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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 07 2018 22:00 GMT
#541
a leap and a mile
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22284 Posts
March 07 2018 22:01 GMT
#542
Disregard this


Since you are so hung up on tube though I'd expect you to bring forward something more than what you already have and your read on him hasn't evolved much from that point onwards.


I just remembered you townread him afterwards for some reason. Kind of interesting that you type this though:


You completely overlook the reason I take issue with tubesock


Why take? I thought you changed him back to town?
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 07 2018 22:06 GMT
#543
Okay well there's less than an hour so whatever

i'm a medic so let's not lynch me
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 07 2018 22:07 GMT
#544
hahahaha
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22284 Posts
March 07 2018 22:09 GMT
#545
DF your odds decrease drastically as time moves on where you don't try to find a lynch that is better than you. As in: Go scumhunt right now and convince me and HF that someone is more mafia than you.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
March 07 2018 22:10 GMT
#546
Ok, I'm off.

On March 08 2018 06:32 n00bKing wrote:
Does anyone agree with HF's assessment of DF's play in other games?

Didn't see any backup on this, but to my eyes, the DF lynch doesn't thrill me.

The push on Tubesock has been going for a long time, without much result, so I guess it's not happening today.

##Unvote

Would love to see this happen:

##Vote: KelsierSC



Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22284 Posts
March 07 2018 22:11 GMT
#547
If I'm already talking about Tube and AMG and your response is just "I'm a medic no lyncherino pls" then I don't know how to spark interest into you finding a better lynch other than yourself.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 07 2018 22:13 GMT
#548
On March 08 2018 07:11 Vivax wrote:
If I'm already talking about Tube and AMG and your response is just "I'm a medic no lyncherino pls" then I don't know how to spark interest into you finding a better lynch other than yourself.


I disagree with you about AMG and I think Tubesock is a decent lynch and the points against him have been hashed out already. I'm not sure what you expect of me?

I think FeFe/prplhz/Tubesock are good lynches. I prefer FeFe or prplhz over Tubesock, but Tubesock is fine.

Don't lecture me about interest when you magically come into the thread as a wagon forms on you and have a filter 1/4 of mine
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22284 Posts
March 07 2018 22:13 GMT
#549
On March 08 2018 07:10 n00bKing wrote:
Ok, I'm off.

Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 06:32 n00bKing wrote:
Does anyone agree with HF's assessment of DF's play in other games?

Didn't see any backup on this, but to my eyes, the DF lynch doesn't thrill me.

The push on Tubesock has been going for a long time, without much result, so I guess it's not happening today.

##Unvote

Would love to see this happen:

##Vote: KelsierSC


Why him over prpl?

On March 07 2018 15:13 n00bKing wrote:
Re: What Tubesock liked about Prpl's filter
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 10:45 Tubesock wrote:
I like how he did it too. As mafia I don't think he would have defended me like he did. I think he would have been more firm in either the defense or attack.

So being wishy-washy is a Town trait now? There's nothing to like about Prpl's play, in my opinion. All he's done is claim Cop, be vague and non-committal about whether he thinks you should be pushed, be vague and non-committal about suspicions that AMG's reads feel forced, and talk about a SK role that we know isn't in the game. I never like it when people say something like "I'm interested in seeing where this goes though." Just means they have no plans of making it go somewhere themselves...so I think to myself....then what good are you?

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22284 Posts
March 07 2018 22:15 GMT
#550
That better be a stellar explanation noobking
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 22:16 GMT
#551
On March 08 2018 06:30 Vivax wrote:
Rsoultin, did you take a look at DF in the meantime?

Reading through moosy I noticed he pointed out how you had DF on the radar for his entrance but I don't see much investigation into him afterwards even now that he's been in the spotlight for a while (hopefully I didn't miss anything).

To answer your previous question regarding my reads on you and Moosy:

I ruled you out based on tone and amount of content when I started playing and skimmed a bit. You bossing around the thread and Moosys general involvedness.

Just some heuristic early townreads to get started and reduce the pool of peeps I'm looking into. Those are superficial reads so prone to change as the game goes on.


Fair on the reads, though your posting in general already had me feeling better about you.

I still feel that his posting on his return is solid, probably because he was mirroring a lot (though not all) of my thoughts. This holds true on a re-read. Looking at HF's points, there's only one that I kind of agree with, and that's only in part.

I think I remember you posting about DF, too? So I'm going to review that now that I'm home.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 07 2018 22:16 GMT
#552
On March 08 2018 06:56 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 06:03 AMG wrote:
On March 08 2018 00:08 Vivax wrote:
Follow up by AMG looks better at glance given he sticks his head in many different places and generally gives off a vibe of wanting to do stuff which is a plus for him on D1. Doesn't allow me to exclude him as mafia though.

I don't see what would have required catching up in regards to his initial tubesock read however. It remains a read that is essentially based on Tube being prickly entirely, except that the actual vote happens only when Noobking votes.

His initial impression that Tube is prickly goes from being an observation to an explanation for why it is scummy to a vote for other reasons.

It looks like he reacts to his own posts to keep up a narrative in this case.
I see it like this could have happened:

Townie overreacts to other townie, AMG spots possible fault by TS, calls him prickly but doesn't go with it anywhere. So he needs to make a followup posts telling us that he thinks it's a mafia trait cause the previous post alone in the room would look bad.
Only when Noobking attacks Tubesock AMG decides to vote for him, and he does it by rehashing/agreeing with what Noobking said.

So AMG was kind of looking for reasons to get onto Tubesock purely for the reason he called him prickly already, and since his own reason didn't get enough pull, he only felt like he had the opportunity to do so when Noobking voted first.

This is summed up what's not right with AMG in my opinion.


You completely overlook the reason I take issue with tubesock which I've gone over two or three times now. His pricklyness catches my eye, as did him having a read that conflicted with mine, so I challenged his read. He refused to discuss anything with me at all, like he didn't give a shit about my alignment and had no drive to find out why I had a different opinion to him.


Except all of this happened not at once but you went from prickly->didn't fight your read->disengaged in your argumentation where you placed your vote at the final one after noobking did.

So I can see you as mafia just building on your previous posts reacting to what you wrote to create a tubesock scumread which was consistent with what you already wrote, especially cause of your decision on when to place the vote (when another one already did)

_____

I am actually open to the idea I'm wrong on either of you atm and after reading a bit of tube (since he talks about himself instead of finding mafia most of the time, but could be cause he's been in the defensive).

And cause I'm always hesitant to lynch possible assets D1 I'm checking if there might be other ones worth lynching over df.

Since you are so hung up on tube though I'd expect you to bring forward something more than what you already have and your read on him hasn't evolved much from that point onwards.


I'm a single parent that works. Activity will not be consistent. And when I return to the thread with a point to make, only to see someone has already said it, I see no need to repeat what I'm saying.

And if you can't follow along with my thought process on why I've stepped away from my tubesock read, and, i was being nice about it up until this point, I'll absolutely spell it out for you: he's playing too stupid for me to expect logical and sensible responses and play from and I've gleaned that from our most recent conversation. Therefore I wont be calling him scum for not living up to the expectations that I have of him, I'm going to call him dumb town and move on to discussing other players.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 07 2018 22:17 GMT
#553
##unvote

##Vote: prplhz
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 07 2018 22:19 GMT
#554
Less than an hour and 5 people haven't voted. Superb
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 22:19 GMT
#555
On March 08 2018 07:13 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 07:11 Vivax wrote:
If I'm already talking about Tube and AMG and your response is just "I'm a medic no lyncherino pls" then I don't know how to spark interest into you finding a better lynch other than yourself.


I disagree with you about AMG and I think Tubesock is a decent lynch and the points against him have been hashed out already. I'm not sure what you expect of me?

I think FeFe/prplhz/Tubesock are good lynches. I prefer FeFe or prplhz over Tubesock, but Tubesock is fine.

Don't lecture me about interest when you magically come into the thread as a wagon forms on you and have a filter 1/4 of mine


Yeah that was the one point. I don't think that you ever mentioned your reasons for tubesock, though I was filtering by mobile so take that with a grain of salt.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 07 2018 22:20 GMT
#556
On March 08 2018 07:17 darthfoley wrote:
##unvote

##Vote: prplhz


I don't prefer prp.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22284 Posts
March 07 2018 22:20 GMT
#557
On March 08 2018 07:16 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 06:56 Vivax wrote:
On March 08 2018 06:03 AMG wrote:
On March 08 2018 00:08 Vivax wrote:
Follow up by AMG looks better at glance given he sticks his head in many different places and generally gives off a vibe of wanting to do stuff which is a plus for him on D1. Doesn't allow me to exclude him as mafia though.

I don't see what would have required catching up in regards to his initial tubesock read however. It remains a read that is essentially based on Tube being prickly entirely, except that the actual vote happens only when Noobking votes.

His initial impression that Tube is prickly goes from being an observation to an explanation for why it is scummy to a vote for other reasons.

It looks like he reacts to his own posts to keep up a narrative in this case.
I see it like this could have happened:

Townie overreacts to other townie, AMG spots possible fault by TS, calls him prickly but doesn't go with it anywhere. So he needs to make a followup posts telling us that he thinks it's a mafia trait cause the previous post alone in the room would look bad.
Only when Noobking attacks Tubesock AMG decides to vote for him, and he does it by rehashing/agreeing with what Noobking said.

So AMG was kind of looking for reasons to get onto Tubesock purely for the reason he called him prickly already, and since his own reason didn't get enough pull, he only felt like he had the opportunity to do so when Noobking voted first.

This is summed up what's not right with AMG in my opinion.


You completely overlook the reason I take issue with tubesock which I've gone over two or three times now. His pricklyness catches my eye, as did him having a read that conflicted with mine, so I challenged his read. He refused to discuss anything with me at all, like he didn't give a shit about my alignment and had no drive to find out why I had a different opinion to him.


Except all of this happened not at once but you went from prickly->didn't fight your read->disengaged in your argumentation where you placed your vote at the final one after noobking did.

So I can see you as mafia just building on your previous posts reacting to what you wrote to create a tubesock scumread which was consistent with what you already wrote, especially cause of your decision on when to place the vote (when another one already did)

_____

I am actually open to the idea I'm wrong on either of you atm and after reading a bit of tube (since he talks about himself instead of finding mafia most of the time, but could be cause he's been in the defensive).

And cause I'm always hesitant to lynch possible assets D1 I'm checking if there might be other ones worth lynching over df.

Since you are so hung up on tube though I'd expect you to bring forward something more than what you already have and your read on him hasn't evolved much from that point onwards.


I'm a single parent that works. Activity will not be consistent. And when I return to the thread with a point to make, only to see someone has already said it, I see no need to repeat what I'm saying.

And if you can't follow along with my thought process on why I've stepped away from my tubesock read, and, i was being nice about it up until this point, I'll absolutely spell it out for you: he's playing too stupid for me to expect logical and sensible responses and play from and I've gleaned that from our most recent conversation. Therefore I wont be calling him scum for not living up to the expectations that I have of him, I'm going to call him dumb town and move on to discussing other players.


Sorry if you have it rough with the responsibilities. I'm not confident about your alignment but I feel good about just leaving the topic for now. Not going to push further for your lynch today. Besides we made the respective points of view clear enough I think.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 07 2018 22:20 GMT
#558
On March 08 2018 07:19 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 07:13 darthfoley wrote:
On March 08 2018 07:11 Vivax wrote:
If I'm already talking about Tube and AMG and your response is just "I'm a medic no lyncherino pls" then I don't know how to spark interest into you finding a better lynch other than yourself.


I disagree with you about AMG and I think Tubesock is a decent lynch and the points against him have been hashed out already. I'm not sure what you expect of me?

I think FeFe/prplhz/Tubesock are good lynches. I prefer FeFe or prplhz over Tubesock, but Tubesock is fine.

Don't lecture me about interest when you magically come into the thread as a wagon forms on you and have a filter 1/4 of mine


Yeah that was the one point. I don't think that you ever mentioned your reasons for tubesock, though I was filtering by mobile so take that with a grain of salt.


I can't remember Tubesock actually pushing anyone. He's been on the defensive all game, and I also disagree with his town read on prplhz
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 07 2018 22:23 GMT
#559
I am here catching up rn
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22284 Posts
March 07 2018 22:23 GMT
#560
On March 08 2018 07:20 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 07:19 rsoultin wrote:
On March 08 2018 07:13 darthfoley wrote:
On March 08 2018 07:11 Vivax wrote:
If I'm already talking about Tube and AMG and your response is just "I'm a medic no lyncherino pls" then I don't know how to spark interest into you finding a better lynch other than yourself.


I disagree with you about AMG and I think Tubesock is a decent lynch and the points against him have been hashed out already. I'm not sure what you expect of me?

I think FeFe/prplhz/Tubesock are good lynches. I prefer FeFe or prplhz over Tubesock, but Tubesock is fine.

Don't lecture me about interest when you magically come into the thread as a wagon forms on you and have a filter 1/4 of mine


Yeah that was the one point. I don't think that you ever mentioned your reasons for tubesock, though I was filtering by mobile so take that with a grain of salt.


I can't remember Tubesock actually pushing anyone. He's been on the defensive all game, and I also disagree with his town read on prplhz


That'd be my issue with tube too. Reactive and self-centered filter, but you're also somewhere in that category for me.

I'd feel a lot better about lynching you if HF wasn't trying so hard to keep you on the block as I'm not sure what he is yet.
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