[M][N] Medic Mafia - Page 22

On March 07 2018 13:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think tubesock is town

On March 07 2018 05:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Metagame. Damdred said this is what he'd expect from town rsoultin so she might be doing it as scum to make him she's town. I might be getting super tinfoily here which is why I'm asking for feedback.

On March 07 2018 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
If anything, rsoultin changes her reads to conform to Damdred's over time. Considering how hard Damdred townread rsoultin I think she's metagaming him to seem townie and working around his reads because she knows he can read her.

On March 07 2018 06:25 rsoultin wrote:
Vivax is prob the best counterwagon to Tubesock. There's a very real possibility that I may change my vote, but as I said...of the afker's, his absence is the most alignment indicative.

##vote: Vivax

On March 07 2018 06:25 rsoultin wrote:
Who are the other scum with me, then?

On March 07 2018 06:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:

meh. I'm holding my vote until Damdred comes back and responds to my thoughts. But I am probably going to vote for Tubesock here. There aren't really any other convincing arguments for me other than him and my own suspicions on rsoultin.

On March 07 2018 07:25 darthfoley wrote:
Like I can see myself having a similar weak scum read on someone who did what I did. At least to stir the pot a bit cuz at the time she made that read, the thread was a "poop on tubesock" fest iirc

On March 07 2018 10:18 Tubesock wrote:


This is what I said:


It was more a response to Fecalfeast's idea of mass claiming D2, but it also advises town what I think town should do concerning mass claiming. In fact I wasn't specific because I understand the reality that when things change town players will start thinking it's a good idea/time and then it will present itself. The sentence prior even shows uncertainty about D2 claiming which would indicate I'm open to it if the conditions are right.

So, he then zeros in on my D2 comment and is just "No discussion of D2" and then goes on about the setup and pregame conversation. Like he nitpicked 1 thing, and ignored the rest. I don't think he thought about my post. I thought that was scummy. Like I don't think wanting to just talk about D1 mass claiming is inconsistent. But my post answers that question also, so he wasn't really looking to talk about it. Like he wanted to PUSH the mass claim D1. He even later tries to throw shade on Holyflare for shutting down claim talk. Clearly people are not into claiming D1.

As far as the nitpicky bit goes. In my experience, I'll say something weird and then people jump on my ass for it. Then a mafia sees thread sentiment and nitpicks to "lead" the charge. In this case I think n00b did that first so wasn't following thread sentiment. So, he's acting more like a Rels used to, rather than an opportunistic mafiosa.

On March 07 2018 10:45 Tubesock wrote:
I like how he did it too. As mafia I don't think he would have defended me like he did. I think he would have been more firm in either the defense or attack.

On March 07 2018 14:58 n00bKing wrote:

Yeah...I really "zeroed in" on your D2 comment....your post was 3 lines long, and one of the lines was "Hola."

Then one of the lines was what I considered to be simple common sense, and didn't really need stating. Sorry for not quoting the part I thought was common sense and saying "Look at this, this is common sense!" So yeah, I focused on 1 thing, and ignored the rest. I focused on the 1 thing I actually thought needed anything said about it. Think that's pretty normal. And I didn't "throw shade" at HF for trying to shut down the claim conversation. I only said that anyone who has something to say about it should still do so, and not let themselves be silenced by him.

How is it that you've come back and made more posts, without responding to the post where I went from just talking with you, to actually voting against you? I've already expressed that I didn't love the fact that the moment you switched from answering each post that came in, to disappearing for 16 hours or whatever it was, was also the moment I went from just having a conversation with you, to actually putting a vote on you. Could that have just been coincidence? Yeah, maybe. But it doesn't look like it, when upon your return to the thread, you STILL never acknowledge that post in any way, shape, or form. Did that part of Page 12 just magically escape your notice? "splain yourself."

On March 07 2018 11:12 AMG wrote:


Hes not squirming like mafia do. That and hes advocating a 'wait and see' approach on the only other wagon to himself.... which is a person who hasn't even posted yet. From that Ill extrapolate that they're either mafia together, or Tubesock isn't mafia

On March 07 2018 15:14 Tubesock wrote:


Lol, I already said why I didn’t interact with AMG at first and even he later said I’m not coherent In any way so clearly it isn’t just me. Maybe at the time I didn’t have the energy because I was doing something else too?

As for 16 hours afk. Hahahaha think of two activities that generally use up 8 hours at a time. My sincere apologies that my gaming time doesn’t align with your desires your highness.

On March 06 2018 18:01 n00bKing wrote:
even if you thought you had "no common ground" with him about what makes players prickly (and even if you thought discussing the disagreement with him wouldn't help you determine whether he actually sees it differently, or is just pretending to) you could have just talked to him about something else instead. Like...you could have talked to him about the thing you were "more interested in." ME! Why not ask him why he has the townread on me? He might share something that changes your mind. Or you might share something that changes his. Having NO desire to discuss me with someone who takes the opposite opinion just makes it look like you already know my allegiance.

On March 07 2018 12:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Add this question too to the list of things Tube seems like he's just throwing out trying to make stick. I'm going to leave to finish my essay I actually have to do by tonight but I want feedback from other people on what they think. If anyone legitimately wants me to explain this read though also, just say so and I will when I get back.

On March 07 2018 15:44 Tubesock wrote:
Uh it was pretty clear you were going to vote me so the timing wasn’t relevant at all.

Tubesock wrote:
I’ll even go a step further, you’re not going to vote anyone else today.

On March 07 2018 15:58 n00bKing wrote:

It wasn't clear to ME that I was going to vote against you, until you made the post that I identified as being the one that actually caused me to place the vote.

lol, guess we'll see, huh?

Meanwhile, you're still not answering the question. Third time: In addition to not wanting to talk to AMG about whether it's scum-indicative for players to be prickly, why did you also not want to talk to him about me, the thing you claimed to be "more interested in" at the time, and a topic where you knew he had a differing opinion? Why would you not want to bounce your thoughts about me off of other players, unless you already knew my allegiance?

On March 07 2018 15:51 n00bKing wrote:
Meanwhile,

Does anyone agree or disagree with rsoul's assessment that the silence from Vivax and Kelsier (and especially Vivax) is more alignment-indicative than it is for chaoser? Does anyone even know chaoser?

I think it's also worth discussing whether any of those players are strong Town assets *when* they are Town. For example, let's say people generally agree that Vivax is more likely than the average player, to no-show a thread while Scum. If it just so happens that he had done it as Town this time, would we be shooting ourselves in the foot in a major way by mislynching him, and losing the services of Town Vivax, cuz maybe he was going to show up later and be a Scum-wrecking machine? Or is it big upside and only small downside? And then same question regarding our other 2 no-shows.