|
27nb is still high on my scum list. I've made my points about her vote on Dis already, and this is still largely why I'm scumming her.
I also want to point out that she is one of only a few players to be reading town on SL.
On May 24 2015 00:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 13:25 sicklucker wrote:Lets look at bats read progresion on me On May 22 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
@tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared.
Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things.
##vote: sicklucker 0 scum read on me 100% presure voteOn May 23 2015 02:56 batsnacks wrote:
SL is null still. I never really had a reason to scum read him I sort of just voted him to vote someone.
I'm looking at sulfur and Scott until they post something that sticks in my memory. When I find time I need to read bunnies filter and sort out some of the stuff I saw when I was skimming. I'm off work in like 3 hours I can only really briefly respond/snark at stuff until then. Still no read on me admits his vote on me means nothingOn May 23 2015 12:20 batsnacks wrote:
Let's lynch SL seriously. Town SL takes being scum read way more personally than he has this game. Scott is a fine vote too and so is BM at this point but I'm really feeling SL if he thinks he can ignore pressure and do nothing. Has not mentioned me since all of a sudden he drops this post which conveniently is similar to thread setimentYa ok bats ok. I think hes a mafia with a made up read here following a few donkeys who cant read my obv town play I actually like this post on BS that SL has made.
And that is her reasoning.
Overall I just don't get the sense that she is trying to solve the game. 27nb is responding to stuff and making a few, extreamly weak, reads and in general is present in the thread. Yet has only applied a bit of pressure to SL early D1, who she now gives this weak townread on.
If 27nb isn't scum she is my top suspect for being potential SK.
|
Then there are our less active newbies, BF and plots.
Plots is actually still a scum lean for me. He did a lot of work on those spreadsheets and all, but was never even able to give us a full set of reads before EoD. Since then he hasn't done much but update us on his progress catching up with reading. His graphics gave him a pass D1, but needs to step it up D2 to convince me he isn't scum.
I was going to mention BF anyways, but Dis makes a point about him here in his votes analysis post that I had missed. There isn't much to read on the guy yet besides a few association reads he's thrown out. Another person who needs to step up their game.
|
I think that within those 4 players we have our scum team and even potential SK. I am pretty sure everyone else is town this game. So if you'd like me to restate PoE style it'd look like this:
SL
27nb
plots
BF
Everyone else is town.
|
On May 25 2015 03:38 disformation wrote:
2) Since nobody else was in the thread at a time (look at the timestamps), there was no way to get a decent wagon starting. And throwing away votes (looking at ticktoc here) is not going to help.
Lol I am making a habit out of this aren't I?
Assuming I'm not night killed I'll answer any questions people have about that tomorrow.
|
One last thought before I dash off to work. Dont have time to quote and stuff so do the reading yourself.
Dis is confirmed town.
Only reason I had left to suspect him was a possible pocket play. He'd been towning me pretty hard. His last few posts show that he is willing to cast me in a bad light and push against me a little. Between that and his pushes on Sul he is not afraid to speak his mind and go against the grain. He is asking and pushing his questions time and again.
|
100% mafia NK, they would be retarted to not make a kill tonight after scott was lynched.
Also yea.
## Vote: Sicklucker
|
Guys SL and plots are probably mafia team. I'm still at work so cant back this up with quotes, but look at how SL and plots defend each other D1, thenthis whole interaction between them today is so wierd. It is the first time they talk to each other all game. Really read.
BM if you think I could be scum please reread my posts regarding those two and tell me if I'm wrong.
|
I'm finally off of work and will be around the next few hours.
On May 25 2015 10:31 Bill Murray wrote:
i am kind of indifferent on who gets voted today including myself
who started the scott wagon?
You've already been inactive like half this game. If you truly feel this way, then just fucking replace.
You made some good posts N1 but I haven't seen the same quality of posts from you today. Then you say your not even going to bother reading the stuff you missed and are just going to wing it from now on.
Shit or get off the pot dude.
|
Ok first things first. Going to reiterate the case on SL.
Though I'm not going to do it alone...
I have our dearly departed VT Rels to help me out.
On May 24 2015 17:53 Rels wrote:Hello, this is a message for the potentiel vig in this game. I want you to consider a sicklucker shot tonight. Please read this post and think about it. First please read Breshke post here or in spoiler: + Show Spoiler +On May 24 2015 14:07 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 13:14 sicklucker wrote:
one of bunnies or disinfo are scum
probably disinfo Has a shitty push on disinfo doesn't explain anything or put any effort into getting him lynched just faking suspicion to seem town. Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 20:16 sicklucker wrote:
##unvote ##vote scott
Ya whatever. On a quick reread disinfo filter is not really bad. No way we cant kill scott here. I think a policy lynch is fine I have no high percentage flips in my mind Backs of his shitty read again with no reasoning when wagon seems to be going against his partner. Starts bussing to get towncred. Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 05:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ok i just read rels filter. I think he flips scum a bit more then scott I wouldnt mind lynching him. Hard to explian call it a feelin Tries to push rels AGAIN with no reasoning. Does not put any effort into getting rels lynched instead of scott even though scott is just a policy lynch for him and rels he genuinely thinks is scum. SL is not trying to work out the game he mainly just posts to post. Probably started bussing his partner then tried to see if he could start a different wagon. When noone started biting he just drops it. We are lynching SL tomorrow. If that doesn't convince you I will take what I said about him here and add to it. First reasonIn a few of his posts he either says he's town or gives argument to why someone should read him town. Apparently SL is a good player, so that could be straight up subtile manipulation. It is the tactics from commercials; one can only see something so many times before one starts thinking it's true, not knowing where the thought came by. I'm talking about these posts: + Show Spoiler +On May 22 2015 07:22 sicklucker wrote:
disinfo you gonna correctly read me town again? On May 22 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 08:48 Breshke wrote:
It also says the all Qts were active in the like initial start of game post.
I'm not going to read you for a dumbbell SL I'm going to read you on giving nonsensical town reads and not thinking critically about the game well you should because thats how you read me town On May 22 2015 09:49 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 09:30 Breshke wrote:On May 22 2015 09:22 sicklucker wrote:On May 22 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote:On May 22 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
@tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared.
Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things.
##vote: sicklucker I really like this post and not even because it's telling people to vote SL the thought process is spot on. its really nothing special. And im already playing and trying so its pretty pointless Trying? Saying your town for dumbtelling when its completly within your ability to do it as scum and your only read being that im scum for not calling you town for said dumbtell. I don't call that trying. I get it is early but do you have opinions on anyone? What do you think of disinfo now that the QT thing has been corrected? town points for not realizing their was a scum qt up for 24 hours like any town should On May 22 2015 11:22 sicklucker wrote:
oh I totally took that post out of context hes asking me a qeustion pretty poor writinng . Oh well easy to read me town off that On May 22 2015 11:37 sicklucker wrote:
im so town it hurts On May 24 2015 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
Confirmed not veg dont shoot me mafia. Out for the night in a few On May 24 2015 15:42 sicklucker wrote:
infact I was the hammer of the mafia and batsnackss followed me. I the town hero come at me Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 08:33 Tictock wrote:
@Breshke
Humm you have a point. He did post an handful of stuff pretty fast and then bounce. Seems to be have just made a weak townread and then the weak towny post about not confusing us newbies.
Last game when he was town he never gave a shit about confusing us newbies. Now he's making this post defending newbies and town reading Dis, one of the newbies who was also in the last game with us. This does seem like he's scum motivated. Straigth up this. I read student IX game, and SL was town and didn't give a shit about newbies. Third reasonHe says that BM is a lynch bait, but says this: Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 13:27 sicklucker wrote:
bill murray is lynch bait.
definition - a guy who always looks scummy and gets lynched
not saying dont lynch him but keep that in mind That could be read as "lynch him if you want, when he flips green i'm going to be right". Seems to me like he almost want BM to be lynched without him on the train. Forth reasonUntil late in the last day he didn't vote scott and tried to push other people with no arguments. Really no arguments, just "I'm suspicious of XXX". Even after he voted scott, he still tried to push subtily other people without voting for them. I will list the posts where he does that. I will not post what he said on batsnacks because he actually made a case on him for once. + Show Spoiler +On May 23 2015 11:50 sicklucker wrote:
i think disinfo could be scum On May 23 2015 13:14 sicklucker wrote:
one of bunnies or disinfo are scum
probably disinfo On May 23 2015 13:16 sicklucker wrote:
bats disinfo or bunnies + one of bm or the new guys I havent bother to read at all outside of sulp
Can we just vote bats your townread on him makes no sense breske On May 24 2015 05:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ok i just read rels filter. I think he flips scum a bit more then scott I wouldnt mind lynching him. Hard to explian call it a feelin Lying. No I wasn't. Batsnacks then scott was your lynch. Aaaaaand that's it. sicklucker don't add anything useful, except one post: the one on batsnacks which amazingly I liked. Plus, apparently he plays like that every game, so no one can read him for sure. He really put chaos in the thread with how he posted: for example his defense post just above mine is only a gif. What do you do with people hard to read, scummy, and that does things that cause chaos ? That's right. You vigi'd them. Even if he turns out to be town, that will be less confusion on the thread. So vig, if you even exist in this setup and have not made your mind about shooting, shoot SL.
On May 24 2015 17:58 Rels wrote:Two others point on SL: Sixth reasonShow nested quote +On May 24 2015 15:43 sicklucker wrote:
im vulnerable tictock have any questions for me? Then TT post some questions, and SL doesn't answer. Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 15:45 Tictock wrote:
Already asked dude, though I'd also like to know your thoughts on 27nb and BM.
Off to play games, bbl. Seventh reasonShow nested quote +On May 24 2015 15:34 sicklucker wrote:On May 24 2015 08:11 Rels wrote:On May 24 2015 08:03 disformation wrote:
Well. 1/3 mafia down. Do we have confirmation it is 3 mafia ? I mean, that's what I assume too, but is it written anywhere ? yes its going to always be 3 mafia in 13 player format but if theirs a sk then 2? im not getting many mafia reads so thats possible. Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 15:47 Breshke wrote:On May 24 2015 15:34 sicklucker wrote:On May 24 2015 08:11 Rels wrote:On May 24 2015 08:03 disformation wrote:
Well. 1/3 mafia down. Do we have confirmation it is 3 mafia ? I mean, that's what I assume too, but is it written anywhere ? yes its going to always be 3 mafia in 13 player format but if theirs a sk then 2? im not getting many mafia reads so thats possible. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafiaYou were in this game SL and i kno you remember it because its one of the ones you love to mention so much because its the first one i got vig shot in. It had 3 mafia and an SK in a 13 player setup.
I'd also pointed out before EoN...
On May 25 2015 03:22 Tictock wrote:Last point about SL, in fact I'd like to make this point 8 on Rel's list. He posts this, telling a potential Vig to claim so we can discuss his shot. Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
If your a town veg and dont know who to shoot you can just hardclaim now and discuss it without a roleblocker.
Confirmed not veg dont shoot me mafia. Out for the night in a few Then never makes any suggestions about who to shoot. Between that and this post: Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 15:34 sicklucker wrote:On May 24 2015 08:11 Rels wrote:On May 24 2015 08:03 disformation wrote:
Well. 1/3 mafia down. Do we have confirmation it is 3 mafia ? I mean, that's what I assume too, but is it written anywhere ? yes its going to always be 3 mafia in 13 player format but if theirs a sk then 2? im not getting many mafia reads so thats possible. SL is pretty much for sure scum based on all this. I don't own a hat, but I will go out and buy one to eat if he flips green. So, to me the real discussion now is... who Dies after SL?
Just in case that's STILL not enough for you. His posts so far D2 are just filled with lies and misinformation.
This post was directed at Dis (proof)
On May 25 2015 08:04 sicklucker wrote:
I said I was considering voting you did I ever tho? no because before I voted you I read your filter and decided you were not a great vote and then I lynched scum.
Oh really?
On May 23 2015 13:14 sicklucker wrote:
one of bunnies or disinfo are scum
probably disinfo
This was back when SL thought bolding peoples names was voting for them. Bre had to remind him this is not 2+2.
On May 24 2015 06:09 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 06:06 Tictock wrote:
Also SL, you seriously forgot how to format votes here?
Like we played in the same game a week ago and I know your not new to these forums/games... yes I did. I mentioned I played like 100 1 hour mafia games on another site. Alot of your questions are so pointless so maybe thats why I ignore you sometimes and rub you the wrong way
I'd also like to point to one last thing. SL is quick to bring this up when it's used for his own defense...
On May 25 2015 08:41 sicklucker wrote:
Anyone still think im mafia. You have to find a possible partner for me
I was one of the first to give townreads on sulp/ plot (everyone copied my townread on those two) and one of the first on tictock since people forget the reads I have made
Yet clearly forgets that when posting reads and pushing BS.
On May 25 2015 09:32 sicklucker wrote:
1) scott31337 - I Hammered him he was mafia!
ticktock - annoying town dont think he would try to piss me off like this as mafia
5) boxerfred - no Idea I tend to ignore newer players
6) disformation- He was the counter wagon to a mafia so hes safe for today. I really dont read him well I would have to reread his last game. Not voting today
7) Barakos - green checked
8) Sulfurus - I had the same townread on him from his first post as 24/7 bunnies did . I know I was a little weird with that post timing but it was just me thinking out loud in thread. since i tr him i mostly ignored him which is probably not great but its what ive done
9) 27ninjabunnies - Was at first suspicious but leaned slightly town because I noticed we had same reads on people like sluf
10) Bill Murray - him getting soft pushed by a 3 post confirmed mafia is probably a great reason to keep him around
11) Breshke - been tring him but Think he has some mafia equity. Not gonna reread him now because I cant get him lynched anyway
13) batsnacks - Hes town when her pushes people. Here hes not pushing anyone he even backtracks on me Think hes scum
|
Now for my case against plots.
Plots has made 2 reads posts, he mentions SL both times.
His first read:
On May 23 2015 11:20 plotspot wrote:
1. sicklucker (SL): from the graphics I see he has a very scheduley style. Drops in, reads everything, make posts and replies. He has conversed mostly with Breshke. At around 4 hours into the game he seemed to have an hour where he dominates the thread with conversation. I lean towards SL as town-null.
And his latest read:
On May 25 2015 08:29 plotspot wrote:
TOWN READ:
Sicklucker: I admit I might be biased here, from his early posts on D1 4 hours into the game. I had the feeling he really thought about the game and was wondering how to progress it. From then on it was just his natural style, dropping in, posting in streaks, discussing stuff with people online and then vanishing again. I felt he was genuine, it was his style. Ok starting from post 357 (on my sheet) he starts to randomly scum leaning people without providing long-winded reasons. I guess he has me sold when he scumleaned Rels, who I admitted I thought was scum for reasons I posted. So yeah to D1 I think he is town.
He highly stresses SL's play in the first 4 hours of the game as showing he really thought about the game and was wondering how to progress it. Just for Fun I'm leaving all the posts SL makes in the first 5 hours of the game. Do you agree with plots read? + Show Spoiler +
Plots also says he's sold by SL scumleaning Rels. For refference lets look at where SL does that, On May 24 2015 05:35 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 20:36 Rels wrote:
Yo a quick post and I'll be gone until the deadline. Hope I can be around just before but no guarantee.
First scott still haven't showed up and answered the questions ... questions he asked for in his last post may I remind you. So I'm happy to see him lynch atm.
Second I don't like this wagon on disformation at all. The only one with arguments is Barakos so I'm not suspicious of him, but the other two I am (27nb and plotspot). I don't like plotspot voting on an analysis made on the first hours of the game.
Talking about plotspot. Woaw that's a lot of work. But I agree with ticktock's thoughts on him in his list post. Don't have a lot of time so you will have to find it yourself. To summarize what I liked about his argument:
What plotspot did takes a lot of work. But he doesn't push any agenda and it's pretty non alignment indicative. If all a mafia has to do to look town is to make pretty graphics that takes 6 hours to make, we wouldn't catch any. So I agree to not lynch him today but he's not town forever for me.
Last about SL. Again (= I don't like that he says "plotspot is town forever maybe" and then he says "what you did doesn't bring a lot to the table". I don't like how he responded to batsnacks' pressure.
Sorry about the lack of quotes I have to go. My list lynch is:
Scott
BM
SL
See you tonight, hopefully before EOD! Have a good day (= ya scum would be
On May 24 2015 05:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ok i just read rels filter. I think he flips scum a bit more then scott I wouldnt mind lynching him. Hard to explian call it a feelin
Now we have plots own reads on Rels. I think it's worth noting he never did give a read on Rel until AFTER he flipped green.
On May 25 2015 07:10 plotspot wrote:
How do you know Rels wasn't Vig shot? I was about to make a case on scumreading him hard for the following points I prepared:
Rels: referring too much to others opinion, reading thread very carefully, the way RELS sets up lynch is also very comfortable (like lynch inactives), giving orders to others, thanks my post but posts no further thoughts, in comparison to Disinformation who displays overall anxiety in his reads and thoughts, Rels looks like he can handle any sudden change, there is nothing clouding his mind, others apparently have to do more than Rels,
you bet if I was Vig I would have shot her.
Quite an interesting read and an interesting timing on it as well. I've bolded a few of his points he mentions as to why he scums Rel. Do these points sound like anybody else we know?
I'm also having a hard time understanding why a townie (a newbie btw) would post this after a green flip. Rels is not going "oh shit we just lost an active town", rather he's saying "yea I woulda shot this dude too, thought he was scum". I also can't help but notice he posts this an hour before he makes his read on SL, like he's making sure he has that statement out there before using it to support a read.
His weak town reads on SL are also the start of my association case so keep them in mind.
I have more to come, but that feels like enough for one post.
|
On May 25 2015 14:42 sicklucker wrote:
no veg came forward (theres not one) so of course im not gonna waste my time discussing who to kill.
Keep feeding me stuff to repost with proper emphasis SL.
|
EBWOP. Woops forgot to add in the posts SL made in the first 5 hours of the game. They are in THIS spoiler. Sorry.
Careful! It's a big one...
+ Show Spoiler +On May 22 2015 07:00 sicklucker wrote:
1st On May 22 2015 06:18 sicklucker wrote: On May 22 2015 07:07 sicklucker wrote:
like wth is the theme of this game who are these cute lil anime girls and how are they not creepy disinfo you gonna correctly read me town again? On May 22 2015 07:24 sicklucker wrote:
Im giving disinfo my classic cheap town read.
Reasons hes in the thread asap and not basking in the wonders of seeing a scum qt for the first time. On May 22 2015 07:33 sicklucker wrote:
im glad joke votes are stilll a thing On May 22 2015 07:33 sicklucker wrote:
(but lets not confuse the first timers) On May 22 2015 08:36 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 07:45 Breshke wrote:On May 22 2015 07:24 sicklucker wrote:
Im giving disinfo my classic cheap town read.
Reasons hes in the thread asap and not basking in the wonders of seeing a scum qt for the first time. he would have had 24 to get over the wonders of a scum qt though. Also Hi ahhhh maybe your right. I dumbtelled! On May 22 2015 08:37 sicklucker wrote:what? you say i dumbtelled then you vote me? what? On May 22 2015 08:38 sicklucker wrote:
Breske realizes scum qt was given out 24 hours ago. Would he be this blatantly obv as scum? bunnies are you the veg because you might need to shoot him again On May 22 2015 09:20 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 08:46 Tictock wrote:
SL what do you think of BM's vote on bunnies then?
He is serious you know... no hes a troll On May 22 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 08:48 Breshke wrote:
It also says the all Qts were active in the like initial start of game post.
I'm not going to read you for a dumbbell SL I'm going to read you on giving nonsensical town reads and not thinking critically about the game well you should because thats how you read me town On May 22 2015 09:22 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote:On May 22 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
@tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared.
Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things.
##vote: sicklucker I really like this post and not even because it's telling people to vote SL the thought process is spot on. its really nothing special. And im already playing and trying so its pretty pointless On May 22 2015 09:49 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 09:30 Breshke wrote:On May 22 2015 09:22 sicklucker wrote:On May 22 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote:On May 22 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
@tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared.
Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things.
##vote: sicklucker I really like this post and not even because it's telling people to vote SL the thought process is spot on. its really nothing special. And im already playing and trying so its pretty pointless Trying? Saying your town for dumbtelling when its completly within your ability to do it as scum and your only read being that im scum for not calling you town for said dumbtell. I don't call that trying. I get it is early but do you have opinions on anyone? What do you think of disinfo now that the QT thing has been corrected? town points for not realizing their was a scum qt up for 24 hours like any town should On May 22 2015 11:08 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 10:25 Bill Murray wrote:
Disinformation the game so far has been people reacting to a post batsnacks has , premade,
Sicklucker is someone I want to see more from
The scum qt thing I agree with because I didn't realize it would have been open either considering town couldn't talk ...... then why are you voting me? explain On May 22 2015 11:09 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 10:25 Breshke wrote:On May 22 2015 09:49 sicklucker wrote:On May 22 2015 09:30 Breshke wrote:On May 22 2015 09:22 sicklucker wrote:On May 22 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote:On May 22 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
@tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared.
Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things.
##vote: sicklucker I really like this post and not even because it's telling people to vote SL the thought process is spot on. its really nothing special. And im already playing and trying so its pretty pointless Trying? Saying your town for dumbtelling when its completly within your ability to do it as scum and your only read being that im scum for not calling you town for said dumbtell. I don't call that trying. I get it is early but do you have opinions on anyone? What do you think of disinfo now that the QT thing has been corrected? town points for not realizing their was a scum qt up for 24 hours like any town should Scum points for still not saying anything useful and continuing to say you are town because of a dumbtell since when do you even have high standards from me? On May 22 2015 11:10 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 10:33 Tictock wrote:On May 22 2015 10:24 Sulfurus wrote:
@sicklucker is it not normal for the mafia QT to be open during pregame b/c if it is you shouldn't have made that dumbtell
also ##Vote: Breshke Welcome to the thread! Wth is this vote? @BM I'm just trying to get something a little more solid from ya since there is a bit of stuff to look over now. I feel you've satisfied that for now. ## Unvote the best vote in the thread imo. Was it a pocket attempt maybe? but hes new so I doubt it breske looks pretty bad so im not surprised On May 22 2015 11:11 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 10:37 Breshke wrote:This is from the Prologue post Now entering silent pregame phase. No posting anything except popcorn in the thread, please.
Role PMs will be going out soon. Scum, mason and coaching QTs, where applicable, are open for business.
A gentle reminder: do not mention coaching in the thread. do you honestly think I ever read the op? like you know I dont comeon I dumbtell everygame and its always legit but you never accept it the next time it happen On May 22 2015 11:20 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 10:24 Sulfurus wrote:
@sicklucker is it not normal for the mafia QT to be open during pregame b/c if it is you shouldn't have made that dumbtell
also ##Vote: Breshke actually I forgot their was coaches. It looks coached This was probably a pocket attempt. No one ever agrees with me unless they have a motive. Also I think breskes town because if his mafia game is to attack me of all people in a newbie game with really weak reasons I will berate him post game so hes probably town. Sulfurus Sulfurus I got a n0 red check no you what say you? On May 22 2015 11:22 sicklucker wrote:
oh I totally took that post out of context hes asking me a qeustion pretty poor writinng . Oh well easy to read me town off that
|
SL you are either
A) Scum
B) Town that cares more about defending themselves at all costs (including lie and spread disinformation) than finding scum
B is not ideal, but I'd be ok with it. Thankfully that's not a worry since you are scum.
|
On May 25 2015 15:22 sicklucker wrote:
Like why are you listing my posts whats the point? I already have a filter your just spamming the thread and being anti town
If you bothered to read you'd know. You wont, since you don't care what town thinks this game. Unless they are targeting you of course.
|
Back to my case on Plots.
I quoted his read on Rels before, and pointed out how his reasons for scumming Rels also applied to SL. Course since SL is his scum partner he can't see that.
On May 25 2015 07:10 plotspot wrote:
How do you know Rels wasn't Vig shot? I was about to make a case on scumreading him hard for the following points I prepared:
Rels: referring too much to others opinion, reading thread very carefully, the way RELS sets up lynch is also very comfortable (like lynch inactives), giving orders to others, thanks my post but posts no further thoughts, in comparison to Disinformation who displays overall anxiety in his reads and thoughts, Rels looks like he can handle any sudden change, there is nothing clouding his mind, others apparently have to do more than Rels,
you bet if I was Vig I would have shot her.
This time I want to emphasis a different part. Plots mentions Dis here... and is using him as an example of town behavior.
But wait... Didn't plots Vote to lynch Dis day 1? Now Dis is an example of town behavior? Humm...
+ Show Spoiler +On May 24 2015 06:49 cakepie wrote:～ Vote Count ～ scott31337 (6) : Rels, batsnacks (X), Tictock (X), Breshke, sicklucker, batsnacks, boxerfred, disformationdisformation (3) : Barakos, Breshke (X), 27ninjabunnies, plotspotplotspot (1) : Bill Murray, Tictock (X)27ninjabunnies (1) : Bill Murray (X), Tictockbatsnacks (1) : sicklucker (X), SulfurusBill Murray (0) : Tictock (X), Sulfurus (X), Rels (X), boxerfred (X)boxerfred (0) : Rels (X)Breshke (0) : Sulfurus (X)sicklucker (0) : Breshke (X), batsnacks (X), Bill Murray (X), batsnacks (X)Sulfurus (0) : disformation (X) Not voting (1) : scott31337 Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched!
The cycle will end at Saturday, May 23 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), only 10 minutes from this post!!!
remain as you are reading this.
Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in this thread.
If you see any vote out of place, holler at us and we will look into it.
Interesting, I guess Dis went from most likely scum to epitomizing town behavior in plots eyes.
Ok I promised some association stuff. Don't forget I already talked about Plots weak town reads on SL. Guess who else made a weak townread on SL? Hint:
+ Show Spoiler +On May 22 2015 11:44 scott31337 wrote:Dinner was good and now time to get to work... I'm unsure what to think of BM's early vote, maybe just to get some discussion started? He unvoted though. Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 11:20 sicklucker wrote:On May 22 2015 10:24 Sulfurus wrote:
@sicklucker is it not normal for the mafia QT to be open during pregame b/c if it is you shouldn't have made that dumbtell
also ##Vote: Breshke actually I forgot their was coaches. It looks coached This was probably a pocket attempt. No one ever agrees with me unless they have a motive. Also I think breskes town because if his mafia game is to attack me of all people in a newbie game with really weak reasons I will berate him post game so hes probably town. Sulfurus Sulfurus I got a n0 red check no you what say you? SL loves to fakeclaim as town. +1
SL has also been rather protective of plots since he(plots) started posting.
On May 22 2015 11:55 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 11:50 Tictock wrote:On May 22 2015 11:49 plotspot wrote:
oh lawl game has started, but I have to go to sleep now, see you tomorrow
*celebrate good times come on* This is just asking for Plynch, no? nope...
On May 22 2015 12:30 sicklucker wrote:
Plots one post was so null it hurts
On May 22 2015 12:57 sicklucker wrote:
plots post seemed legit. he forgot the game started as he was about ot go to bed. If your mafia you probably dont do that because you look bad. If your town you dont give a shit and your tired
On May 23 2015 10:46 sicklucker wrote:
no one is allowed to vote plots today maybe ever
On May 23 2015 10:52 sicklucker wrote:
plots never mafia here. like ill kill you if you try to kill him. It takes a very special kind of person to do this as mafia and hes not proven as one of them.
I acualy see what hes trying to do with the chart. looking for who ignores who. But now that its out in the open mafia will spam their team mates
That seems like quite a bit of defending from SL...
Then we get to D2 when they actually interact a little. Bre pointed this out earlier but I'll repost it, On May 25 2015 08:32 sicklucker wrote:
Lets say im mafia who here can even be my partner?
2) Tictock like never my partner he has too many petty arguments againt me and votes me
4) plotspot Pushing me today
5) boxerfred acual this one makes some sense good thing im not scum
6) disformation hes pushing/voting me
7) Barakos would I check my team mate? Also probably pushing me im not sure
8) Sulfurus Who cares hes town
9) 27ninjabunnies Dont think we would be that obv
10) Bill Murray Im his only push apparently. I think hes the vote today
11) Breshke woulda rage quit if he was my partner
13) batsnacks pretty sure hes trying to lynch me. I voted him he voted me
The bolded part NEVER HAPPENED. Course SL is willing to just lie about that and he certaintly will never respond to and questions about it, rather plots does it for him.
On May 25 2015 09:13 plotspot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2015 09:07 Breshke wrote:On May 25 2015 08:32 sicklucker wrote:
Lets say im mafia who here can even be my partner?
2) Tictock like never my partner he has too many petty arguments againt me and votes me
4) plotspot Pushing me today
5) boxerfred acual this one makes some sense good thing im not scum
6) disformation hes pushing/voting me
7) Barakos would I check my team mate? Also probably pushing me im not sure
8) Sulfurus Who cares hes town
9) 27ninjabunnies Dont think we would be that obv
10) Bill Murray Im his only push apparently. I think hes the vote today
11) Breshke woulda rage quit if he was my partner
13) batsnacks pretty sure hes trying to lynch me. I voted him he voted me
Look at the bolded plot. He thinks you are pushing him today. This is what I mean he doesn't read anything Previously I said I thought he was town for D1, but I also said that I will look into his actions N1. I think it's fair that he thinks I will push him D2 about his actions on N1. He thinks I cannot be his partner and when RIGHT NOW I'm in a state of considering looking into him N1. Just a minor thing Breshke, but I do think he read everything.
Humm, even if plots thinks SL is town, why is he defending SL here? Shouldn't town!plots go "Hey wait, why is he saying that I'm pushing him when I just townread him" rather than "oh of course my buddy SL was thinking I was going to do this kus of stuff I said earlier" ?
Plus there's this weird all too friendly/joking attitude between them starting here.
It... feels forced. Like they realized they needed to interact since they've never really poked each other. Doing so in such a joking manner is liable to get overlooked, but it REALLY stuck out to me. I mean plots has never been so active in this game before that page of posts so why is he suddenly so comfortable interacting with SL? Sure they are townreading each other, but this is still way too casual imo.
Last point. Look at plots last reads post one last time...
On May 25 2015 08:29 plotspot wrote:
TOWN READ:
Sicklucker: I admit I might be biased here, from his early posts on D1 4 hours into the game. I had the feeling he really thought about the game and was wondering how to progress it. From then on it was just his natural style, dropping in, posting in streaks, discussing stuff with people online and then vanishing again. I felt he was genuine, it was his style. Ok starting from post 357 (on my sheet) he starts to randomly scum leaning people without providing long-winded reasons. I guess he has me sold when he scumleaned Rels, who I admitted I thought was scum for reasons I posted. So yeah to D1 I think he is town.
Disformation: I originally scummed him for his first 3 hours, but as I went on reading more of him, I felt he had this sort of “I’m not sure about this or that”. He is one of the most active, but combine it anxiety for search and a slight bit of uncertainty lingering in his posts, I can only see him as town. Right now I am aware that he sort of has gotten into a battle with Boxerfred, so I will look into this more deeper.
Bill Murray: I believe this guy. He just doesn’t give a crap, yeah he might not be a helpful town (though you never know, he might have a reason to stay more low-key), but mafia? I’ll consider if other options have run out.
Tictock: oh yeah Tictock. I totally believe he is town. He is too active, too anxious. I feel he is almost to impatient to get results and reads in. In my opinion he would help town even more if he paced down a little bit. I believe mafia can use his wind to sailstab other townies if he isn’t careful. Just my opinion. But there, town. I’ve overcome his strangeness somewhat and believe it to be wrong chemistry if we misread eachother.
Breshke: Do I need to elaborate on this case? He has a sharp mind and is noticing and questioning things I can only say in retrospect: yeah good point. If Breshke is mafia, we are all dead.
Boxerfred: Is town because his stream-of-consiousness way of posting. I cannot imagine mafia being able to simulate this. He thinks:”hmm how can I solve this, oh right there was this thing I didn’t consider *posts*,… ah wait this thing too *post*. Beside that he had the slip about the coaching thread. I cannot imagine you would plan this as mafia. No way. The way I guess he is in some sort of heat with Disinformation is due to they both being uncertain and in a way naturally biased on how to perceive certain things. But I will look into N1 soon.
Regarding 27ninjabunnies, Sulfurus, Batsnacks and Barakos, while I was able to “deeply” the others these were the ones I couldn’t confidently read. This is where I need to filter-read them. If you were to pin me down now, I’d say BS and BA slight town read. SU and 27 slight scum. But let’s see.
Notice anything missing? Thats right, scum reads. He says Sul and 27nb are "slight scum" but that's it. Then the rest of his posts since are stuff with SL and then nothing... just another townread on me and responds to BS about his charts. This is another person who is very clearly not trying to find scum, in fact he spent more time explaining why he was GOING to scum read a confirmed town than he's spent trying to find scum today.
|
Ok, I'm done. Someone else's turn to try and solve this game now. I'm way over my wall of text limit for the day.
|
On May 25 2015 15:22 sicklucker wrote:
Like why are you listing my posts whats the point? I already have a filter your just spamming the thread and being anti town
If people would FING READ THE THREAD then I wouldn't need to do this stuff. But there's Someone who Likes to only read stuff when they are around. Oh and also BM does this too.
I agree it's stupid, especially when this is posted in the OP of every Mafia game on this site.
The game is typically very active, so the thread may grow large quickly. However, it is essential to read the thread to play the game. If you do not have the time or patience to read the whole thread, do not play.
|
BF is definitely town from his push EoN on Dis. I actually like the exchange between the two that happens.
On May 25 2015 04:39 boxerfred wrote:
You start tryharding on me. I couldn't say too much on your argumentation before (when Rels started to call out my "I'm a newb" posts) because I saw myself in a bad light and thus tried to do better, which worked - you started to warm up on me. If you still lean me towards scum, I have to assume that you're actively trying to get me lynched, making you SK or scum. So far, I've been really defending myself in a passive way but by now I feel like you're way too aggressive towards other persons, while you keep defending yourself with lots of smileys, trying to make people think positive about you. You accept arguments from others with smiley faces too, acting like you're a gentleman who, even in disagreement, acknowledges the effort/quality/whatever in his opponent's post. You're not a newbie and thus far, you managed to not get yourself into the line of fire very well.
@BF
I totally get where you are coming from on this, and it's not a bad read. However if this is still an important point to you I'd suggest you breifly skim Dis's filter in the last newbie game here.
He uses the simlies AND gets scum read for it in that game as well. However he was Town Doc that game. The smiles are simply a part of his writing style are are completely NAI (Not Alignment Indicative).
|
On May 25 2015 16:34 sicklucker wrote:
she ninjaed that read on sulp is what got me. I mean I dont think my read on her matters im going to have to vote her for survival it looks like and i think shes a good vote and not in my poe list
Whats you PoE list SL? Last I saw you were scumming exactly 1.5 people.
|
On May 25 2015 16:44 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2015 16:41 Tictock wrote:On May 25 2015 16:34 sicklucker wrote:
she ninjaed that read on sulp is what got me. I mean I dont think my read on her matters im going to have to vote her for survival it looks like and i think shes a good vote and not in my poe list Whats you PoE list SL? Last I saw you were scumming exactly 1.5 people. ya well its hard to find scum when no one but the obv towns spam up the thread. I probably have the biggest filter too
Oh you sexy beast, longest filter eh. Paired with your 100's of games of experience...
Why are being shy? Show me that PoE list...
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
