prplhz in the next post. I think you either 1) do both in one post or 2) announce your scum read, then explain it if asked. Just felt a tad like he's trying to make sure everyone knows he has reasoning behind his scumread, if that makes sense.


A loveless post.

This dude and this dude are town atm.
I think this dude is kinda townie right now actually, for once [are you sure you didn't forget to add anything, df]
Maybe this dudess is is town too because I agree with her about that dude.

Lynch these three dudes for the time being. Here's an explanation for one of them: I didn't like that he didn't post both read and reasons in one post [which could be said for AMG].

Peace out.


Ah. Yeah...this isn't really compelling for me, either. It's not much different from HF's points. The reads felt like they developed organically enough to me.

I'll openly admit that I could probably be easily fooled by a scum df (and yes blatantly ignoring the claim cause whatevs) but I'm just not finding the arguments against him compelling when his read on me developed fairly naturally I thought.

Your issue with AMG resonated with me more, probably because I didn't really care for his reaction to Tube's return. That was an awfully quick about-face based on a 'suicide' that wasn't really a suicide from my point of view.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 07 2018 22:26 GMT
#563
On March 08 2018 07:23 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 07:20 darthfoley wrote:
On March 08 2018 07:19 rsoultin wrote:
On March 08 2018 07:13 darthfoley wrote:
On March 08 2018 07:11 Vivax wrote:
If I'm already talking about Tube and AMG and your response is just "I'm a medic no lyncherino pls" then I don't know how to spark interest into you finding a better lynch other than yourself.


I disagree with you about AMG and I think Tubesock is a decent lynch and the points against him have been hashed out already. I'm not sure what you expect of me?

I think FeFe/prplhz/Tubesock are good lynches. I prefer FeFe or prplhz over Tubesock, but Tubesock is fine.

Don't lecture me about interest when you magically come into the thread as a wagon forms on you and have a filter 1/4 of mine


Yeah that was the one point. I don't think that you ever mentioned your reasons for tubesock, though I was filtering by mobile so take that with a grain of salt.


I can't remember Tubesock actually pushing anyone. He's been on the defensive all game, and I also disagree with his town read on prplhz


That'd be my issue with tube too. Reactive and self-centered filter, but you're also somewhere in that category for me.

I'd feel a lot better about lynching you if HF wasn't trying so hard to keep you on the block as I'm not sure what he is yet.


idk what HF is doing but i'm ignoring him for now
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 07 2018 22:27 GMT
#564
On March 08 2018 07:10 n00bKing wrote:
Ok, I'm off.

Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 06:32 n00bKing wrote:
Does anyone agree with HF's assessment of DF's play in other games?

Didn't see any backup on this, but to my eyes, the DF lynch doesn't thrill me.

The push on Tubesock has been going for a long time, without much result, so I guess it's not happening today.

##Unvote

Would love to see this happen:

##Vote: KelsierSC




uhhh what? where exactly is this coming from?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 07 2018 22:27 GMT
#565
On March 08 2018 07:13 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 07:10 n00bKing wrote:
Ok, I'm off.

On March 08 2018 06:32 n00bKing wrote:
Does anyone agree with HF's assessment of DF's play in other games?

Didn't see any backup on this, but to my eyes, the DF lynch doesn't thrill me.

The push on Tubesock has been going for a long time, without much result, so I guess it's not happening today.

##Unvote

Would love to see this happen:

##Vote: KelsierSC


Why him over prpl?

Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 15:13 n00bKing wrote:
Re: What Tubesock liked about Prpl's filter
On March 07 2018 10:45 Tubesock wrote:
I like how he did it too. As mafia I don't think he would have defended me like he did. I think he would have been more firm in either the defense or attack.

So being wishy-washy is a Town trait now? There's nothing to like about Prpl's play, in my opinion. All he's done is claim Cop, be vague and non-committal about whether he thinks you should be pushed, be vague and non-committal about suspicions that AMG's reads feel forced, and talk about a SK role that we know isn't in the game. I never like it when people say something like "I'm interested in seeing where this goes though." Just means they have no plans of making it go somewhere themselves...so I think to myself....then what good are you?


good man vivax
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 07 2018 22:28 GMT
#566
On March 08 2018 07:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
holyflare, do you think darthfoley has more of a chance to flip red than tubesock?


I have no idea but I feel quite strongly about df. He hasn't pushed a single god damn thing and hasn't even been the centre of attention like tube to detract from it.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 22:28 GMT
#567
##vote: FecalFeast

^ This is kind of a halfway placeholder.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 07 2018 22:28 GMT
#568
On March 08 2018 07:17 darthfoley wrote:
##unvote

##Vote: prplhz

you didn't bold unvote so I don't think this vote counted as a btw
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 07 2018 22:28 GMT
#569

##Unvote
##Vote: Noobking


Cause he still hasn't explained how the hell he goes from summing up reasons for voting prpl, then voting Kelsier instead when tubesock isn't happening.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 07 2018 22:30 GMT
#570
I'm not gonna be here to defend myself in the final minutes so I'm a good shenanigan target but you probably shouldn't kill me
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 07 2018 22:30 GMT
#571
On March 08 2018 07:28 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 07:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
holyflare, do you think darthfoley has more of a chance to flip red than tubesock?


I have no idea but I feel quite strongly about df. He hasn't pushed a single god damn thing and hasn't even been the centre of attention like tube to detract from it.

Has Tube done anything townie for you to vote darth over him or are both tube and darth scummy for you atm with darth just being more scummy
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 07 2018 22:31 GMT
#572
On March 08 2018 07:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm not gonna be here to defend myself in the final minutes so I'm a good shenanigan target but you probably shouldn't kill me


Totally not a medic claim?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 22:34 GMT
#573
Tch. Like on the one hand I totally agree with you Vivax on the off-wagon vote over scumread. But I felt his game up to this point was pretty towny ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 07 2018 22:37 GMT
#574
My biggest issue with Tube so far is that in his return to the thread he doesn't do anything remotely town-like but I really don't think this is a case of "too mafia to be mafia". The dude legitimately doesn't make a case, asks a bunch of questions and fills up 2 pages of material that is hardly worth looking at, then decides to make a vote on me.

To be honest I don't have a problem with the fact that he voted me but the basis of his vote is super....weird.

On March 08 2018 00:56 Tubesock wrote:
I'm never voting Vivax.

##Vote: MoosyDoosy

I didn't like our interaction, I felt like he was trying to keep me tilted and on the defensive. I completely disagree that I was reaching for straws and seeing what could stick and also disagree that that would even make someone mafia. Generally, it's someone who's on the chopping block.

There's around a 50% chance I won't be back before deadline, but if I am I will be "gone" till two hours prior. I'll be around for 30 more minutes or so then I will "leave".

There isn't one solid thing that makes me mafia in this argument as far as I can tell and him feeling like I'm trying to keep him tilted and defensive is just his perception to pressure not so much me attempting to tilt him.

What also makes me hate this is how he stresses multiple times that it's just "different thought processes" and not necessarily a reason to vote.

On March 07 2018 14:12 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 05:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Metagame. Damdred said this is what he'd expect from town rsoultin so she might be doing it as scum to make him she's town. I might be getting super tinfoily here which is why I'm asking for feedback.


Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
If anything, rsoultin changes her reads to conform to Damdred's over time. Considering how hard Damdred townread rsoultin I think she's metagaming him to seem townie and working around his reads because she knows he can read her.


I didn't see the FecalFeast response. But are these the quotes?

I don't see how the hardness of Damdred's read is relevant to Rsoultins alignment. Sure, it speaks to the success of the metagame sure but you are not answering why town Rsoultin wouldn't do the same thing? If Rsoultin as town acts X way, wouldn't it stand to reason she would do X regardless of Damdred's expectation?

I didn't have any problems with her changing of reads. I don't think it aligned with Damdred since he didn't exactly leave a bunch. Why wouldn't she try to align with you since you are making a big deal about soulreading? You also remarked how you thought exactly the same as her concerning me. So, doesn't seem you're entirely on different planets. Like you and I are on different planets for sure. AMG also. Doesn't really make for mafia though.

Which led me to asking you why you townread Damdred. The only thing I saw was the post I already pointed out and asked about. Cause it's a little weird that you are hard towning Damdred for very little. For your tinfoil to work, Damdred must be town...so you obviously are hard towning him. So, what did I miss about that "Good man, it won't be me (it was)" speak to you so deeply?

See bolded. Also this isn't going into how I really don't like the questions he asks because I'm not sure what value he's trying to get out of them.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 22:37 GMT
#575
On March 08 2018 07:28 Vivax wrote:

##Unvote
##Vote: Noobking


Cause he still hasn't explained how the hell he goes from summing up reasons for voting prpl, then voting Kelsier instead when tubesock isn't happening.


Yeah, no. Not voting for him.

Saying you have 'no reason' to townread someone does not read to me as more scummy than outright saying you think afkers this game are more likely to be scum because of the balance. I don't necessarily agree with his thoughts, but the vote makes sense in context to me.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 07 2018 22:39 GMT
#576
Do people have specific reasons or posts from Tubesock that they liked and think make him not Mafia?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 07 2018 22:40 GMT
#577
On March 08 2018 07:37 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 07:28 Vivax wrote:

##Unvote
##Vote: Noobking


Cause he still hasn't explained how the hell he goes from summing up reasons for voting prpl, then voting Kelsier instead when tubesock isn't happening.


Yeah, no. Not voting for him.

Saying you have 'no reason' to townread someone does not read to me as more scummy than outright saying you think afkers this game are more likely to be scum because of the balance. I don't necessarily agree with his thoughts, but the vote makes sense in context to me.

I am in the same boat as rsoultin here. I also think noobking is being strange as fuck here but I think he did say he was gone in his last post so we'd have to wait until he gets back to explain himself. I don't think the call is to lynch him for one strange thing when we have better targets from all of day phase.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 07 2018 22:41 GMT
#578
On March 08 2018 07:37 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 07:28 Vivax wrote:

##Unvote
##Vote: Noobking


Cause he still hasn't explained how the hell he goes from summing up reasons for voting prpl, then voting Kelsier instead when tubesock isn't happening.


Yeah, no. Not voting for him.

Saying you have 'no reason' to townread someone does not read to me as more scummy than outright saying you think afkers this game are more likely to be scum because of the balance. I don't necessarily agree with his thoughts, but the vote makes sense in context to me.


Well the explanation isn't coming today either, but in my opinion what he did is serious bs. Serious scummy BS.
I find his filter pretty hard to follow and will probably reserve an hour or so tomorrow reading it as he wasn't spare with words.

Currently just juggling the question: prplhz or df if noobking isn't happening for what he did.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 07 2018 22:42 GMT
#579
I'll (Z)Sheep just about anything at this point
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 07 2018 22:42 GMT
#580
But my break is over so I guess I won't
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
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