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AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 07 2018 01:53 GMT
#381
You don't feel like mafia.

My vote is in the wrong place.

##Unvote
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 07 2018 01:58 GMT
#382
On March 07 2018 10:53 AMG wrote:
You don't feel like mafia.

My vote is in the wrong place.

##Unvote

What about what Tubesock said makes you think he's not Mafia?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 07 2018 01:59 GMT
#383
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 07 2018 10:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 10:18 Tubesock wrote:
On March 07 2018 05:50 AMG wrote:
On March 06 2018 16:47 Tubesock wrote:
On March 06 2018 16:45 AMG wrote:
Tubesock, I implied you were mafia by your reaction and said someone you thought was scummy was almost certainly town.. you dont think either of those warrants further investigation or a response?


Nope.

I think the idea that only scum get salty is hilarious. You also don't seem to understand why I was "pricky". Do you understand what I didn't like about n00bking?


I'm trying to wrap my head around what you took issue with with n00bking prior to this post.

He says talking strategy is fine early, and he does so, but discussing a d2 mass claim is a discussion better had on day 2, I assume, because there are still things to unfold before day 2, I.e the lynch and the night actions.

I don't see hypocracy or inconsistency in what n00bking is saying.

Since this happened and there's been a pretty big pushback on your attempt to cast shade on him, you're now townreading him because he's too nitpicky with finer details, so he's now town.

Is that an accurate summation of your read progression on n00bking?

And now if noobking is town, where to from here, who is your next prime suspect?


This is what I said:
On March 06 2018 09:15 Tubesock wrote:
Hola

I like the idea of the coordinating medic shot via vote. A lot more information.

I am not sure about the mass claiming bit D2 though. I think it would be better for town to have the medics be unknown for a couple cycles before they claim.


It was more a response to Fecalfeast's idea of mass claiming D2, but it also advises town what I think town should do concerning mass claiming. In fact I wasn't specific because I understand the reality that when things change town players will start thinking it's a good idea/time and then it will present itself. The sentence prior even shows uncertainty about D2 claiming which would indicate I'm open to it if the conditions are right.

So, he then zeros in on my D2 comment and is just "No discussion of D2" and then goes on about the setup and pregame conversation. Like he nitpicked 1 thing, and ignored the rest. I don't think he thought about my post. I thought that was scummy. Like I don't think wanting to just talk about D1 mass claiming is inconsistent. But my post answers that question also, so he wasn't really looking to talk about it. Like he wanted to PUSH the mass claim D1. He even later tries to throw shade on Holyflare for shutting down claim talk. Clearly people are not into claiming D1.

As far as the nitpicky bit goes. In my experience, I'll say something weird and then people jump on my ass for it. Then a mafia sees thread sentiment and nitpicks to "lead" the charge. In this case I think n00b did that first so wasn't following thread sentiment. So, he's acting more like a Rels used to, rather than an opportunistic mafiosa.

Wait so are you saying n00b is mafia or he isn't? It's hard to understand exactly what you're attempting to say about n00b with this comparison to Rels.

Also Tubesock, answer this if you will?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 07 2018 02:00 GMT
#384
While I think n00b has done scummy things, I don't think he's mafia.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 07 2018 02:02 GMT
#385
Hm. Do something productive Tubesock. I want to see AMG's response to my question and will be back in a few to post what I think about this.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 07 2018 02:06 GMT
#386
On March 07 2018 11:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Hm. Do something productive Tubesock. I want to see AMG's response to my question and will be back in a few to post what I think about this.


Why would a mafia Rsoultin try to start a wagon on Damdred? Shouldn't she be doing whatever it is she thinks that Damdred would town her for? I thought I saw you post something about her buttering him up? But that's not how I thought it went. Am I wrong?
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 07 2018 02:12 GMT
#387
On March 07 2018 10:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 10:53 AMG wrote:
You don't feel like mafia.

My vote is in the wrong place.

##Unvote

What about what Tubesock said makes you think he's not Mafia?


Hes not squirming like mafia do. That and hes advocating a 'wait and see' approach on the only other wagon to himself.... which is a person who hasn't even posted yet. From that Ill extrapolate that they're either mafia together, or Tubesock isn't mafia. Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there.

I find his thought process on n00bking strange, but it feels town strange. I feel like hes getting hung up on something irrelevant, and that's something I associate with townies. Scum, on average, on the other hand get hung up on something relevant, but tiny, and then blow it out of proportion.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 07 2018 02:19 GMT
#388
His grand return to the thread after copping heat is to return, declare hes got no scum reads, and hes aware that'll probably kill him. And stick to his guns that n00bking is doing scummy things, but isn't scum.

None of this seems calculated like mafia play at all.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 07 2018 02:35 GMT
#389
On March 07 2018 11:12 AMG wrote:

Hes not squirming like mafia do. That and hes advocating a 'wait and see' approach on the only other wagon to himself.... which is a person who hasn't even posted yet. From that Ill extrapolate that they're either mafia together, or Tubesock isn't mafia. Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there.
.


Does this mean you think Fecalfeast is mafia? (I'm assuming not Rsoultin since you already towned her?) Or are you speaking generally?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 07 2018 02:35 GMT
#390
And you're assuming Vivax is town?
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 07 2018 02:37 GMT
#391
On March 07 2018 10:33 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 10:09 darthfoley wrote:
On March 07 2018 10:04 Holyflare wrote:
On March 07 2018 05:01 n00bKing wrote:
Thanks for those answers, rsoul.

HF's "good chat" post makes me uneasy. Should it not? You mentioned him as townpile after that post, so I'm assuming it didn't bother you. But since the time that he tried to shut down discussion of a D1 mass claim, he didn't really put forth anything else to discuss in its place. He's barely talked about anything but Tubesock. I'm guessing "good chat" means he's satisfied with the direction of the thread/voting at this stage, but that could be good for Town or bad for Town. lol

@Holyflare: No follow-up questions for your vote target? No reactions to anything else that's been said about your vote target in the meantime? No comments on anything else that's going on? (admittedly, not much else is going on...)

@Damdred: Have any strong impressions on HF? (just with regard to his allegiance, not with regard to whether he is/isn't "a medic" for one side or the other)


None at all really.


Who are you scumreading? or town reading?


amg/noob
rsoul

big gap of nothing

damdred
moosy

darthfoley

prplhz
tubesock

bunch of afkers and vivax being one of them means absolutely nothing




So you agree on 3/4 my town reads but view me on the scummier side. interesting
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 07 2018 02:40 GMT
#392
On March 07 2018 11:35 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 11:12 AMG wrote:

Hes not squirming like mafia do. That and hes advocating a 'wait and see' approach on the only other wagon to himself.... which is a person who hasn't even posted yet. From that Ill extrapolate that they're either mafia together, or Tubesock isn't mafia. Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there.
.


Does this mean you think Fecalfeast is mafia? (I'm assuming not Rsoultin since you already towned her?) Or are you speaking generally?


What? This has nothing to do with FeFe. I am talking about you and Vivax.

I am speaking generally.

And I have no idea what Vivax alignment is, which is why i considered from both perspectives. Him being town and mafia and you being town and mafia.

My point is that you are declining to push the counterwagon to yourself, which is the self-preservation play. FeFe and rsoultin are not a factor in my read on you.

Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 07 2018 02:40 GMT
#393
Holyflare, why don't you like prplhz?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 07 2018 02:41 GMT
#394
On March 07 2018 11:37 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 10:33 Holyflare wrote:
On March 07 2018 10:09 darthfoley wrote:
On March 07 2018 10:04 Holyflare wrote:
On March 07 2018 05:01 n00bKing wrote:
Thanks for those answers, rsoul.

HF's "good chat" post makes me uneasy. Should it not? You mentioned him as townpile after that post, so I'm assuming it didn't bother you. But since the time that he tried to shut down discussion of a D1 mass claim, he didn't really put forth anything else to discuss in its place. He's barely talked about anything but Tubesock. I'm guessing "good chat" means he's satisfied with the direction of the thread/voting at this stage, but that could be good for Town or bad for Town. lol

@Holyflare: No follow-up questions for your vote target? No reactions to anything else that's been said about your vote target in the meantime? No comments on anything else that's going on? (admittedly, not much else is going on...)

@Damdred: Have any strong impressions on HF? (just with regard to his allegiance, not with regard to whether he is/isn't "a medic" for one side or the other)


None at all really.


Who are you scumreading? or town reading?


amg/noob
rsoul

big gap of nothing

damdred
moosy

darthfoley

prplhz
tubesock

bunch of afkers and vivax being one of them means absolutely nothing




So you agree on 3/4 my town reads but view me on the scummier side. interesting


I don't think you've done a single thing this game so yes. Don't care if you "share" the same reads 95% of the thread has already rehashed.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 07 2018 02:43 GMT
#395
On March 07 2018 11:40 Tubesock wrote:
Holyflare, why don't you like prplhz?


For the exact opposite reason you town read him. He calls you scummy and then says that probably makes you town. It bypasses any kind of discussion about what the exact points he would be scum reading you are and just waves it all away.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 07 2018 02:46 GMT
#396
Actually df I've reread your filter and I think you're below prplhz instead. Lots of holes and pointlessness imo.
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 07 2018 02:57 GMT
#397
On March 07 2018 11:43 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 11:40 Tubesock wrote:
Holyflare, why don't you like prplhz?


For the exact opposite reason you town read him. He calls you scummy and then says that probably makes you town. It bypasses any kind of discussion about what the exact points he would be scum reading you are and just waves it all away.


Lets discuss.

What do you think of the last page out of Tubesock. Do you still think he is mafia?

Would you be interested in lynching prplhz today over Tubesock?
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 07 2018 02:58 GMT
#398
Alright I'm back.

On March 07 2018 11:12 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 10:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On March 07 2018 10:53 AMG wrote:
You don't feel like mafia.

My vote is in the wrong place.

##Unvote

What about what Tubesock said makes you think he's not Mafia?


Hes not squirming like mafia do. That and hes advocating a 'wait and see' approach on the only other wagon to himself.... which is a person who hasn't even posted yet. From that Ill extrapolate that they're either mafia together, or Tubesock isn't mafia. Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there.

I find his thought process on n00bking strange, but it feels town strange. I feel like hes getting hung up on something irrelevant, and that's something I associate with townies. Scum, on average, on the other hand get hung up on something relevant, but tiny, and then blow it out of proportion.


On March 07 2018 11:19 AMG wrote:
His grand return to the thread after copping heat is to return, declare hes got no scum reads, and hes aware that'll probably kill him. And stick to his guns that n00bking is doing scummy things, but isn't scum.

None of this seems calculated like mafia play at all.

Hmmm, see I actually found his re-entrance to the thread super scummy. His play at the very start of D1 was characterized by his prickly and aggressive behavior. When people started pointing this out he questioned why being prickly is scummy. When more people started piling on his wagon, he comes back to the thread with a complete 180 on how he behaved and more in alignment with the behavior that people want.

Also, something some Mafia do is give out really easy townreads but find it difficult to scum read anyone because they know they're Mafia themselves. It's why I dislike it that he seemingly has a bunch of townreads but literally no scumreads.

I also personally find his wait and see approach on Vivax actually extraordinarily mafia-like too especially from my perspective. I've done the exact same thing where I've said it's better to lynch me than the other wagon. And this feels like the same approach. Combined with the fact that he comes with no scumreads on literally anyone.

Especially since it seems like he's still grasping at straws here and it feels like he's finding it really difficult to find a scumread:

On March 07 2018 11:35 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 11:12 AMG wrote:

Hes not squirming like mafia do. That and hes advocating a 'wait and see' approach on the only other wagon to himself.... which is a person who hasn't even posted yet. From that Ill extrapolate that they're either mafia together, or Tubesock isn't mafia. Mafia are chucking an AFK townie under the bus there.
.


Does this mean you think Fecalfeast is mafia? (I'm assuming not Rsoultin since you already towned her?) Or are you speaking generally?

"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 07 2018 03:00 GMT
#399
yeah, I really don't like Tubesock at all. If he's a townie with prickly and aggressive behavior questioning people questioning his behavior, I see him coming back with the same attitude to prove his innocence. I don't see him with a 180 attitude flip and literally 0 scumreads.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 07 2018 03:02 GMT
#400
mmm where is damdred when you need him though. he's been super absent for most of the game
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
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