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On December 05 2013 04:14 Whitewing wrote:


Howdy! >_>

I've been around, just not this subforum.

Read a few games every once in a while, was just way too negative for my tastes. I didn't feel like noobing it up and getting bitched at.

On December 05 2013 05:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
Honestly mods should just show no mercy. you get one warning/slip up post and then the second time you are gone. Even though hogwarts mafia was pretty meh in turns of gameplay, it showed how modding should be done to some degree. You can't just let the game run rampant or it is deemed acceptable. Any other part of teamliquid most of this stuff is auto-ban, let's set the same precedent here.

On December 05 2013 06:50 marvellosity wrote:
I think a pretty firm warning when things look like they're going south should mostly do the trick.

On December 05 2013 07:51 Mid or Feed wrote:

Yes and no, that may solve the issue at the time in that specific game, but it doesn't solve the overall wider issue.
I can name 4-5 players who have been actively discouraged from playing on TL mafia because of this kind of thing, and a warning in every game when (because it is inevitable) it happens and possible modkills does nothing.

On December 05 2013 07:51 kitaman27 wrote:
From my experience, if you're bothered by the words tone that someone uses, simply reply to the post letting them know that you are bothered by it and move on. Tell someone that you're upset or having a bad day and I think most people are decent enough to understand. If they continue, then request host intervention privately and take a break from the thread to avoid confrontation.

I don't recall ever being personally attacked in 40+ games, so if you treat others with respect, I don't think it really ever becomes an issue.



Technically, I think that rule applies to all games already.

On December 05 2013 08:53 Mid or Feed wrote:
Jeez statement retracted I guess. I've never seen you do any of that lol.

On December 05 2013 08:50 kitaman27 wrote:


Wave, that statement offends me! Please take it back.

Allow me to provide a list of counter-examples, which I've managed to do without ever being personally attacked:

Fake claimed that a detective contacted me to get a player lynched.
Fake claimed detective to get a player lynched.
Claimed detective at lylo, but refused to reveal my check for the first 40 hours, frusterating the other town members to the point that they voted without me in an instant majority setup.
As a compulsive town vig, shot a player that the town unanimously agreed was town not once, but twice, forcing the town roleblocker to stop me twice.
Lynched a player that I thought was town as town at LYLO (although still playing towards my win condition)
Targeted myself with kp as mafia (Again still playing towards my win condtion)
Gave a mafia scumbuddy bonus objectives to accomplish to the annoyance of another
Taunted the thread to the point where I was day vig'd three times in the same cycle
Backstabbed a third party player simply because I didn't want to work with them
Bussed a scum buddy against their wishes at LYLO
Forgotten to submit a night action
Claimed mafia to the rival mafia faction
Gone afk for extended periods of time without warning
Refused to vote with town because I was being incredibly stubborn
Threw a game away because I didn't know it was possible for third party players to exist
Fake claimed bomberman for personal amusement
Accidentally killed the same player by collateral damage two games in a row

On December 05 2013 05:23 Tunkeg wrote:
I think GM is spot on here.

An interesting “project” though would be to run a series of “nice-guy” mafia where the same players agrees to play a set number of games together with some predetermined rules on how to behave. For instance a rule could be: you are not allowed to call anyone dumb, stupid or bad, but will have to use some sort of diplomacy to express your feelings. So instead of writing: “If you believe I am scum you are either bad or scum, your arguments sucks big time and everything you write is illogical” you will have to come up with something like: “You and me probably disagree about what makes someone scum or not, I especially disagree with your argument 1, 2 and 4, because of a, b, c”. It might not be a great example, and yeah it might be a bit too much carebear but at least it doesn’t lay the groundworks for some heavy shitslinging and a poisonous environment.