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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 06 2018 23:23 GMT
#361
What is the king of wagons
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 06 2018 23:42 GMT
#362
On March 07 2018 08:23 Fecalfeast wrote:
What is the king of wagons

You seem to be jumping on every wagon that people have made with little regard for who makes the train or who the train is on. It's quite worrying if I'm honest but I remember having similar worries about you whenever I've been in the same games as you.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 06 2018 23:47 GMT
#363
It's also been 24 hours and the complete absence of posting from some people and Tubesock's absence is also quite intriguing.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 06 2018 23:53 GMT
#364
Ya maybe it's just Tubesock lol
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 07 2018 00:31 GMT
#365
It seems to easy to just hand wave everyone who's active as town and say the scum aren't posting anymore/at all. And yet when i look at each active poster in isolation, I don't see mafia, so by process of elimination i'm down to about 5-6 players with a total of less than 10 posts between them.

Luckily, we've been given some extra town-side KP to clean up the inactives, otherwise this could be painful and tedious.

AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 07 2018 00:47 GMT
#366
I'm just going to think out loud for a post since everyone i'm interested in conversing with is not present.

If I were a medic, I would 100% be going offensive until 1 or more medics have flipped. The probability of friendly fire when trying to save townreads is too high. We have quite a solid town circle forming and I'm thinking the losses we suffer trying to organise medic saves into that group would far outweigh the potential saves. Additionally all mafia have to do is throw their medic into that mix, which is not even a medic at all, since they have no KP coming their way to defend against, their medic is entirely for sabotaging ours. Once a few of the medics (ideally the scum medic) have started flipping, organizing medics defensively becomes far more viable. I think cashing in our medic saves for a vig shot is too good of an opportunity to pass up, especially with the current game state.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
March 07 2018 01:02 GMT
#367
Day 1 Vote Count

Tubesock (3): Holyflare, n00bking, AMG
Vivax (2): rsoultin, Fecalfeast
Damdred (0): rsoultin (x)

Not Voting (8): chaoser, prplhz, darthfoley, Damdred, KelsierSC, MoosyDoosy, Tubesock, Vivax


Tubesock currently stands as the lynch.

The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 07 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 07 2018 01:04 GMT
#368
On March 07 2018 05:01 n00bKing wrote:
Thanks for those answers, rsoul.

HF's "good chat" post makes me uneasy. Should it not? You mentioned him as townpile after that post, so I'm assuming it didn't bother you. But since the time that he tried to shut down discussion of a D1 mass claim, he didn't really put forth anything else to discuss in its place. He's barely talked about anything but Tubesock. I'm guessing "good chat" means he's satisfied with the direction of the thread/voting at this stage, but that could be good for Town or bad for Town. lol

@Holyflare: No follow-up questions for your vote target? No reactions to anything else that's been said about your vote target in the meantime? No comments on anything else that's going on? (admittedly, not much else is going on...)

@Damdred: Have any strong impressions on HF? (just with regard to his allegiance, not with regard to whether he is/isn't "a medic" for one side or the other)


None at all really.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 07 2018 01:09 GMT
#369
On March 07 2018 10:04 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 05:01 n00bKing wrote:
Thanks for those answers, rsoul.

HF's "good chat" post makes me uneasy. Should it not? You mentioned him as townpile after that post, so I'm assuming it didn't bother you. But since the time that he tried to shut down discussion of a D1 mass claim, he didn't really put forth anything else to discuss in its place. He's barely talked about anything but Tubesock. I'm guessing "good chat" means he's satisfied with the direction of the thread/voting at this stage, but that could be good for Town or bad for Town. lol

@Holyflare: No follow-up questions for your vote target? No reactions to anything else that's been said about your vote target in the meantime? No comments on anything else that's going on? (admittedly, not much else is going on...)

@Damdred: Have any strong impressions on HF? (just with regard to his allegiance, not with regard to whether he is/isn't "a medic" for one side or the other)


None at all really.


Who are you scumreading? or town reading?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 07 2018 01:18 GMT
#370
On March 07 2018 05:50 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2018 16:47 Tubesock wrote:
On March 06 2018 16:45 AMG wrote:
Tubesock, I implied you were mafia by your reaction and said someone you thought was scummy was almost certainly town.. you dont think either of those warrants further investigation or a response?


Nope.

I think the idea that only scum get salty is hilarious. You also don't seem to understand why I was "pricky". Do you understand what I didn't like about n00bking?


I'm trying to wrap my head around what you took issue with with n00bking prior to this post.

He says talking strategy is fine early, and he does so, but discussing a d2 mass claim is a discussion better had on day 2, I assume, because there are still things to unfold before day 2, I.e the lynch and the night actions.

I don't see hypocracy or inconsistency in what n00bking is saying.

Since this happened and there's been a pretty big pushback on your attempt to cast shade on him, you're now townreading him because he's too nitpicky with finer details, so he's now town.

Is that an accurate summation of your read progression on n00bking?

And now if noobking is town, where to from here, who is your next prime suspect?


This is what I said:
On March 06 2018 09:15 Tubesock wrote:
Hola

I like the idea of the coordinating medic shot via vote. A lot more information.

I am not sure about the mass claiming bit D2 though. I think it would be better for town to have the medics be unknown for a couple cycles before they claim.


It was more a response to Fecalfeast's idea of mass claiming D2, but it also advises town what I think town should do concerning mass claiming. In fact I wasn't specific because I understand the reality that when things change town players will start thinking it's a good idea/time and then it will present itself. The sentence prior even shows uncertainty about D2 claiming which would indicate I'm open to it if the conditions are right.

So, he then zeros in on my D2 comment and is just "No discussion of D2" and then goes on about the setup and pregame conversation. Like he nitpicked 1 thing, and ignored the rest. I don't think he thought about my post. I thought that was scummy. Like I don't think wanting to just talk about D1 mass claiming is inconsistent. But my post answers that question also, so he wasn't really looking to talk about it. Like he wanted to PUSH the mass claim D1. He even later tries to throw shade on Holyflare for shutting down claim talk. Clearly people are not into claiming D1.

As far as the nitpicky bit goes. In my experience, I'll say something weird and then people jump on my ass for it. Then a mafia sees thread sentiment and nitpicks to "lead" the charge. In this case I think n00b did that first so wasn't following thread sentiment. So, he's acting more like a Rels used to, rather than an opportunistic mafiosa.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 07 2018 01:22 GMT
#371
I don't have any scum reads yet. eeewww

It'll probably end up killing me, but I think with Vivax we should wait for him to see if he does his 3 posts to remain "active" which would basically guarantee him being mafia (unless they're great posts) or he gets modkilled.

I won't be voting for rsoul, HF, prplz, moose, or Damdred.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 07 2018 01:33 GMT
#372
On March 07 2018 10:09 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 10:04 Holyflare wrote:
On March 07 2018 05:01 n00bKing wrote:
Thanks for those answers, rsoul.

HF's "good chat" post makes me uneasy. Should it not? You mentioned him as townpile after that post, so I'm assuming it didn't bother you. But since the time that he tried to shut down discussion of a D1 mass claim, he didn't really put forth anything else to discuss in its place. He's barely talked about anything but Tubesock. I'm guessing "good chat" means he's satisfied with the direction of the thread/voting at this stage, but that could be good for Town or bad for Town. lol

@Holyflare: No follow-up questions for your vote target? No reactions to anything else that's been said about your vote target in the meantime? No comments on anything else that's going on? (admittedly, not much else is going on...)

@Damdred: Have any strong impressions on HF? (just with regard to his allegiance, not with regard to whether he is/isn't "a medic" for one side or the other)


None at all really.


Who are you scumreading? or town reading?


amg/noob
rsoul

big gap of nothing

damdred
moosy

darthfoley

prplhz
tubesock

bunch of afkers and vivax being one of them means absolutely nothing


MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 07 2018 01:33 GMT
#373
On March 07 2018 10:18 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 05:50 AMG wrote:
On March 06 2018 16:47 Tubesock wrote:
On March 06 2018 16:45 AMG wrote:
Tubesock, I implied you were mafia by your reaction and said someone you thought was scummy was almost certainly town.. you dont think either of those warrants further investigation or a response?


Nope.

I think the idea that only scum get salty is hilarious. You also don't seem to understand why I was "pricky". Do you understand what I didn't like about n00bking?


I'm trying to wrap my head around what you took issue with with n00bking prior to this post.

He says talking strategy is fine early, and he does so, but discussing a d2 mass claim is a discussion better had on day 2, I assume, because there are still things to unfold before day 2, I.e the lynch and the night actions.

I don't see hypocracy or inconsistency in what n00bking is saying.

Since this happened and there's been a pretty big pushback on your attempt to cast shade on him, you're now townreading him because he's too nitpicky with finer details, so he's now town.

Is that an accurate summation of your read progression on n00bking?

And now if noobking is town, where to from here, who is your next prime suspect?


This is what I said:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2018 09:15 Tubesock wrote:
Hola

I like the idea of the coordinating medic shot via vote. A lot more information.

I am not sure about the mass claiming bit D2 though. I think it would be better for town to have the medics be unknown for a couple cycles before they claim.


It was more a response to Fecalfeast's idea of mass claiming D2, but it also advises town what I think town should do concerning mass claiming. In fact I wasn't specific because I understand the reality that when things change town players will start thinking it's a good idea/time and then it will present itself. The sentence prior even shows uncertainty about D2 claiming which would indicate I'm open to it if the conditions are right.

So, he then zeros in on my D2 comment and is just "No discussion of D2" and then goes on about the setup and pregame conversation. Like he nitpicked 1 thing, and ignored the rest. I don't think he thought about my post. I thought that was scummy. Like I don't think wanting to just talk about D1 mass claiming is inconsistent. But my post answers that question also, so he wasn't really looking to talk about it. Like he wanted to PUSH the mass claim D1. He even later tries to throw shade on Holyflare for shutting down claim talk. Clearly people are not into claiming D1.

As far as the nitpicky bit goes. In my experience, I'll say something weird and then people jump on my ass for it. Then a mafia sees thread sentiment and nitpicks to "lead" the charge. In this case I think n00b did that first so wasn't following thread sentiment. So, he's acting more like a Rels used to, rather than an opportunistic mafiosa.

Wait so are you saying n00b is mafia or he isn't? It's hard to understand exactly what you're attempting to say about n00b with this comparison to Rels.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 07 2018 01:33 GMT
#374
On March 07 2018 10:22 Tubesock wrote:
I don't have any scum reads yet. eeewww

It'll probably end up killing me, but I think with Vivax we should wait for him to see if he does his 3 posts to remain "active" which would basically guarantee him being mafia (unless they're great posts) or he gets modkilled.

I won't be voting for rsoul, HF, prplz, moose, or Damdred.


why not me when all I've done is claim medic and effectively try and lynch you and afk?
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
March 07 2018 01:35 GMT
#375
Also do you have anything at all Tube? Arguments, defense, possible list of scum...?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 07 2018 01:40 GMT
#376
On March 07 2018 10:33 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 10:22 Tubesock wrote:
I don't have any scum reads yet. eeewww

It'll probably end up killing me, but I think with Vivax we should wait for him to see if he does his 3 posts to remain "active" which would basically guarantee him being mafia (unless they're great posts) or he gets modkilled.

I won't be voting for rsoul, HF, prplz, moose, or Damdred.


why not me when all I've done is claim medic and effectively try and lynch you and afk?


I want to see how your plan goes.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 07 2018 01:40 GMT
#377
On March 07 2018 10:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also do you have anything at all Tube? Arguments, defense, possible list of scum...?


Did I not just post something that answers all that?
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 07 2018 01:40 GMT
#378
On March 07 2018 10:22 Tubesock wrote:
I don't have any scum reads yet. eeewww

It'll probably end up killing me, but I think with Vivax we should wait for him to see if he does his 3 posts to remain "active" which would basically guarantee him being mafia (unless they're great posts) or he gets modkilled.

I won't be voting for rsoul, HF, prplz, moose, or Damdred.


You're advising a wait and see approach to the only counterwagon to yourself?

Interesting.

What do you like about prplhz filter?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 07 2018 01:44 GMT
#379
On March 07 2018 10:40 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2018 10:22 Tubesock wrote:
I don't have any scum reads yet. eeewww

It'll probably end up killing me, but I think with Vivax we should wait for him to see if he does his 3 posts to remain "active" which would basically guarantee him being mafia (unless they're great posts) or he gets modkilled.

I won't be voting for rsoul, HF, prplz, moose, or Damdred.


You're advising a wait and see approach to the only counterwagon to yourself?

Interesting.

What do you like about prplhz filter?


I like that he lightly defended me.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
March 07 2018 01:45 GMT
#380
I like how he did it too. As mafia I don't think he would have defended me like he did. I think he would have been more firm in either the defense or attack.
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