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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 23 2015 04:32 GMT
#501
Like heres bats logic. "sick lucker can never get lynched if hes town lets just vote him"

into

"screw it lets just kill sicklucker hes ignoring presure even tho he has 0 votes

lol pressure im not under any real threat here ill bust it open if I feel threatened
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 23 2015 05:03 GMT
#502
I don't understand though if he is going along with thread sentiment would that not mean there is already pressure on you.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 23 2015 05:10 GMT
#503
in his opinion there is. not in my opinion

but say hes mafia he has to push someone
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
May 23 2015 05:17 GMT
#504
On May 23 2015 11:50 sicklucker wrote:
ya of course i ignore batsnacks lol

On May 23 2015 12:03 batsnacks wrote:
##vote sicklucker

ignore this it's nothing

+ Show Spoiler +
but I'm probably not switching


I can take that responsibility.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 23 2015 05:30 GMT
#505
So then in your opinion he isnt following thread sentiment then SL? So i don't see what your problem is with him
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
May 23 2015 06:15 GMT
#506
~ Vote Count ~

disformation (3) : Barakos, Breshke (X), 27ninjabunnies, plotspot
scott31337 (3) : Rels, batsnacks (X), Tictock, Breshke
plotspot (1) : Bill Murray, Tictock (X)
Sulfurus (1) : disformation
sicklucker (1) : Breshke (X), batsnacks (X), Bill Murray (X), batsnacks
27ninjabunnies (0) : Bill Murray (X)
Bill Murray (0) : Tictock (X), Sulfurus (X), Rels (X), boxerfred (X)
boxerfred (0) : Rels (X)
Breshke (0) : Sulfurus (X)

Not voting (4) : boxerfred, scott31337, sicklucker, Sulfurus

Currently, disformation is set to be lynched!
The cycle will end at Saturday, May 23 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), less than 16 hours from this post.
remain as you are reading this.

Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in this thread.

If you see any vote out of place, holler at us and we will look into it.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 23 2015 07:32 GMT
#507
On May 23 2015 13:19 sicklucker wrote:
like that post...

batsnacks



SL this post here. Is it ment to be you voting batsnacks? I assume this is you being confused because you play on 2 + 2 aswell and if it is im not sure how you havnt noticed that none of your votes count nor the wraning from the host that said to format your shit correctly.

So you have either never voted which is retarded because you have posted so much so what would all the posting have been for you arn't pushing shit nor trying to work out the game.

Or you have been trying to vote and have not been paying attention to the thread hardly at all to realize that you havn't been doing it correctly. Which would be scummy because once again you havn't been trying to figure out the game.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 23 2015 07:49 GMT
#508
Breshke, I'm used to a setup where one vote is enough to decide. If vote counts are even, the mayor decides.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 23 2015 07:52 GMT
#509
I noticed that Rels and disinformation who are actively putting pressure als well as removing pressure from people never put pressure on each other. That might point to a connection between them which can be good or bad.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 23 2015 07:53 GMT
#510
BM kinda disappeared though, he's not in the original scope anymore and turned quiet, indicating he's quite glad the pushing stopped and doesn't want to risk a thing now.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 23 2015 08:01 GMT
#511
We need scott to step up and say a bit more.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 23 2015 08:03 GMT
#512
I think I'll vote for whoever is really inactive. That's like the safest way to not lose someone who's really valuable.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 23 2015 08:07 GMT
#513
On May 23 2015 09:22 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 09:18 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 23 2015 09:09 disformation wrote:
On May 23 2015 08:56 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 23 2015 08:44 disformation wrote:
On May 23 2015 08:37 27ninjabunnies wrote:
OMGUS? Did you call me mafia? I can't remember?

What connection between sulfurus and me?
I called sulfurus town. Not much to it.
I still need to read Sulfurus' recent posts to get a feel for if still town or not. But from early posts, yes. sulfurus seemed pretty town.


I was implying a possible mafia connection between him and you via:
On May 22 2015 11:43 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Sulfurus top town newbie read.
Not lynching for entire game.

Or maybe atleast 2 days

Which is imo way stronger than you giving him a town read. Especially for that one post (which had a mistake in it).


I see me giving a read on sulfurus, but has sulfurus actually given a read on me? *Reads sulfurus filter* Nope

So not sure how you can see a connection, except a one sided connection.

Top newbie read- he was a newbie, commented on a question I asked, and his answer seemed genuine at the time


Hmm... you are right. I should demote you from main dish status and give that to BF.
Think I got to excited about the possible TMI Slip by Sulfurus and the possibility of getting two mafia out of it, if there was a connection to you.

Oh, well this bodes well for tomorrow. At least you people will have something to talk about. xD

What TMI slip?


Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 07:31 disformation wrote:
Though why does SL saying that BM is lynch bait hold that much importance for you? Where did you get the miss from?
On May 22 2015 13:27 sicklucker wrote:
bill murray is lynch bait.

definition - a guy who always looks scummy and gets lynched

not saying dont lynch him but keep that in mind


Calling a BM a misslynch sounds a bit like TooMuchInformation to me.

What do you think about bunnies and boxerfred? Why do you think so?
Who would you vote for now? Why?


Possible TMI slip. Basically calls BM a misslynch out of the blue. I want to know his reaction/what he has to say about that.
You did read my case, right?

I don't think it's a TMI because he's keeping his options open: "not saying dont lynch him but keep that in mind"
However, I'm not taking this too serious because the beginning of the thread was a lot less serious, including my first posts (which led Rels to not like me). If it's TMI though it might go into him being closely linked to another town role.
To conclude this, I don't think SL is scum and lean him towards town.

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 23 2015 08:14 GMT
#514
On May 23 2015 04:58 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 04:43 boxerfred wrote:
On May 23 2015 03:49 disformation wrote:
Also. Since you like my case but see a lot of town in bunnies, where do you place bunnies now? Who would you lynch as of now and why?

I place bunnies at someone who's really trying to gather information, can't really tell if that's for scum or for town. Tending towards town somehow though.


I want to see a bit more fire!
Scum generally doesn't want the town to collect new information... unless said information turns out to be confusing or distracting for town. Do you get that feeling from bunnies?

Also nothing on the second part of the question... still no idea who to vote for I guess? Keeping options as open as possible makes you look a bit scummy here. Though granted, I don't look much better right now. xD

(for the record: I have a question for bunnies and another one for Sulfurus. Also still haven't seen much from plotspot and scott. Also suspicious of BM. Wouldn't lynch bunnies atm, the others could be candidates for that.)

Following your words, you're trying to subtly persuade me that bunnies is not scum:
"I place bunnies at someone who's really trying to gather information" vs. "Scum generally doesn't want the town to collect new information". Which would be strange since you made a case about him that made me put myself into the fire by initially unvoting BM and following your case.So either you're just testing the waters, thus confusing many people (pointing out you lean towards scum/sk) or you're dead serious and have a flaw in that post regarding my person.

So, no, I don't get that feeling from bunnies.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 23 2015 08:18 GMT
#515
Im about to head out but disfo was saying that Sulf TMI slipped not SL.

People are getting confused because he put his quotes in an odd place. The sl quote that is there is the one that sulf commented on saying that BM would be a misslynch. This infers BM is town because you don't misslynch scum.

But to be clear he did not mean SL slipped he ment sulf, read it with that in mind and it makes sense. I don't think it makes sulf scum but I can see how disfo thinks that.

Also BF i would be careful. Low activity does not always equal scum. Try find something more substantial if you can but scott would be a good pplace to vote if your going to vote inactivity. Remember you can always unvote so its good to vote early
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 23 2015 08:19 GMT
#516
Whoa, almost edited the above post: wanted to add that while I think disinformation is definitely "overcaring" for others, that doesn't necessarily mean that he's scum. I'm still tending to lynch one of the inactive guys.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 23 2015 08:23 GMT
#517
On May 23 2015 17:18 Breshke wrote:
Im about to head out but disfo was saying that Sulf TMI slipped not SL.

People are getting confused because he put his quotes in an odd place. The sl quote that is there is the one that sulf commented on saying that BM would be a misslynch. This infers BM is town because you don't misslynch scum.

But to be clear he did not mean SL slipped he ment sulf, read it with that in mind and it makes sense. I don't think it makes sulf scum but I can see how disfo thinks that.

Also BF i would be careful. Low activity does not always equal scum. Try find something more substantial if you can but scott would be a good pplace to vote if your going to vote inactivity. Remember you can always unvote so its good to vote early

Ah shit I misread it. Okay now I get disinformation's thought. But I can't see how that makes Sulf scum, too.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 23 2015 08:23 GMT
#518
Okay, I'm out for some more hours.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
May 23 2015 09:17 GMT
#519
Ok EoD is coming soon and we need to get our votes in order boys.

Spoilers contain the reasons for my reads.

I've already given my views on scott31337.
On May 23 2015 12:08 Tictock wrote:
Scott opens giving SL super easy towncred, questions plots opening, then makes an ok post.
He gives a few more easy townreads then starts to suspect BM but is unwilling to actually pressure.
In fact he ends this post with this
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 00:59 scott31337 wrote:
BM would be at the top of my lynch list at the moment though - but we have plenty of time

Anyone have any questions for me?


That's a bit too casual for my tastes, especially since he hasn't posted since this.

## Vote: scott31337


I'm not even sure I need to remind people where Rels sits.

So this dude plotspots who was super inactive at first makes a crazy spreadsheet/timetable of everyones posts for the first few hours of the game, this is posted ~20something hours before EoD. He gives us a decent chunk of reads based on this (do keep in mind he's ignoring more than half the game in this analysis). The effort is impressive, though I know I'm not alone feeling it's misguided. I left some thoughts I had about him pre-graphics which I think still hold for the most part.
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#NotAlone
On May 23 2015 10:45 sicklucker wrote:
im not sure that charts gonna be useful but i wont vote you for making it

On May 23 2015 11:24 batsnacks wrote:
I really hate the activity based reads but meh plot is never the lynch on effort alone. I also hate this disformation wagon. Scotts is the better place for any vote... but... again whatev because disformation doesn't need me to defend him.



Boxerfred is a guy I'm just not sure how to read yet. My instincts tell me he is just a newer player here and is used to a different play-style. I'd really like to see him answer Bre's question about his typical mafia experience and will be looking for more on him in the future. Will take some work to get me to lynch the guy.

There are a lot of votes on Dis while all the reads and cases on him are super weak. I expect much better reasoning than what I am seeing from people given the length of his filter. The guy is so clearly town that I'm scumming anyone who stays on that wagon without giving better reasoning.
+ Show Spoiler +
Guy is clearly trying.. He starts some early pressure on Sul who got lots of town reads early, this also supports his current pressure on him.
On May 22 2015 21:33 disformation wrote:
Hey guys, glad more people are active now. Currently at work, so I am not at 100% capacity. Still found something I want to point out:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 11:34 Sulfurus wrote:
I also scum read Murray due to his weak and untrue accusation against Dis in post #191 which made me think Sick is town since he tried Bandwagoning on him but he has since rescinded his vote.

Which made me think "what did BM accuse me of? And when I looked at #191:
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On May 22 2015 10:25 Bill Murray wrote:
Disinformation the game so far has been people reacting to a post batsnacks has , premade,

Sicklucker is someone I want to see more from

The scum qt thing I agree with because I didn't realize it would have been open either considering town couldn't talk ......

Accusation where? There is also nothing else regarding me in his filter.
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On May 22 2015 13:07 Sulfurus wrote:
Unvote Breshke
##Vote: Bill Murray

I am actually astonished at how Murray can make so many posts with out providing anything of value on top of the fact that he has pushed every one of his agenda's in a scummy manner.


So... @Sulfurus:
Can you point out what you mean with accusation? If this was accusation thing was a mistake, how does that change your view on BM? Does his filter still look scummy enough to lynch him?


He gives evidence that he is reading other games to get meta reads or check stuff.
On May 22 2015 09:11 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 09:04 batsnacks wrote:
On May 22 2015 09:01 disformation wrote:
Uh. Didn't realize the Mafia QT would be open since 24h either. Otherwise I would have said something about his cheap read. xD
Still not seeing a lot to lynch sicklucker though. I kinda expected him to post "lol didn't read" stuff regardless of his alignment anyway. Though he was super eager to paint himself townie:

On May 22 2015 07:22 sicklucker wrote:
disinfo you gonna correctly read me town again?


Solid town read on Tictock for now. Asking all the questions I wish I had asked. xD
I agree that BM should explain his bunnies vote, if he is as serious as he claims.


You're probably going to hit a wall here because he is almost certainly as serious as he claims. He has fired his shot the ball is in our court now.

Fair enough. Still want his explanation for the vote. Or better yet: why I should support this wagon.
Btw I was browsing the Mafia Database for your games to see if you did that Iching reading stuff in other games. Was only able to find one game, where you did a similar reading at the start of the game. (assassination mafia). You were town that game. Also liked your reaction here:
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On May 22 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
@tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared.



And overall he has stuck with his gut and put pressure on the 27nb and has kept up interactions. His case on Sul is decent and since Sul hasn't given any response or anything else to go on Dis' vote makes sense.


Barakos jumps in the thread with a read and vote on Dis. I like his open and next few posts especially his questioning what BS actually got out of his Iching stuff. He drops off his views on SL, a hot topic this game. That's about all I see in his filter (it's short! you should check it out), will be on the lookout for more from him.

Sulfurus made a nice opening post, jumped right into the game giving opinions and reads. Since then he's been gone... Basically just not enough to go on here, I could easily start scum reading him.

I initially liked 27ninja[/red]bunnies[/red] both for the opening posts and her reaction to Dis' push (the first one). Then this post happens and it's all downhill. I liked the stuff about BF, thought it was solid... but how does that lead her to voting Dis? Like there is a bunch of discussion about it yet somehow 27nb determines that this association is grounds to move Dis from being town to her top Scum. How do you focus so hard on Dis because of an association with BF while ignoring BF?

Bill Murray I could easily vote for the guy but I think we have better options. It has been mentioned several times that his play is erratic and often gets himself lynched. I'm not happy about how much the guy is lurking, and that will need to change especially since we know he is around.
On May 23 2015 09:11 Bill Murray wrote:
im home and i have my computer set up at my new house
score


Breshke I wasn't sure about him early on but I see town motivations for his early push. His vote of Dis is a bit odd, was a quick sheep on Barakos, and then he never really explains why he drops it too well. I like that he has kept up some pressure on SL and am glad to see he's expanded his thoughts on more people. He might be more null than I'm giving him credit for, but I've liked the directions he's been taking.

Almost done, and we get to sicklucker. I've been trying to keep an open mind about his play style and not scum his easily but I can't deny that I see scum in his play. I made this point early on about SL's play. What's really bugging me now about him is that he's really non-committal. He's mentioning people he'd like to vote but doesn't seem bothered to actually do that.

Look at the series of posts he makes starting here. This is after he was pressured for not really doing much. In this series of posts SL is able to bold several peoples names and manages to double the number of people he'd lynch. Then he acts like he's proven some point. To top that off he starts OMGUS tunneling BS in response to an obvious troll vote. It seems to me that this SL is more desperate to save his own skin than lynching people. I def don't know SL well, but itsn't town!SL far more likely to respond to BS sudden vote with something like "Nope, still town" or "Wrong, you should join me on this Dis vote though"?

I also don't get why SL was so willing to vote Dis before BS distracted him. This is his first mention of Dis being a good vote.
On May 23 2015 06:01 sicklucker wrote:
vote count? anyone voting disinfo? I might

disinfo can you list your read. I have no idea what your reads are and you posted alot not a good sign

Then after seeing Dis' reads said something about rereading Barakos and drops it. Only to suddenly start going after Dis a page or so later, never having mentioned Barakos again.


SL has done a few things I like and they are the only things keeping me from voting SL atm. He makes some decent posts here
On May 22 2015 17:27 sicklucker wrote:
Like rels townread on barokos is given so easy and he posted like 6 minutes before he posted that huge list post.

So were to believe he wrote that in 6 minutes or was nonstop pressing f5 to see if anyone posts as he made his list post?

Potentially planned their stock as potential teammates went up

On May 22 2015 17:28 sicklucker wrote:
Rels voting a 0 poster is -ev. Better to vote someone you slightly suspect then a 0 poster that might be replaced or modkilled.

Dont be afraid now


Lastly batsnacks. Sorry I don't have great reasoning here, his train of thought just makes a lot of sense to me. I get a lot of the motives behind his actions. I dislike how strongly he states some reads based off rather little, but even those posts have reasoning I like. Maybe I'm caught up in my initial read of the guy, but no way and I lynching his anytime soon.

Probably not getting too much more from me till near EoD as I need to sleep and then have an early shift. I'll be keeping an eye on things and am fairly willing to shift my vote onto any of my scum reads atm. I do like the voting variety we have right now, but I'm nervous since right now things could go a number of ways and I'd really like our first train to hit scum.
I can take that responsibility.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
May 23 2015 09:34 GMT
#520
I support the Rel being a townie thought.
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