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On December 11 2013 02:52 marvellosity wrote:
I hate silent nights, for the large reason that it leaves me unable to comment on a flip and what it means before my fairly likely upcoming death.

If people seriously wanted to try it, then

this looks like a reasonable sort of compromise.

I just get itchy when I can't post :p

On December 11 2013 03:02 Kurumi wrote:
Just make people play for their wincon once again.

On December 11 2013 03:06 Blazinghand wrote:


hey, hey, settle down buddy, let's not get too crazy with these new ideas here

On December 11 2013 02:31 Blazinghand wrote:
I would not include any such "last will" rule in my silent night games, though I see why they'd be attractive. Since I usually only run silent night in IML games it's not like town doesn't already have a systematic advantage. I feel comfortable taking away the last will in that situation. I also think the whole idea of posting last-second reads before the flip is kind of janky anyways. I strongly prefer the last hour of the night to either be "you can change your actions but can't post" or "you can post but can't change your actions"-- either way gets rid of the insanity of trying to post as close as possible to the day post.

On December 11 2013 03:09 Kurumi wrote:

I am just repeating what BC said, because the discussion drifted on the spam topic, while you can't beat spam in any meaningful way besides making people to play how they should, instead of introducing arbitrary rules.

On December 11 2013 03:34 Mid or Feed wrote:

And how exactly do you 'make' people play how they should?

On December 11 2013 05:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Anyone caught actively playing against their win con is auto modkilled / banned. Obviously this is going to be subjective to the mods but seriously. Watching people go into a game and troll to shit while not posting anything meaningful is insanely frustrating.

This is coming from a guy who has watched players make justifications that townies are allowed to be "anti town". If anyone in the town is repeatedly "anti town" or however people want to justify it they die. A town members job is to get scum lynched and make it obvious that they are town and thus shouldnt be lynched. People if they join a game should be trying. There are other people who might or would have made better use of your slot if all your going to do is lurk. Don't have the time required to play in a game? don't join.


Seriously, spam isn't that much of an issue. Even skimming a thread you can spot posts that feel wrong and you can filter the player. Its incredibly easy to still play a game with a ton of spam. Is it frustrating to do? Yes, but its doable. No one wants to play with people who don't play to their win conditions.

On December 11 2013 05:10 Mid or Feed wrote:

This is probably the sentiment I can get most behind. Problem is unless there is some guideline or new ruleset laid down, that's all going to be very subjective and some people are going to find themselves modkilled in certain games and not in others. It's part of the reason hosts in general are so lax towards what they let slide in the first place---it's very hard to lay down the law when a lesser precedent has been set and you have to fight/argue with people every time you make a call.

Can we have some sort of extraneous 'signup list' for people who acknowledge that they will always try when playing a game and always play towards their wincons? I mean....I could probably make such a list myself after playing with almost everyone here, but then of course you run into the inability to fill games....
I'm only half serious about the above.

On December 11 2013 03:02 Kurumi wrote:
Just make people play for their wincon once again.

On December 11 2013 07:38 Promethelax wrote:


I don't think you have a leg to stand on there kuru.

On December 11 2013 09:41 Kurumi wrote:

Yeah, sadly, despite my playstyle I have always tried to solve the game. Did I make meaningless posts? Yes I did. Did I tunnel people? Yes, I did. Did I care about the games I were in? Abso-fucking-lutely, wouldn't flip on Bugs or Layabout if I did not care. I worked on my playstyle as seen in my smurf game as The Milkman, where I was shot by a scum dayvig day two. I am not the best mafia player ever, hell I think my scum game is awful and I should be shamed for it everytime someone comes up with a filter of that.

On December 11 2013 05:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Seriously, spam isn't that much of an issue. Even skimming a thread you can spot posts that feel wrong and you can filter the player. Its incredibly easy to still play a game with a ton of spam. Is it frustrating to do? Yes, but its doable. No one wants to play with people who don't play to their win conditions.

On December 16 2013 23:21 kushm4sta wrote:


But it says in almost every OP you have to read the WHOLE thread.

In actuality there is no problem with current games. This thread is just a giant ineffectual circle jerk, which is fine.
Here's how I would do it if I were hosting. first time someone does something I deem inappropriate, they get a warning. second time, they get a modkill. What is so hard about that??

On December 16 2013 23:24 Aquanim wrote:

I dunno about you but if I did that I'd be handing out a whole lot of modkills - which is hardly good for the game.

On December 16 2013 23:44 kushm4sta wrote:


your game might get ruined, but all those people who were modkilled will have to sit out 1 game, so that will teach them manners and the future games will be better.