EPTOn May 23 2015 09:11 Bill Murray wrote:
im home and i have my computer set up at my new house
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im home and i have my computer set up at my new house
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sicklucker
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
I'm trying to hold it off a bit though, giving the inactive people a little more time to post respond. I'm currently still liking my vote on plots, I'll expand on some things I picked up shortly. We really need more activity from scott, plots, and sul. BS is also slacking a little, and he is being overprotective of BF. Maybe they are Masons? I'm def leaning town on both of them atm or I'd be taking this as a scum association. I'm having a hard time following Dis's case on Sul. I'm not to happy that Sul has been lurking mostly, but his few posts contain a fair bit of quality. Enough for me to not want to lynch him today. Dis himself is earning some town cred for the push there though. 27nb, your point about a possible connection between Dis and BF is reaching a little imo. I have a hard time believing Mafia would be trying to start their own wagon today. Much more likely they are sheeping bad town votes. Rels is looking like some Super Town play. Dude is pushing other peoples questions for them? Right on! | ||
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plotspot
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This concerns the first 6:43 hours into the game. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/OuI7Efv.png) Figure 1: Posts by people according to time You don't need to understand every bit of connotation I made. "red" means the first post being done, which might confuse a few since it's the color used for scumming. If you have any questions, please ask, while I'm still here. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2FFn2lI.png) Figure 2: Interaction parameters This should be read as "person on the left talking TO or ABOUT" person above. So for example a Tictock -> BillM = 8 means Tictock has talked to BM 8 times or it could mean he talked to him 6 times and 4 times he mentioned him in a conversation. Here is how I rate the interaction. replying/taking stance in a general way:0,5 name mentioning: 0,5 casing: 1 asking question: 1 answering question: 1 voting: 2 unvoting: -1 saying unrelated stuff: 0 saying something about oneself or announcement for public: 1 --- OK with that done I will summarize my opinion about everyone up to 6:43 so far, before I go to bed. Tomorrow more. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
I'll disregard my thoughts on you till I read this over carefully. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
I'm fairly impressed. Yet... what does all this tell you? | ||
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sicklucker
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sicklucker
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plotspot
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On May 23 2015 10:46 sicklucker wrote: no one is allowed to vote plots today maybe ever Your not my Dad! | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
I acualy see what hes trying to do with the chart. looking for who ignores who. But now that its out in the open mafia will spam their team mates | ||
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batsnacks
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batsnacks
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plotspot
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2. 27ninjabunnies (27): didn't have many posts and made an early showing (3 posts within the first 30 min) to disappear for almost 4 hours. Coming back with a round of question directed at especially the newbie players. Proceeds to townread Sulfurus. I need to see more for a decision. Null read. 3. disformation (DI): My scumread so far. He's fairly active in the first 3 hours, posting really in between the conversation of others with fine, careful, uncommiting. While others seem fairly focused on their conversation, he's kinda lurking and picking cherries. You have to go back, read and see what I mean. I'd vote for him. 4. Bill Murray (BM): I have trouble reading him. He seems like he's really enjoying the game and doesn't really give a fuck. From 3:00 to 4:00 he was in some sort of a posting streak, where I think he really tried to analyzes the situation. Null read so far. 5. Batsnacks (BS): he was the guy who opened with this Iching thing, then was active for 2 h and vanished (into the night maybe). For all I see he could be mafia trying to poke in, than seeing nothing really endangering him and backs off. I do notice though he has 3 interaction points towards SL, but SL seems to kinda ignore him. 6. Tictock (TT): the most active person in my opinion, he has interaction towards with BM, SL, BR, BS. All 7 points or above, but he hasn't gotten the same resonance from the others back, which means he talks to them in the same amount as he talks about them, in which case they don't feel the need to reply. I think many posts from TT are strange: like implying SL disappearing (when it's normal and his style is like this) as some sort of anomaly, or not noticing BM was posting ironically (when he said his vote on 27 was serious) when to me it's clear as day, or befriending Batsnacks all of a sudden. I don't know it sounds paradoxical but I can only townread and scumread him at the same time. There is no null here. 7. Breshke (BR): The only thing I found strange at the beginning is how he quickly zoned in on SL. But I think he is smart and later also gave a reason why he did that without really thinking SL is scum. I think they both reach a point where they think about each other: "hmm I cannot scumread you just yet". I'm leaning towards town with Breshke, for his activity and sense-making so far. 8. Sulfurus (SU): sure is a bold thing to vote with the first post. And he doesn't seem to have second thoughts about his read either. I kinda like this attitude, but I need to see more posts and make a decision on him 9. scott31337 (SC): appears rather late to just talke about BM and SL, not really trying to drive some conversation. I need to see more. Ok that's it, I need to go to bed now. Tomorrow I hope to be able to catch up and make more reads about 27ninja, Sulfurus, scott and the three that had not yet posted at that time, Rels, boxerfred and Barakos. ##Vote: disformation | ||
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batsnacks
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Tictock
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The flashy graphics were nice and all, but it was really some decent reads here that have me sold. Though I think this is far too much work to keep up, or at least it's payoff is limited for the upkeep, I'd be interested to see more of this. Your point about SL jumping into the thread at regular intervals matches up with how I've perceived him to be playing, interesting to see points like that come from your charts. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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sicklucker
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + First I just want to state that while pushing to lynch lurkers is considered policy lynching, I'd like to suggest to people that we not just give lurkers a pass D1 and rather try to put much more emphasis on what they ARE posting. So that's what I'm doing here. I already discussed my opinion of plots opening. On May 22 2015 12:50 Tictock wrote: I think it falls more into a 2scum2Bscum category. As plenty of other people have stated this hasn't been a hugely active start, nobody is making giant walls of text, I mean you yourself have kept up with it really well. So posting "lol, games started? BBL" is pretty lazy. Actually, no lazy would just not post tonight and jump into the game whenever. This is actively excusing inactivity, that's pretty scummy. His next few posts after his bad opening are complete garbage, discussing nothing in game. He throws out a few quotes with a comment about them but this all amounts to nothing. All of these spoilered posts are throwaway imo, and are just attempts to be looking active. + Show Spoiler + He responds to me in a VERY interesting way. On May 22 2015 23:20 plotspot wrote: Breshke got it right though. I was playing some video game for too long and it was already 4:49, so I decided I just post some sort of notice of action/activity. Is it better than not post something at all? It depends on the people obviously, reading up to here (p13/first post) you and BM thought it suspicious. If I didn't do anything, then other people would find it suspicious for other reasons. I find his choice in what post of mine to quote here quite telling actually. Notice this was right before my real reasons for voting plots and he picked the easier post to defend against. He is also telling us here that his opening post was to post some kind of action/activity but his opening post was literally "lol woops, game's started? I'll check it out later" There was no apologetic tone, no real promise to make it up, and certainly nothing active about it. Then we have the only post of note from plots here. Where he only really null reads Bre and BM. He says he's leaning scum on them both, but also makes points that they could be town. The fact that he says "Breshke appears very townish" and then still says he's scum leaning him, makes me think these reads are very forced. I was going to make another point regarding plots question here. It's more about content and sharing opinions then activity. Clearly you understand that at some level since you read me as one of the most active players yet can't decide where my alignment is. Activity can be a towny or a scummy trait, whats important is what results from actions and the overall content in posts. | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
ignore this it's nothing + Show Spoiler + but I'm probably not switching  | ||
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