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Rels
France13467 Posts
On May 23 2015 00:15 disformation wrote: @plotspot: You stated that you think that mafia is/was already active in the thread trying to test the waters. Who would you pick out as Mafia? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
Who would you lynch and why ? The why part being the more important. | ||
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Barakos
Germany358 Posts
On May 23 2015 00:15 disformation wrote: @Sulfurus: Did your reads on Breshke change? Who would be your #2 lynch after Breshke, if he is still your top scum? He already switched votes to bm. But I can see, how someone could miss this, given that sulfurus already got 5 posts. :p | ||
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plotspot
800 Posts
On May 23 2015 00:15 disformation wrote: Okay finished with work. Will be on my way home soon. Should back in around 1h.  First glance at the interaction between ticktoc and BM I got the feeling that BM was just trolling around trying to provoke a reaction from ticktoc, which he got. Otherwise a bit spamy, but I can see towny posts here and there. Will read more carefully when I am back at home. But I still want to see some more action from him today. @plotspot: You stated that you think that mafia is/was already active in the thread trying to test the waters. Who would you pick out as Mafia? @Sulfurus: Did your reads on Breshke change? Who would be your #2 lynch after Breshke, if he is still your top scum? "@plotspot: You stated that you think that mafia is/was already active in the thread trying to test the waters. Who would you pick out as Mafia?" To be honest I'm not quite sure. About Breshke: Initially I thought Breshke was scummy for his quick jumping on SL. But then I figured it was just his way of applying pressure on him to see his (SL's) true color. Breshke appears very townish. Breshke is like the NB VII game I played with him, very collected and professional. Though I have to point out, it didn't help us in the end since town still lost, when he couldn't figured out the real cuprits. About BM: he is always borderline provocative and scummy. But I think he is intelligent and a keen observer. These are the two that have given me some scum vibe so far. Last game (NV VIII) I was replaced due to illness. This was a game where I observed that scums are usually REACTIONARY and CAREFUL of some sorts. After having a first impression of the thread by having read it all, I will filter-read everyone now in order to find patterns of reactionary and careful behaviour. Yeah expect something in less than to 6 hours, I'm actually still at work and totally underestmiated to time it took for all this again. I'm lucky that my work load is rather flexible, but still, it's already out of plan here. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
scott plotspot BM BF SL batsnacks @scott plotspot and batsnacks: you're mostly here because you're not posting a lot / at all. Please do! You may say why ? Wonder no more! Here is my thinking: scott: see my post: + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 17:10 Rels wrote: Scott31337 Two posts. One useless. The other one, that you can read on spoiler, is even worse IMO: he tries to discuss two things but is not saying anything worthwhile. Seems scum to me. +1 to SL even though it is an obivous joke. + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 11:44 scott31337 wrote: Dinner was good and now time to get to work... I'm unsure what to think of BM's early vote, maybe just to get some discussion started? He unvoted though. SL loves to fakeclaim as town. +1 To add to it, the other post by scott was also pretty bad, criticizing plotspot for inactivity. plotspot: came back today but didn't say anything much. Only two posts analyzing something and one of them I didn't understand. This one: + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 23:03 plotspot wrote: (p10,last post) concerning last question: I think a lot of smoke bombs have been thrown out. Mafia most likely has already poked in to test the waters. Some 5-corner logics about knowing or not knowing whether "scum quick topic" has been opened prior the 24 h of silent prelude. All of his other posts are him defending himself. BM: Moved him down 'cause other people seems to think that's his way of posting. Even though, no prob lynching him until he comes back and does something useful. BF: My two previous posts: + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 23:00 Rels wrote: I have the opposite view actually. Before you started pressuring him, I was sure he was a newbie. Now that you made him post more I'm not so sure ... I will quote everytime he said he was newb or something like that in his filter. Everything in the spoiler: + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 19:17 boxerfred wrote: I have no idea who I should vote for :/ On May 22 2015 19:32 boxerfred wrote: Barakos going the coach way :D I was just starting to ask my coach about that. [...] On May 22 2015 22:23 boxerfred wrote: "WIFOM"? [...] Reading about "trying to pocket", [...] On May 22 2015 22:27 boxerfred wrote: [...] Thus far, I'm not understanding every point of your argumentation and I surely will require some time to iterate over the given posts and see them in context. That's 5 times for 13 posts. On May 23 2015 00:00 Rels wrote: There are other things: First, you make a few posts that don't help. They are just noise. Example: + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 19:10 boxerfred wrote: I meant timezone, not schedule. Day one votes suck there's like no indication about anything. Since I still have to cast my vote though I'll re-read the posts and see if I can find something indicating something. Thus far, I can't tell the difference from someone being trolling and someone casting a vote in a serious manner. On May 22 2015 19:38 boxerfred wrote: Hmm.. lots of indicators, nothing too special. Then again we have Rels, discussing quite actively about who to set up for a lynch - to me, that indicates that he's townie since he's being rational and trying to argue in a very rational way. That could mean that Rels and Sulfurus are the two masons, further strengthening that BM might be scum. Assumptions, assumptions.. On May 22 2015 19:44 boxerfred wrote: However, there are still the silent people in here. That's like the worst strategy ever in terms of "making gameplay exciting". The swarmhost/turtle of Mafia :D Second, this: You have time to defend yourself, but you don't have time to comment on the post you said you were going to comment. And finally, 27nb's post about you. + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 23:04 27ninjabunnies wrote: So for me, it was weird how he entered into the thread. I don't like to use entrances as alignment indicative but I just don't understand why he would enter with this post here: It's as if he is trying to enter the thread in a funny way, but falled short. Again, random funny-ish second post. IT was mostly just these two posts that stood out to me as I was reading. As you further progress in his filter, he actually starts making reads, questioning, but Im not sure what to make of it. He pushes a bit on BM, but then unvotes after a case made by Dis on me. I'm not sure how this one case changes his read from BM is mafia to I am mafia over BM. HE doesn't really explain it. Just unvotes, and then says he'll read the case on me later. This makes me think there is a HIGH connection between Dis and BF, which makes me want to lynch them both. And makes me think I might be wrong on Dis.... SL: Lots of things have been said. I cannot see him getting lynched today though. Because no one can read him. batsnacks: didn't change my mind on this one: + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 17:10 Rels wrote: batsnacks Really disliked his opening post as it was obviously prepared during the break before the game. For me it looks like he was thinking "hey I don't know what to say ? lets post some bullshit haha" Another thing, I disliked the post in spoiler. He asks a (good IMO) question to tictock, so goes on to pressure SL. + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote: @tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared. Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things. ##vote: sicklucker | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On May 23 2015 00:43 plotspot wrote: "@plotspot: You stated that you think that mafia is/was already active in the thread trying to test the waters. Who would you pick out as Mafia?" To be honest I'm not quite sure. About Breshke: Initially I thought Breshke was scummy for his quick jumping on SL. But then I figured it was just his way of applying pressure on him to see his (SL's) true color. Breshke appears very townish. Breshke is like the NB VII game I played with him, very collected and professional. Though I have to point out, it didn't help us in the end since town still lost, when he couldn't figured out the real cuprits. About BM: he is always borderline provocative and scummy. But I think he is intelligent and a keen observer. These are the two that have given me some scum vibe so far. Last game (NV VIII) I was replaced due to illness. This was a game where I observed that scums are usually REACTIONARY and CAREFUL of some sorts. After having a first impression of the thread by having read it all, I will filter-read everyone now in order to find patterns of reactionary and careful behaviour. Yeah expect something in less than to 6 hours, I'm actually still at work and totally underestmiated to time it took for all this again. I'm lucky that my work load is rather flexible, but still, it's already out of plan here. OK TY for the explanation of this weird post. Looking forward for your reads! | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On May 22 2015 17:07 Barakos wrote: @batsnacks: You said you were able to read stuff into the way people interpret your iching-writing. What do you make of disformations interpretation? And what do you get out of Tictocks response to your writing? On May 22 2015 18:03 Rels wrote: Alright thanks (= Now since you're there: What do you think of disformation ? What do you think of Breshk's pressure ? On May 22 2015 18:32 Rels wrote: Second, about BM, see the quotes below (in spoiler so this post is not too long): + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2015 09:04 batsnacks wrote: (About BM) You're probably going to hit a wall here because he is almost certainly as serious as he claims. He has fired his shot the ball is in our court now. So @SL @Batsnacks and @Anyone that has every played with BM: Is there something I don't know ? Cause for me he is the most obvious scum of the thread, but is it normal for him even for town ? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
##Vote scott31337 | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
Tictock seems like his town game so far - Not a D1 lynch I don't like BM's post here - On May 22 2015 14:15 Bill Murray wrote: Read your post right above where I said that. You literally had a typo 39 seconds before that... It was a joke Completely disagree with you You must be hyper imposing First off my name isn't Murray you can call me bill or BM. Call me Murray again and I promise you my vote won't leave you. Second , I don't have any "agenda" other than reading this game and trying to help new players. Who do you think you are? You say I'm voting in a scummy manner but provide no reasoning and no case of your own. You then go on to trying to refute my case on plotspot and Breshke. Cute. I isn't realize we had a white knight in our noobs. I'm just glad town will largely ignore you because you have a whopping five posts on this website and ou obviously don't know what you're doing. He's trying to incite Sulfurus here using emotion - Calling him a noob, says he doesn't know what he is doing, etc because he used his "last name"? Sulfurus has not replied to this yet, though. Often this is a mafia trait, and doing it to a "noob" so quickly is pretty bad. Sulf hasn't done much in the game either, and seems tunneled on BM. Batsnacks could go either way, he needs to set up some Battraps(tm) though, that'd be great. BM would be at the top of my lynch list at the moment though - but we have plenty of time Anyone have any questions for me? | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On May 23 2015 00:32 Barakos wrote: He already switched votes to bm. But I can see, how someone could miss this, given that sulfurus already got 5 posts. :p *facepalm* Oh my, I am such a genius. :D Comes from mixing work and mafia I guess. Anyway you get townie brownie for pointing that out. @plotspot: great. looking forward to see what you'll deliver. @bunnies: On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote: However, I haven't moved my vote on SL because SL hasn't done anything to prove to me he is town. I'll go over this a bit later. Just a friendly reminder.  | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
So BM is your top scum read? I like your explanation for that. Do you have a solid #2 atm and why? Noticed any noteworthy things? What do you think of the interactions with bunnies and BF? | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
Maybe should clarify... was asking about bunnies and BF in general, since there was a bit of interaction going on earlier. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
I'm not lynching bats today my mind meld with him about the SL pressure was too good. I would also like to specifically know bunnies read on bats. I also am warming up to an SL lynch again if he hasn't done stuff by the time I wake up because I don't want to fall into the trap of lyching new people for playing like new people even though that kind of makes it easier for scum. Lastly boxerfred you said you have said you have some experience with mafia. Where you play is it normally majority lynch mechanic instead of plurality? | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
What is your opinion of SL? You also made a comment on plots opening post, he's been more active today. What do you think about it? | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
We need more of this from you. On May 23 2015 00:43 plotspot wrote: "@plotspot: You stated that you think that mafia is/was already active in the thread trying to test the waters. Who would you pick out as Mafia?" To be honest I'm not quite sure. About Breshke: Initially I thought Breshke was scummy for his quick jumping on SL. But then I figured it was just his way of applying pressure on him to see his (SL's) true color. Breshke appears very townish. Breshke is like the NB VII game I played with him, very collected and professional. Though I have to point out, it didn't help us in the end since town still lost, when he couldn't figured out the real cuprits. About BM: he is always borderline provocative and scummy. But I think he is intelligent and a keen observer. These are the two that have given me some scum vibe so far. Last game (NV VIII) I was replaced due to illness. This was a game where I observed that scums are usually REACTIONARY and CAREFUL of some sorts. After having a first impression of the thread by having read it all, I will filter-read everyone now in order to find patterns of reactionary and careful behaviour. Yeah expect something in less than to 6 hours, I'm actually still at work and totally underestmiated to time it took for all this again. I'm lucky that my work load is rather flexible, but still, it's already out of plan here. As for questions. I'd really like to know who is scum in your mind. In the post I just quoted you both tell us that Bre and BM look scummy but give them town cred at the same time. So who do you think we should lynch today? | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On May 23 2015 01:30 Tictock wrote: We need more like this from you. EBWOP I'd like to hear about other players from you now. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
you are asking a lot of questions, which I like. Last set of your reads states that your #1 lynch is plotspot, breshke is a scum lean and sicklucker is a forced null. Assuming plotspot does the stuff he promised and looks town of of that, who would you lynch? breshke? Do you have anything you think makes Breshke look like he is scum other than his opening? As described in: On May 22 2015 12:50 Tictock wrote: This is a decent explanation, but I don't like how much he disregarded while tunneling SL. Not a strong enough case for me to pursue but I'd like to see more from him. Hoping to see this pick up by the time I wake up. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
Besides me, who else do you read as scum and/or are you willing to lynch. And please explain why. Also: If you have any other questions for me, feel free to ask. | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
I have items of interest: Rels you should narrow down your "would lynch" list to at most 2 people, preferably one. Having too many "would lynches" can lead to you being able to pick any optimal target you want as mafia. That said its I don't think you're mafia and it's great that you have found so many different things to be suspicious of. But yeah, moving forward its best to narrow that list down by a lot. Boxerfred is never mafia in this game. I am extremely critical of anyone that thinks they can scumread him for any reason. That said, boxerfred should lay off the role speculation. It's too early to speculate about that stuff. Breshke's pressure is good, the stuff he said about bunnies is the strongest case I've read. I was leaning scum on bunnies and she made some decent responses. I am critical of her scumread or whatever it is on boxerfred I don't understand how anyone can scum read that guy. If I were near a computer or had more time for anything but a brief update I would probably be filtering bunnies. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
He's defended plots about his opening. I could make an association read there since you are correct plots is still my #1 scum. Doing so feels a little WIFOM right now, but if we lynch Plots and he flips Red Bre will look pretty bad. At the same time SL also defended plots' opening though... Idk it's probably NAI. Worth keeping in mind though This is an interesting sheep by Bre On May 22 2015 17:09 Breshke wrote: Hey! I knew i remembered your name my first game was your first game barakos but lets not remember that game. You raise a good point. Looking through his filter he doesn't seem to draw conclusions from stuff like in your last quote he says a bunch of stuff about SL but doesn't really draw a conclusion from any of it. I do kind of like the reason he gave for the ticktock townread while the reason doesn't hold weight with me I think it is a good reason to town-read someone. It is good enough for me to change my vote though ##Unvote ##Vote disformation (totally thought his name was disinformation) I also kind of don't like this When scott leaves right after it after having only one other post. Feels scummy Overall I like his thinking this game though. On May 22 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote: I really like this post and not even because it's telling people to vote SL the thought process is spot on. I had kinda forgotten about this post. It actually kinda nullifies my reasons for suspecting Bre in the first place too. I'll move him to a slight town lean for now. So if Plots suddenly replaces or something, I'd be willing to get on a BM wagon. Scott is another good target right now I think, he really hasn't done mush more than plots. | ||
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