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On May 25 2015 09:46 sicklucker wrote:
breske can you talk about bats more? at this point when he flips scum im going to have no choice to lynch you next because of your made up town reads unless your.. you know
OHH lol. My read isn't made up on bats. We mindmelded on the thing about pushing you early. All the shit you found scummy about him is just you looking at stuff in a bad light like his first battrack on you. If you look at it with no bias it IS possible that the way he explained it was how it happened. I think it is far more likely than he forgot what he wrote in the thread 5 mins prior and decided to say something totally diffferent.
The problem is SL can play like this as town I know this. But this is also the reason I gave him a pass last time he was scum.
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Like its a really shitty reason to tr someone. Im not saying it didnt happen but your clinging to it. as an early d1 read sure but welcome to day 2
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Welcome to 3 hours into D2 where bats tells plot he needs to step it up which i also agree with
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In case anyone thinks SL has real reasons for voting me I would never start a case on someone with "I'm going to play the asshole..."
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i am kind of indifferent on who gets voted today including myself
who started the scott wagon?
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On May 25 2015 10:31 Bill Murray wrote:
i am kind of indifferent on who gets voted today including myself
who started the scott wagon?
Rels
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You could argue I was the one who put it over the top tho
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Bunnies is my number 2 lynch.
Votes on dis which seems to mainly be because of a connection between Dis and BF that she sees. Then goes on to later call BF town but doesn't seem to reevaluate Dis.
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game slowed down a lot, and its mainly the experienced players posting
+ Show Spoiler +
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I think lots of the newbies are euros might be a bad time for them
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～ Vote Count ～
sicklucker (3) : Breshke, Tictock, disformation, Bill Murray (X)
batsnacks (1) : sicklucker
27ninjabunnies (1) : batsnacks
Bill Murray (0) : sicklucker (X)
Not voting (6) : 27ninjabunnies, Barakos, Bill Murray, boxerfred, plotspot, Sulfurus
Currently, sicklucker is set to be lynched!
The cycle will end at Tuesday, May 26 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), about 42 hours from this post.
remain as you are reading this.
Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in this thread.
If you see any vote out of place, yell at us or something.
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I'm finally off of work and will be around the next few hours.
On May 25 2015 10:31 Bill Murray wrote:
i am kind of indifferent on who gets voted today including myself
who started the scott wagon?
You've already been inactive like half this game. If you truly feel this way, then just fucking replace.
You made some good posts N1 but I haven't seen the same quality of posts from you today. Then you say your not even going to bother reading the stuff you missed and are just going to wing it from now on.
Shit or get off the pot dude.
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On May 24 2015 19:57 disformation wrote:Sulfurus: 1) Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 06:04 Sulfurus wrote:For me the the person with the most useful reads and my top town is Barakos; he was the one who helped me townread Breshke and scumread Disformation with this post, he has shown a healthy suspicion of NinjaBunnies, and he influenced me to un-vote BM, along with SL, with his coinflip argument (for the record I still think SL is town).] In the bolded post Barakos talks about sicklucker not me.
Whoops I believe that should be a link to post 264
2) Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 15:04 Sulfurus wrote:
@Breshke I'll reread one more time and then I'll answer. I'd like him to follow up on this. 3) He also totally ignored my case/push on him. Maybe because I was the only one seeing something in this? Don't get me wrong, he has a bunch of stuff I like. But I'd def. like to see a more of this guy, before I can give him a solid town read.
IIRC your 'case' against me is that I called Bill Murray 'mislynch bait' which came off as TMI to you. TBH I don't actually know if Bill is town or not but I thought that term sounded better then 'lynch bait' since bait is usually a kind of trap you don't want to get caught in (think fishing) but we want to lynch mafia not avoid it (hopefully that makes sense).
As for Sicklucker I feel he has been so busy defending himself that he hasn't been able to give any useful reads and Rels gave a very good accusation of him here so I don't think I will bother defending and I may even vote on him if it comes down to it.
@Bill Murray I don't quite understand why you rescinded your vote off of SL. Can you please explain?
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Ok first things first. Going to reiterate the case on SL.
Though I'm not going to do it alone...
I have our dearly departed VT Rels to help me out.
On May 24 2015 17:53 Rels wrote:Hello, this is a message for the potentiel vig in this game. I want you to consider a sicklucker shot tonight. Please read this post and think about it. First please read Breshke post here or in spoiler: + Show Spoiler +On May 24 2015 14:07 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 13:14 sicklucker wrote:
one of bunnies or disinfo are scum
probably disinfo Has a shitty push on disinfo doesn't explain anything or put any effort into getting him lynched just faking suspicion to seem town. Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 20:16 sicklucker wrote:
##unvote ##vote scott
Ya whatever. On a quick reread disinfo filter is not really bad. No way we cant kill scott here. I think a policy lynch is fine I have no high percentage flips in my mind Backs of his shitty read again with no reasoning when wagon seems to be going against his partner. Starts bussing to get towncred. Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 05:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ok i just read rels filter. I think he flips scum a bit more then scott I wouldnt mind lynching him. Hard to explian call it a feelin Tries to push rels AGAIN with no reasoning. Does not put any effort into getting rels lynched instead of scott even though scott is just a policy lynch for him and rels he genuinely thinks is scum. SL is not trying to work out the game he mainly just posts to post. Probably started bussing his partner then tried to see if he could start a different wagon. When noone started biting he just drops it. We are lynching SL tomorrow. If that doesn't convince you I will take what I said about him here and add to it. First reasonIn a few of his posts he either says he's town or gives argument to why someone should read him town. Apparently SL is a good player, so that could be straight up subtile manipulation. It is the tactics from commercials; one can only see something so many times before one starts thinking it's true, not knowing where the thought came by. I'm talking about these posts: + Show Spoiler +On May 22 2015 07:22 sicklucker wrote:
disinfo you gonna correctly read me town again? On May 22 2015 09:21 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 08:48 Breshke wrote:
It also says the all Qts were active in the like initial start of game post.
I'm not going to read you for a dumbbell SL I'm going to read you on giving nonsensical town reads and not thinking critically about the game well you should because thats how you read me town On May 22 2015 09:49 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 09:30 Breshke wrote:On May 22 2015 09:22 sicklucker wrote:On May 22 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote:On May 22 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
@tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared.
Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things.
##vote: sicklucker I really like this post and not even because it's telling people to vote SL the thought process is spot on. its really nothing special. And im already playing and trying so its pretty pointless Trying? Saying your town for dumbtelling when its completly within your ability to do it as scum and your only read being that im scum for not calling you town for said dumbtell. I don't call that trying. I get it is early but do you have opinions on anyone? What do you think of disinfo now that the QT thing has been corrected? town points for not realizing their was a scum qt up for 24 hours like any town should On May 22 2015 11:22 sicklucker wrote:
oh I totally took that post out of context hes asking me a qeustion pretty poor writinng . Oh well easy to read me town off that On May 22 2015 11:37 sicklucker wrote:
im so town it hurts On May 24 2015 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
Confirmed not veg dont shoot me mafia. Out for the night in a few On May 24 2015 15:42 sicklucker wrote:
infact I was the hammer of the mafia and batsnackss followed me. I the town hero come at me Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 08:33 Tictock wrote:
@Breshke
Humm you have a point. He did post an handful of stuff pretty fast and then bounce. Seems to be have just made a weak townread and then the weak towny post about not confusing us newbies.
Last game when he was town he never gave a shit about confusing us newbies. Now he's making this post defending newbies and town reading Dis, one of the newbies who was also in the last game with us. This does seem like he's scum motivated. Straigth up this. I read student IX game, and SL was town and didn't give a shit about newbies. Third reasonHe says that BM is a lynch bait, but says this: Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 13:27 sicklucker wrote:
bill murray is lynch bait.
definition - a guy who always looks scummy and gets lynched
not saying dont lynch him but keep that in mind That could be read as "lynch him if you want, when he flips green i'm going to be right". Seems to me like he almost want BM to be lynched without him on the train. Forth reasonUntil late in the last day he didn't vote scott and tried to push other people with no arguments. Really no arguments, just "I'm suspicious of XXX". Even after he voted scott, he still tried to push subtily other people without voting for them. I will list the posts where he does that. I will not post what he said on batsnacks because he actually made a case on him for once. + Show Spoiler +On May 23 2015 11:50 sicklucker wrote:
i think disinfo could be scum On May 23 2015 13:14 sicklucker wrote:
one of bunnies or disinfo are scum
probably disinfo On May 23 2015 13:16 sicklucker wrote:
bats disinfo or bunnies + one of bm or the new guys I havent bother to read at all outside of sulp
Can we just vote bats your townread on him makes no sense breske On May 24 2015 05:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ok i just read rels filter. I think he flips scum a bit more then scott I wouldnt mind lynching him. Hard to explian call it a feelin Lying. No I wasn't. Batsnacks then scott was your lynch. Aaaaaand that's it. sicklucker don't add anything useful, except one post: the one on batsnacks which amazingly I liked. Plus, apparently he plays like that every game, so no one can read him for sure. He really put chaos in the thread with how he posted: for example his defense post just above mine is only a gif. What do you do with people hard to read, scummy, and that does things that cause chaos ? That's right. You vigi'd them. Even if he turns out to be town, that will be less confusion on the thread. So vig, if you even exist in this setup and have not made your mind about shooting, shoot SL.
On May 24 2015 17:58 Rels wrote:Two others point on SL: Sixth reasonShow nested quote +On May 24 2015 15:43 sicklucker wrote:
im vulnerable tictock have any questions for me? Then TT post some questions, and SL doesn't answer. Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 15:45 Tictock wrote:
Already asked dude, though I'd also like to know your thoughts on 27nb and BM.
Off to play games, bbl. Seventh reasonShow nested quote +On May 24 2015 15:34 sicklucker wrote:On May 24 2015 08:11 Rels wrote:On May 24 2015 08:03 disformation wrote:
Well. 1/3 mafia down. Do we have confirmation it is 3 mafia ? I mean, that's what I assume too, but is it written anywhere ? yes its going to always be 3 mafia in 13 player format but if theirs a sk then 2? im not getting many mafia reads so thats possible. Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 15:47 Breshke wrote:On May 24 2015 15:34 sicklucker wrote:On May 24 2015 08:11 Rels wrote:On May 24 2015 08:03 disformation wrote:
Well. 1/3 mafia down. Do we have confirmation it is 3 mafia ? I mean, that's what I assume too, but is it written anywhere ? yes its going to always be 3 mafia in 13 player format but if theirs a sk then 2? im not getting many mafia reads so thats possible. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/473002-metal-mini-mafiaYou were in this game SL and i kno you remember it because its one of the ones you love to mention so much because its the first one i got vig shot in. It had 3 mafia and an SK in a 13 player setup.
I'd also pointed out before EoN...
On May 25 2015 03:22 Tictock wrote:Last point about SL, in fact I'd like to make this point 8 on Rel's list. He posts this, telling a potential Vig to claim so we can discuss his shot. Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
If your a town veg and dont know who to shoot you can just hardclaim now and discuss it without a roleblocker.
Confirmed not veg dont shoot me mafia. Out for the night in a few Then never makes any suggestions about who to shoot. Between that and this post: Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 15:34 sicklucker wrote:On May 24 2015 08:11 Rels wrote:On May 24 2015 08:03 disformation wrote:
Well. 1/3 mafia down. Do we have confirmation it is 3 mafia ? I mean, that's what I assume too, but is it written anywhere ? yes its going to always be 3 mafia in 13 player format but if theirs a sk then 2? im not getting many mafia reads so thats possible. SL is pretty much for sure scum based on all this. I don't own a hat, but I will go out and buy one to eat if he flips green. So, to me the real discussion now is... who Dies after SL?
Just in case that's STILL not enough for you. His posts so far D2 are just filled with lies and misinformation.
This post was directed at Dis (proof)
On May 25 2015 08:04 sicklucker wrote:
I said I was considering voting you did I ever tho? no because before I voted you I read your filter and decided you were not a great vote and then I lynched scum.
Oh really?
On May 23 2015 13:14 sicklucker wrote:
one of bunnies or disinfo are scum
probably disinfo
This was back when SL thought bolding peoples names was voting for them. Bre had to remind him this is not 2+2.
On May 24 2015 06:09 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 06:06 Tictock wrote:
Also SL, you seriously forgot how to format votes here?
Like we played in the same game a week ago and I know your not new to these forums/games... yes I did. I mentioned I played like 100 1 hour mafia games on another site. Alot of your questions are so pointless so maybe thats why I ignore you sometimes and rub you the wrong way
I'd also like to point to one last thing. SL is quick to bring this up when it's used for his own defense...
On May 25 2015 08:41 sicklucker wrote:
Anyone still think im mafia. You have to find a possible partner for me
I was one of the first to give townreads on sulp/ plot (everyone copied my townread on those two) and one of the first on tictock since people forget the reads I have made
Yet clearly forgets that when posting reads and pushing BS.
On May 25 2015 09:32 sicklucker wrote:
1) scott31337 - I Hammered him he was mafia!
ticktock - annoying town dont think he would try to piss me off like this as mafia
5) boxerfred - no Idea I tend to ignore newer players
6) disformation- He was the counter wagon to a mafia so hes safe for today. I really dont read him well I would have to reread his last game. Not voting today
7) Barakos - green checked
8) Sulfurus - I had the same townread on him from his first post as 24/7 bunnies did . I know I was a little weird with that post timing but it was just me thinking out loud in thread. since i tr him i mostly ignored him which is probably not great but its what ive done
9) 27ninjabunnies - Was at first suspicious but leaned slightly town because I noticed we had same reads on people like sluf
10) Bill Murray - him getting soft pushed by a 3 post confirmed mafia is probably a great reason to keep him around
11) Breshke - been tring him but Think he has some mafia equity. Not gonna reread him now because I cant get him lynched anyway
13) batsnacks - Hes town when her pushes people. Here hes not pushing anyone he even backtracks on me Think hes scum
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no veg came forward (theres not one) so of course im not gonna waste my time discussing who to kill.
No one would listen to me anyway so why would I ever suggest a shot? lol
I just said to come forward if your a newb and need help. Dont overthink it
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Now for my case against plots.
Plots has made 2 reads posts, he mentions SL both times.
His first read:
On May 23 2015 11:20 plotspot wrote:
1. sicklucker (SL): from the graphics I see he has a very scheduley style. Drops in, reads everything, make posts and replies. He has conversed mostly with Breshke. At around 4 hours into the game he seemed to have an hour where he dominates the thread with conversation. I lean towards SL as town-null.
And his latest read:
On May 25 2015 08:29 plotspot wrote:
TOWN READ:
Sicklucker: I admit I might be biased here, from his early posts on D1 4 hours into the game. I had the feeling he really thought about the game and was wondering how to progress it. From then on it was just his natural style, dropping in, posting in streaks, discussing stuff with people online and then vanishing again. I felt he was genuine, it was his style. Ok starting from post 357 (on my sheet) he starts to randomly scum leaning people without providing long-winded reasons. I guess he has me sold when he scumleaned Rels, who I admitted I thought was scum for reasons I posted. So yeah to D1 I think he is town.
He highly stresses SL's play in the first 4 hours of the game as showing he really thought about the game and was wondering how to progress it. Just for Fun I'm leaving all the posts SL makes in the first 5 hours of the game. Do you agree with plots read? + Show Spoiler +
Plots also says he's sold by SL scumleaning Rels. For refference lets look at where SL does that, On May 24 2015 05:35 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2015 20:36 Rels wrote:
Yo a quick post and I'll be gone until the deadline. Hope I can be around just before but no guarantee.
First scott still haven't showed up and answered the questions ... questions he asked for in his last post may I remind you. So I'm happy to see him lynch atm.
Second I don't like this wagon on disformation at all. The only one with arguments is Barakos so I'm not suspicious of him, but the other two I am (27nb and plotspot). I don't like plotspot voting on an analysis made on the first hours of the game.
Talking about plotspot. Woaw that's a lot of work. But I agree with ticktock's thoughts on him in his list post. Don't have a lot of time so you will have to find it yourself. To summarize what I liked about his argument:
What plotspot did takes a lot of work. But he doesn't push any agenda and it's pretty non alignment indicative. If all a mafia has to do to look town is to make pretty graphics that takes 6 hours to make, we wouldn't catch any. So I agree to not lynch him today but he's not town forever for me.
Last about SL. Again (= I don't like that he says "plotspot is town forever maybe" and then he says "what you did doesn't bring a lot to the table". I don't like how he responded to batsnacks' pressure.
Sorry about the lack of quotes I have to go. My list lynch is:
Scott
BM
SL
See you tonight, hopefully before EOD! Have a good day (= ya scum would be
On May 24 2015 05:46 sicklucker wrote:
Ok i just read rels filter. I think he flips scum a bit more then scott I wouldnt mind lynching him. Hard to explian call it a feelin
Now we have plots own reads on Rels. I think it's worth noting he never did give a read on Rel until AFTER he flipped green.
On May 25 2015 07:10 plotspot wrote:
How do you know Rels wasn't Vig shot? I was about to make a case on scumreading him hard for the following points I prepared:
Rels: referring too much to others opinion, reading thread very carefully, the way RELS sets up lynch is also very comfortable (like lynch inactives), giving orders to others, thanks my post but posts no further thoughts, in comparison to Disinformation who displays overall anxiety in his reads and thoughts, Rels looks like he can handle any sudden change, there is nothing clouding his mind, others apparently have to do more than Rels,
you bet if I was Vig I would have shot her.
Quite an interesting read and an interesting timing on it as well. I've bolded a few of his points he mentions as to why he scums Rel. Do these points sound like anybody else we know?
I'm also having a hard time understanding why a townie (a newbie btw) would post this after a green flip. Rels is not going "oh shit we just lost an active town", rather he's saying "yea I woulda shot this dude too, thought he was scum". I also can't help but notice he posts this an hour before he makes his read on SL, like he's making sure he has that statement out there before using it to support a read.
His weak town reads on SL are also the start of my association case so keep them in mind.
I have more to come, but that feels like enough for one post.
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On May 25 2015 14:42 sicklucker wrote:
no veg came forward (theres not one) so of course im not gonna waste my time discussing who to kill.
Keep feeding me stuff to repost with proper emphasis SL.
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How anyone can think plots is scum here is beyond me. not even reading that post
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