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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 05 2013 16:18 GMT
#3561
On October 06 2013 01:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck.


pandain did the same thing with palmar.

How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements.
My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but:

You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday.
You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum

You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town

Narp.

Yeah I wouldn't be so quick to narp.
I KNOW one of those 5 is town, and I strongly suspect two more of them are. If Vayne is also town where does that put the final scum members if only Oats is scum on that list?

As far as pushing goes, hey remember when we said the scumtams probably wouldn't be bussing this game? (Or at least I thought so?)
That's been proven wrong.
SnB posted that Palmar was scum. SnB asked people to vote him. Yeah, it's some bussing, but he never actually got Palmar lynched, and he didn't super push it.

Can you look me in the belly button and tell me that you think SnB's read and push on Palmar are equivalent to my read and push on Palmar?
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 05 2013 16:22 GMT
#3562
On October 06 2013 01:18 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 01:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck.


pandain did the same thing with palmar.

How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements.
My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but:

You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday.
You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum

You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town

Narp.

Yeah I wouldn't be so quick to narp.
I KNOW one of those 5 is town, and I strongly suspect two more of them are. If Vayne is also town where does that put the final scum members if only Oats is scum on that list?

As far as pushing goes, hey remember when we said the scumtams probably wouldn't be bussing this game? (Or at least I thought so?)
That's been proven wrong.
SnB posted that Palmar was scum. SnB asked people to vote him. Yeah, it's some bussing, but he never actually got Palmar lynched, and he didn't super push it.

Can you look me in the belly button and tell me that you think SnB's read and push on Palmar are equivalent to my read and push on Palmar?

Doesn't matter, a bus is a bus. SnB's push was pretty decent for what it was. It had me fooled into an early townread on him.

On October 06 2013 01:17 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 01:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck.


pandain did the same thing with palmar.

How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements.
My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but:

You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday.
You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum

You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town

Narp.


you're suggesting that any of those things matter. Palmar was on the other scumteam how is that relevant? Defending a modkill makes you look bad, not good. I just made a giant post on how pandain loves to "save townies" as scum.

and yes I think everyone is town there except WoS/oats so I suppose I have one wrong. dunno if it's you or s0lstice though.
Palmar being on the other scumteam still relevant. Scum needs EVERYONE dead. But they'd really really like to keep the other scumteam alive, that's a bonus 1 KP. Game is balanced around 2 scumteams, and the moment 1 is gone, the other scumteam has a difficult time. (Hopefully!). I don't, and this is a thought I should back up by looking at yesterday and seeing who else was kinda iffy on Palmar, think that Scumteam Not Palmar/SnB really wants to lynch Palmar over a townie.

And in my head, Scumteam B KNOWS Palmar is scum, because he's not hunting them at all and he's doing nothing. They could tell all game whether he was actually pressuring any of them or not.

You may have posted all about how pandain loves to save townies as scum. I don't. If I'm scum, I generally like me some dead townies. And it's not about "saving a townie." It's about "saving a townie AND lynching scum." There's a huge difference between being able to save Townie A and lynch Townie B vs saving a townie AND lynching scum. One gets you a little cred with someone, makes you look nice when Townie A flips. The other is ACTIVELY putting yourself in a less-favorable position numerically on hopes that the cred makes up for it.

So what about me ACTIVELY putting myself in a horrible position if I knew how FT was going to flip?

Also I really want to discuss my townread on solstice but I can't do so nicely without revealing why I think so, and if I do I won't be able to use that towntell anymore. VA why do you think solstice is scum specifically?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 05 2013 16:27 GMT
#3563
On October 06 2013 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 01:18 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck.


pandain did the same thing with palmar.

How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements.
My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but:

You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday.
You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum

You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town

Narp.

Yeah I wouldn't be so quick to narp.
I KNOW one of those 5 is town, and I strongly suspect two more of them are. If Vayne is also town where does that put the final scum members if only Oats is scum on that list?

As far as pushing goes, hey remember when we said the scumtams probably wouldn't be bussing this game? (Or at least I thought so?)
That's been proven wrong.
SnB posted that Palmar was scum. SnB asked people to vote him. Yeah, it's some bussing, but he never actually got Palmar lynched, and he didn't super push it.

Can you look me in the belly button and tell me that you think SnB's read and push on Palmar are equivalent to my read and push on Palmar?

Doesn't matter, a bus is a bus. SnB's push was pretty decent for what it was. It had me fooled into an early townread on him.

Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 01:17 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck.


pandain did the same thing with palmar.

How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements.
My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but:

You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday.
You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum

You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town

Narp.


you're suggesting that any of those things matter. Palmar was on the other scumteam how is that relevant? Defending a modkill makes you look bad, not good. I just made a giant post on how pandain loves to "save townies" as scum.

and yes I think everyone is town there except WoS/oats so I suppose I have one wrong. dunno if it's you or s0lstice though.
Palmar being on the other scumteam still relevant. Scum needs EVERYONE dead. But they'd really really like to keep the other scumteam alive, that's a bonus 1 KP. Game is balanced around 2 scumteams, and the moment 1 is gone, the other scumteam has a difficult time. (Hopefully!). I don't, and this is a thought I should back up by looking at yesterday and seeing who else was kinda iffy on Palmar, think that Scumteam Not Palmar/SnB really wants to lynch Palmar over a townie.

And in my head, Scumteam B KNOWS Palmar is scum, because he's not hunting them at all and he's doing nothing. They could tell all game whether he was actually pressuring any of them or not.

You may have posted all about how pandain loves to save townies as scum. I don't. If I'm scum, I generally like me some dead townies. And it's not about "saving a townie." It's about "saving a townie AND lynching scum." There's a huge difference between being able to save Townie A and lynch Townie B vs saving a townie AND lynching scum. One gets you a little cred with someone, makes you look nice when Townie A flips. The other is ACTIVELY putting yourself in a less-favorable position numerically on hopes that the cred makes up for it.

So what about me ACTIVELY putting myself in a horrible position if I knew how FT was going to flip?

Also I really want to discuss my townread on solstice but I can't do so nicely without revealing why I think so, and if I do I won't be able to use that towntell anymore. VA why do you think solstice is scum specifically?
It 6000% DOES matter. "My scumbuddy is scum" and "My scumbuddy is scum and we should LYNCH HIM WHY AREN'T YOU LYNCHING HIM DON'T LYNCH OTHER GUY LYNCH MY SCUMBUDDY" are two different things. And WoS knows this.

Your D3 isn't applicable there. VA says pandain loves to save townies as scum. Actually, what I wrote doesn't apply to pandain as much so I'm going to drop that.

But that bit doesn't apply to you. You didn't try and save a townie and vote mafia. You tried to lynch a townie, then maybe save a townie and lynch someone else but not palmar. We don't know yet what your alternate choice will flipz.
Fe fi fo fum.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 05 2013 16:33 GMT
#3564
On October 06 2013 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 01:18 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck.


pandain did the same thing with palmar.

How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements.
My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but:

You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday.
You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum

You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town

Narp.

Yeah I wouldn't be so quick to narp.
I KNOW one of those 5 is town, and I strongly suspect two more of them are. If Vayne is also town where does that put the final scum members if only Oats is scum on that list?

As far as pushing goes, hey remember when we said the scumtams probably wouldn't be bussing this game? (Or at least I thought so?)
That's been proven wrong.
SnB posted that Palmar was scum. SnB asked people to vote him. Yeah, it's some bussing, but he never actually got Palmar lynched, and he didn't super push it.

Can you look me in the belly button and tell me that you think SnB's read and push on Palmar are equivalent to my read and push on Palmar?

Doesn't matter, a bus is a bus. SnB's push was pretty decent for what it was. It had me fooled into an early townread on him.

Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 01:17 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck.


pandain did the same thing with palmar.

How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements.
My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but:

You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday.
You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum

You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town

Narp.


you're suggesting that any of those things matter. Palmar was on the other scumteam how is that relevant? Defending a modkill makes you look bad, not good. I just made a giant post on how pandain loves to "save townies" as scum.

and yes I think everyone is town there except WoS/oats so I suppose I have one wrong. dunno if it's you or s0lstice though.
Palmar being on the other scumteam still relevant. Scum needs EVERYONE dead. But they'd really really like to keep the other scumteam alive, that's a bonus 1 KP. Game is balanced around 2 scumteams, and the moment 1 is gone, the other scumteam has a difficult time. (Hopefully!). I don't, and this is a thought I should back up by looking at yesterday and seeing who else was kinda iffy on Palmar, think that Scumteam Not Palmar/SnB really wants to lynch Palmar over a townie.

And in my head, Scumteam B KNOWS Palmar is scum, because he's not hunting them at all and he's doing nothing. They could tell all game whether he was actually pressuring any of them or not.

You may have posted all about how pandain loves to save townies as scum. I don't. If I'm scum, I generally like me some dead townies. And it's not about "saving a townie." It's about "saving a townie AND lynching scum." There's a huge difference between being able to save Townie A and lynch Townie B vs saving a townie AND lynching scum. One gets you a little cred with someone, makes you look nice when Townie A flips. The other is ACTIVELY putting yourself in a less-favorable position numerically on hopes that the cred makes up for it.

So what about me ACTIVELY putting myself in a horrible position if I knew how FT was going to flip?

Also I really want to discuss my townread on solstice but I can't do so nicely without revealing why I think so, and if I do I won't be able to use that towntell anymore. VA why do you think solstice is scum specifically?


I actually don't think he's scum as of now, Im just throwing out scumteams that make sense to me in my head, you can ignore it if you want. It would show why pandain is being defended by austin, austin is specifically zoned in on s0lstice as a lurker when there are plenty of others, and why s0lstice really hasn't an impact on the game. It makes sense to me in my head but I don't think its necessarily correct.

I don't like austin's post about one team knowing that palmar is scum, that doesn't sit well with me and is shoddy reasoning. You can't KNOW anyone is scum until they flip. bad austin, bad.
I come in for the scraps
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 05 2013 16:34 GMT
#3565
On October 06 2013 01:27 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:18 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck.


pandain did the same thing with palmar.

How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements.
My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but:

You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday.
You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum

You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town

Narp.

Yeah I wouldn't be so quick to narp.
I KNOW one of those 5 is town, and I strongly suspect two more of them are. If Vayne is also town where does that put the final scum members if only Oats is scum on that list?

As far as pushing goes, hey remember when we said the scumtams probably wouldn't be bussing this game? (Or at least I thought so?)
That's been proven wrong.
SnB posted that Palmar was scum. SnB asked people to vote him. Yeah, it's some bussing, but he never actually got Palmar lynched, and he didn't super push it.

Can you look me in the belly button and tell me that you think SnB's read and push on Palmar are equivalent to my read and push on Palmar?

Doesn't matter, a bus is a bus. SnB's push was pretty decent for what it was. It had me fooled into an early townread on him.

On October 06 2013 01:17 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck.


pandain did the same thing with palmar.

How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements.
My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but:

You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday.
You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum

You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town

Narp.


you're suggesting that any of those things matter. Palmar was on the other scumteam how is that relevant? Defending a modkill makes you look bad, not good. I just made a giant post on how pandain loves to "save townies" as scum.

and yes I think everyone is town there except WoS/oats so I suppose I have one wrong. dunno if it's you or s0lstice though.
Palmar being on the other scumteam still relevant. Scum needs EVERYONE dead. But they'd really really like to keep the other scumteam alive, that's a bonus 1 KP. Game is balanced around 2 scumteams, and the moment 1 is gone, the other scumteam has a difficult time. (Hopefully!). I don't, and this is a thought I should back up by looking at yesterday and seeing who else was kinda iffy on Palmar, think that Scumteam Not Palmar/SnB really wants to lynch Palmar over a townie.

And in my head, Scumteam B KNOWS Palmar is scum, because he's not hunting them at all and he's doing nothing. They could tell all game whether he was actually pressuring any of them or not.

You may have posted all about how pandain loves to save townies as scum. I don't. If I'm scum, I generally like me some dead townies. And it's not about "saving a townie." It's about "saving a townie AND lynching scum." There's a huge difference between being able to save Townie A and lynch Townie B vs saving a townie AND lynching scum. One gets you a little cred with someone, makes you look nice when Townie A flips. The other is ACTIVELY putting yourself in a less-favorable position numerically on hopes that the cred makes up for it.

So what about me ACTIVELY putting myself in a horrible position if I knew how FT was going to flip?

Also I really want to discuss my townread on solstice but I can't do so nicely without revealing why I think so, and if I do I won't be able to use that towntell anymore. VA why do you think solstice is scum specifically?
It 6000% DOES matter. "My scumbuddy is scum" and "My scumbuddy is scum and we should LYNCH HIM WHY AREN'T YOU LYNCHING HIM DON'T LYNCH OTHER GUY LYNCH MY SCUMBUDDY" are two different things. And WoS knows this.

Your D3 isn't applicable there. VA says pandain loves to save townies as scum. Actually, what I wrote doesn't apply to pandain as much so I'm going to drop that.

But that bit doesn't apply to you. You didn't try and save a townie and vote mafia. You tried to lynch a townie, then maybe save a townie and lynch someone else but not palmar. We don't know yet what your alternate choice will flipz.

You really like to conveniently ignore the obvious, which is that it is fucking retarded scumplay to tunnel a towny 2 days that I KNOW will flip.

And no, I'm not so convinced that it is different at all. People push lynches in different ways.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 05 2013 16:37 GMT
#3566
On October 06 2013 01:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:18 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck.


pandain did the same thing with palmar.

How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements.
My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but:

You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday.
You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum

You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town

Narp.

Yeah I wouldn't be so quick to narp.
I KNOW one of those 5 is town, and I strongly suspect two more of them are. If Vayne is also town where does that put the final scum members if only Oats is scum on that list?

As far as pushing goes, hey remember when we said the scumtams probably wouldn't be bussing this game? (Or at least I thought so?)
That's been proven wrong.
SnB posted that Palmar was scum. SnB asked people to vote him. Yeah, it's some bussing, but he never actually got Palmar lynched, and he didn't super push it.

Can you look me in the belly button and tell me that you think SnB's read and push on Palmar are equivalent to my read and push on Palmar?

Doesn't matter, a bus is a bus. SnB's push was pretty decent for what it was. It had me fooled into an early townread on him.

On October 06 2013 01:17 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck.


pandain did the same thing with palmar.

How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements.
My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but:

You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday.
You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum

You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town

Narp.


you're suggesting that any of those things matter. Palmar was on the other scumteam how is that relevant? Defending a modkill makes you look bad, not good. I just made a giant post on how pandain loves to "save townies" as scum.

and yes I think everyone is town there except WoS/oats so I suppose I have one wrong. dunno if it's you or s0lstice though.
Palmar being on the other scumteam still relevant. Scum needs EVERYONE dead. But they'd really really like to keep the other scumteam alive, that's a bonus 1 KP. Game is balanced around 2 scumteams, and the moment 1 is gone, the other scumteam has a difficult time. (Hopefully!). I don't, and this is a thought I should back up by looking at yesterday and seeing who else was kinda iffy on Palmar, think that Scumteam Not Palmar/SnB really wants to lynch Palmar over a townie.

And in my head, Scumteam B KNOWS Palmar is scum, because he's not hunting them at all and he's doing nothing. They could tell all game whether he was actually pressuring any of them or not.

You may have posted all about how pandain loves to save townies as scum. I don't. If I'm scum, I generally like me some dead townies. And it's not about "saving a townie." It's about "saving a townie AND lynching scum." There's a huge difference between being able to save Townie A and lynch Townie B vs saving a townie AND lynching scum. One gets you a little cred with someone, makes you look nice when Townie A flips. The other is ACTIVELY putting yourself in a less-favorable position numerically on hopes that the cred makes up for it.

So what about me ACTIVELY putting myself in a horrible position if I knew how FT was going to flip?

Also I really want to discuss my townread on solstice but I can't do so nicely without revealing why I think so, and if I do I won't be able to use that towntell anymore. VA why do you think solstice is scum specifically?


I actually don't think he's scum as of now, Im just throwing out scumteams that make sense to me in my head, you can ignore it if you want. It would show why pandain is being defended by austin, austin is specifically zoned in on s0lstice as a lurker when there are plenty of others, and why s0lstice really hasn't an impact on the game. It makes sense to me in my head but I don't think its necessarily correct.

I don't like austin's post about one team knowing that palmar is scum, that doesn't sit well with me and is shoddy reasoning. You can't KNOW anyone is scum until they flip. bad austin, bad.
And yet we've got a couple folks saying they KNOW x or y is town.

I think that if you look from the outside, if you're a scumteam and you see Palmar not doing anything D2 and D3, and not attacking anyone on your team, possibly just always saying he hasn't read them or blah blah, you can....INTUIT STRONGLY or whatever other phrase you'd prefer (yes, know is a slight exaggeration) that Palmar is on the other scum team.

You both know that he's not trying AND when he posts lists your team is off em. Given that info, you SHOULD be assuming he's other scumteam. Heck, you should be assuming he's scum and you know he's not on your team, the fact that he might be avoiding attacking your team is cherry.
Fe fi fo fum.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 05 2013 16:37 GMT
#3567
On October 06 2013 01:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 01:27 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:18 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck.


pandain did the same thing with palmar.

How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements.
My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but:

You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday.
You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum

You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town

Narp.

Yeah I wouldn't be so quick to narp.
I KNOW one of those 5 is town, and I strongly suspect two more of them are. If Vayne is also town where does that put the final scum members if only Oats is scum on that list?

As far as pushing goes, hey remember when we said the scumtams probably wouldn't be bussing this game? (Or at least I thought so?)
That's been proven wrong.
SnB posted that Palmar was scum. SnB asked people to vote him. Yeah, it's some bussing, but he never actually got Palmar lynched, and he didn't super push it.

Can you look me in the belly button and tell me that you think SnB's read and push on Palmar are equivalent to my read and push on Palmar?

Doesn't matter, a bus is a bus. SnB's push was pretty decent for what it was. It had me fooled into an early townread on him.

On October 06 2013 01:17 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck.


pandain did the same thing with palmar.

How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements.
My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but:

You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday.
You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum

You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town

Narp.


you're suggesting that any of those things matter. Palmar was on the other scumteam how is that relevant? Defending a modkill makes you look bad, not good. I just made a giant post on how pandain loves to "save townies" as scum.

and yes I think everyone is town there except WoS/oats so I suppose I have one wrong. dunno if it's you or s0lstice though.
Palmar being on the other scumteam still relevant. Scum needs EVERYONE dead. But they'd really really like to keep the other scumteam alive, that's a bonus 1 KP. Game is balanced around 2 scumteams, and the moment 1 is gone, the other scumteam has a difficult time. (Hopefully!). I don't, and this is a thought I should back up by looking at yesterday and seeing who else was kinda iffy on Palmar, think that Scumteam Not Palmar/SnB really wants to lynch Palmar over a townie.

And in my head, Scumteam B KNOWS Palmar is scum, because he's not hunting them at all and he's doing nothing. They could tell all game whether he was actually pressuring any of them or not.

You may have posted all about how pandain loves to save townies as scum. I don't. If I'm scum, I generally like me some dead townies. And it's not about "saving a townie." It's about "saving a townie AND lynching scum." There's a huge difference between being able to save Townie A and lynch Townie B vs saving a townie AND lynching scum. One gets you a little cred with someone, makes you look nice when Townie A flips. The other is ACTIVELY putting yourself in a less-favorable position numerically on hopes that the cred makes up for it.

So what about me ACTIVELY putting myself in a horrible position if I knew how FT was going to flip?

Also I really want to discuss my townread on solstice but I can't do so nicely without revealing why I think so, and if I do I won't be able to use that towntell anymore. VA why do you think solstice is scum specifically?
It 6000% DOES matter. "My scumbuddy is scum" and "My scumbuddy is scum and we should LYNCH HIM WHY AREN'T YOU LYNCHING HIM DON'T LYNCH OTHER GUY LYNCH MY SCUMBUDDY" are two different things. And WoS knows this.

Your D3 isn't applicable there. VA says pandain loves to save townies as scum. Actually, what I wrote doesn't apply to pandain as much so I'm going to drop that.

But that bit doesn't apply to you. You didn't try and save a townie and vote mafia. You tried to lynch a townie, then maybe save a townie and lynch someone else but not palmar. We don't know yet what your alternate choice will flipz.

You really like to conveniently ignore the obvious, which is that it is fucking retarded scumplay to tunnel a towny 2 days that I KNOW will flip.

And no, I'm not so convinced that it is different at all. People push lynches in different ways.

You know?
I'm starting to believe that you're scum precisely for this reason. You're better than that.
It would stand that this is exactly why you've held middling suspicion on me all game: you were setting me up for the mislynch way in advance when FT DID flip. The Palmar flip if you're on the other scumteam would have been the icing on the cake because you could try and associate.
The fact that you are absolutely convinced that I am scum and seem to conveniently ignore all evidence as to the contrary lately is extremely concerning.

VE I want to hear your thoughts on this whenever you get back.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 05 2013 16:40 GMT
#3568
On October 06 2013 01:37 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 01:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:18 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck.


pandain did the same thing with palmar.

How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements.
My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but:

You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday.
You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum

You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town

Narp.

Yeah I wouldn't be so quick to narp.
I KNOW one of those 5 is town, and I strongly suspect two more of them are. If Vayne is also town where does that put the final scum members if only Oats is scum on that list?

As far as pushing goes, hey remember when we said the scumtams probably wouldn't be bussing this game? (Or at least I thought so?)
That's been proven wrong.
SnB posted that Palmar was scum. SnB asked people to vote him. Yeah, it's some bussing, but he never actually got Palmar lynched, and he didn't super push it.

Can you look me in the belly button and tell me that you think SnB's read and push on Palmar are equivalent to my read and push on Palmar?

Doesn't matter, a bus is a bus. SnB's push was pretty decent for what it was. It had me fooled into an early townread on him.

On October 06 2013 01:17 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck.


pandain did the same thing with palmar.

How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements.
My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but:

You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday.
You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum

You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town

Narp.


you're suggesting that any of those things matter. Palmar was on the other scumteam how is that relevant? Defending a modkill makes you look bad, not good. I just made a giant post on how pandain loves to "save townies" as scum.

and yes I think everyone is town there except WoS/oats so I suppose I have one wrong. dunno if it's you or s0lstice though.
Palmar being on the other scumteam still relevant. Scum needs EVERYONE dead. But they'd really really like to keep the other scumteam alive, that's a bonus 1 KP. Game is balanced around 2 scumteams, and the moment 1 is gone, the other scumteam has a difficult time. (Hopefully!). I don't, and this is a thought I should back up by looking at yesterday and seeing who else was kinda iffy on Palmar, think that Scumteam Not Palmar/SnB really wants to lynch Palmar over a townie.

And in my head, Scumteam B KNOWS Palmar is scum, because he's not hunting them at all and he's doing nothing. They could tell all game whether he was actually pressuring any of them or not.

You may have posted all about how pandain loves to save townies as scum. I don't. If I'm scum, I generally like me some dead townies. And it's not about "saving a townie." It's about "saving a townie AND lynching scum." There's a huge difference between being able to save Townie A and lynch Townie B vs saving a townie AND lynching scum. One gets you a little cred with someone, makes you look nice when Townie A flips. The other is ACTIVELY putting yourself in a less-favorable position numerically on hopes that the cred makes up for it.

So what about me ACTIVELY putting myself in a horrible position if I knew how FT was going to flip?

Also I really want to discuss my townread on solstice but I can't do so nicely without revealing why I think so, and if I do I won't be able to use that towntell anymore. VA why do you think solstice is scum specifically?


I actually don't think he's scum as of now, Im just throwing out scumteams that make sense to me in my head, you can ignore it if you want. It would show why pandain is being defended by austin, austin is specifically zoned in on s0lstice as a lurker when there are plenty of others, and why s0lstice really hasn't an impact on the game. It makes sense to me in my head but I don't think its necessarily correct.

I don't like austin's post about one team knowing that palmar is scum, that doesn't sit well with me and is shoddy reasoning. You can't KNOW anyone is scum until they flip. bad austin, bad.
And yet we've got a couple folks saying they KNOW x or y is town.

I think that if you look from the outside, if you're a scumteam and you see Palmar not doing anything D2 and D3, and not attacking anyone on your team, possibly just always saying he hasn't read them or blah blah, you can....INTUIT STRONGLY or whatever other phrase you'd prefer (yes, know is a slight exaggeration) that Palmar is on the other scum team.

You both know that he's not trying AND when he posts lists your team is off em. Given that info, you SHOULD be assuming he's other scumteam. Heck, you should be assuming he's scum and you know he's not on your team, the fact that he might be avoiding attacking your team is cherry.

The only people we KNOW are Koshi/Rayn/VE and that's because we had no counterclaim. So technically no, we don't KNOW, but it's pretty fucking close, and it's well within the power of someone in this game to correct us if we are wrong.

You also can't predict how other people will interpret certain levels of play at all, so this is kind of a stupid argument. If you could predict that then wouldn't scumhunting be a shit ton less difficult in general?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 05 2013 16:41 GMT
#3569
lol Austin if you're scum and town wins, I'll give you town MVP, k?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 05 2013 16:42 GMT
#3570
On October 06 2013 01:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 01:37 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:18 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck.


pandain did the same thing with palmar.

How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements.
My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but:

You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday.
You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum

You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town

Narp.

Yeah I wouldn't be so quick to narp.
I KNOW one of those 5 is town, and I strongly suspect two more of them are. If Vayne is also town where does that put the final scum members if only Oats is scum on that list?

As far as pushing goes, hey remember when we said the scumtams probably wouldn't be bussing this game? (Or at least I thought so?)
That's been proven wrong.
SnB posted that Palmar was scum. SnB asked people to vote him. Yeah, it's some bussing, but he never actually got Palmar lynched, and he didn't super push it.

Can you look me in the belly button and tell me that you think SnB's read and push on Palmar are equivalent to my read and push on Palmar?

Doesn't matter, a bus is a bus. SnB's push was pretty decent for what it was. It had me fooled into an early townread on him.

On October 06 2013 01:17 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck.


pandain did the same thing with palmar.

How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements.
My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but:

You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday.
You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum

You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town

Narp.


you're suggesting that any of those things matter. Palmar was on the other scumteam how is that relevant? Defending a modkill makes you look bad, not good. I just made a giant post on how pandain loves to "save townies" as scum.

and yes I think everyone is town there except WoS/oats so I suppose I have one wrong. dunno if it's you or s0lstice though.
Palmar being on the other scumteam still relevant. Scum needs EVERYONE dead. But they'd really really like to keep the other scumteam alive, that's a bonus 1 KP. Game is balanced around 2 scumteams, and the moment 1 is gone, the other scumteam has a difficult time. (Hopefully!). I don't, and this is a thought I should back up by looking at yesterday and seeing who else was kinda iffy on Palmar, think that Scumteam Not Palmar/SnB really wants to lynch Palmar over a townie.

And in my head, Scumteam B KNOWS Palmar is scum, because he's not hunting them at all and he's doing nothing. They could tell all game whether he was actually pressuring any of them or not.

You may have posted all about how pandain loves to save townies as scum. I don't. If I'm scum, I generally like me some dead townies. And it's not about "saving a townie." It's about "saving a townie AND lynching scum." There's a huge difference between being able to save Townie A and lynch Townie B vs saving a townie AND lynching scum. One gets you a little cred with someone, makes you look nice when Townie A flips. The other is ACTIVELY putting yourself in a less-favorable position numerically on hopes that the cred makes up for it.

So what about me ACTIVELY putting myself in a horrible position if I knew how FT was going to flip?

Also I really want to discuss my townread on solstice but I can't do so nicely without revealing why I think so, and if I do I won't be able to use that towntell anymore. VA why do you think solstice is scum specifically?


I actually don't think he's scum as of now, Im just throwing out scumteams that make sense to me in my head, you can ignore it if you want. It would show why pandain is being defended by austin, austin is specifically zoned in on s0lstice as a lurker when there are plenty of others, and why s0lstice really hasn't an impact on the game. It makes sense to me in my head but I don't think its necessarily correct.

I don't like austin's post about one team knowing that palmar is scum, that doesn't sit well with me and is shoddy reasoning. You can't KNOW anyone is scum until they flip. bad austin, bad.
And yet we've got a couple folks saying they KNOW x or y is town.

I think that if you look from the outside, if you're a scumteam and you see Palmar not doing anything D2 and D3, and not attacking anyone on your team, possibly just always saying he hasn't read them or blah blah, you can....INTUIT STRONGLY or whatever other phrase you'd prefer (yes, know is a slight exaggeration) that Palmar is on the other scum team.

You both know that he's not trying AND when he posts lists your team is off em. Given that info, you SHOULD be assuming he's other scumteam. Heck, you should be assuming he's scum and you know he's not on your team, the fact that he might be avoiding attacking your team is cherry.

The only people we KNOW are Koshi/Rayn/VE and that's because we had no counterclaim. So technically no, we don't KNOW, but it's pretty fucking close, and it's well within the power of someone in this game to correct us if we are wrong.

You also can't predict how other people will interpret certain levels of play at all, so this is kind of a stupid argument. If you could predict that then wouldn't scumhunting be a shit ton less difficult in general?
We can argue about thist postgame if you're town. But I don't think it's a stupid argument and I DO think that each scumteam would be trying to figure out who the other team was, and that Palmar should have been on the non-Palmar team's list right up at the tippy top.
Fe fi fo fum.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 05 2013 16:43 GMT
#3571
Where the fuck did CC go?

I really want him to explain how quoting a bunch of stuff about Palmar = I am Palmar's scumbuddy.
Mainly because in all the Scumgames I play, I probably associate with my teammembers THE LEAST out of the whole thread. Not that MOST.

Interestingly enough, CC didnt pick up that my read kept flip-flopping and thats why I thought he would call me scummy for that whole quote spam nonsense. But he didnt.

I think its safe to say that CC is scum at this point, he has played with me in TONS of games and trying to lynch me by some vague associations? Time to give that shit up.

Wave is town
HI TOWNBUDDY!
No gg, No skill.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 05 2013 16:44 GMT
#3572
On October 06 2013 01:42 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 01:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:37 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:18 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck.


pandain did the same thing with palmar.

How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements.
My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but:

You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday.
You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum

You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town

Narp.

Yeah I wouldn't be so quick to narp.
I KNOW one of those 5 is town, and I strongly suspect two more of them are. If Vayne is also town where does that put the final scum members if only Oats is scum on that list?

As far as pushing goes, hey remember when we said the scumtams probably wouldn't be bussing this game? (Or at least I thought so?)
That's been proven wrong.
SnB posted that Palmar was scum. SnB asked people to vote him. Yeah, it's some bussing, but he never actually got Palmar lynched, and he didn't super push it.

Can you look me in the belly button and tell me that you think SnB's read and push on Palmar are equivalent to my read and push on Palmar?

Doesn't matter, a bus is a bus. SnB's push was pretty decent for what it was. It had me fooled into an early townread on him.

On October 06 2013 01:17 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:
On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck.


pandain did the same thing with palmar.

How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements.
My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but:

You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday.
You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum

You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town

Narp.


you're suggesting that any of those things matter. Palmar was on the other scumteam how is that relevant? Defending a modkill makes you look bad, not good. I just made a giant post on how pandain loves to "save townies" as scum.

and yes I think everyone is town there except WoS/oats so I suppose I have one wrong. dunno if it's you or s0lstice though.
Palmar being on the other scumteam still relevant. Scum needs EVERYONE dead. But they'd really really like to keep the other scumteam alive, that's a bonus 1 KP. Game is balanced around 2 scumteams, and the moment 1 is gone, the other scumteam has a difficult time. (Hopefully!). I don't, and this is a thought I should back up by looking at yesterday and seeing who else was kinda iffy on Palmar, think that Scumteam Not Palmar/SnB really wants to lynch Palmar over a townie.

And in my head, Scumteam B KNOWS Palmar is scum, because he's not hunting them at all and he's doing nothing. They could tell all game whether he was actually pressuring any of them or not.

You may have posted all about how pandain loves to save townies as scum. I don't. If I'm scum, I generally like me some dead townies. And it's not about "saving a townie." It's about "saving a townie AND lynching scum." There's a huge difference between being able to save Townie A and lynch Townie B vs saving a townie AND lynching scum. One gets you a little cred with someone, makes you look nice when Townie A flips. The other is ACTIVELY putting yourself in a less-favorable position numerically on hopes that the cred makes up for it.

So what about me ACTIVELY putting myself in a horrible position if I knew how FT was going to flip?

Also I really want to discuss my townread on solstice but I can't do so nicely without revealing why I think so, and if I do I won't be able to use that towntell anymore. VA why do you think solstice is scum specifically?


I actually don't think he's scum as of now, Im just throwing out scumteams that make sense to me in my head, you can ignore it if you want. It would show why pandain is being defended by austin, austin is specifically zoned in on s0lstice as a lurker when there are plenty of others, and why s0lstice really hasn't an impact on the game. It makes sense to me in my head but I don't think its necessarily correct.

I don't like austin's post about one team knowing that palmar is scum, that doesn't sit well with me and is shoddy reasoning. You can't KNOW anyone is scum until they flip. bad austin, bad.
And yet we've got a couple folks saying they KNOW x or y is town.

I think that if you look from the outside, if you're a scumteam and you see Palmar not doing anything D2 and D3, and not attacking anyone on your team, possibly just always saying he hasn't read them or blah blah, you can....INTUIT STRONGLY or whatever other phrase you'd prefer (yes, know is a slight exaggeration) that Palmar is on the other scum team.

You both know that he's not trying AND when he posts lists your team is off em. Given that info, you SHOULD be assuming he's other scumteam. Heck, you should be assuming he's scum and you know he's not on your team, the fact that he might be avoiding attacking your team is cherry.

The only people we KNOW are Koshi/Rayn/VE and that's because we had no counterclaim. So technically no, we don't KNOW, but it's pretty fucking close, and it's well within the power of someone in this game to correct us if we are wrong.

You also can't predict how other people will interpret certain levels of play at all, so this is kind of a stupid argument. If you could predict that then wouldn't scumhunting be a shit ton less difficult in general?
We can argue about thist postgame if you're town. But I don't think it's a stupid argument and I DO think that each scumteam would be trying to figure out who the other team was, and that Palmar should have been on the non-Palmar team's list right up at the tippy top.

I agree that scum would be attempting to figure out who is on the other team, but to assume that everyone was thinking how you think is a little bit ridiculous.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 05 2013 16:46 GMT
#3573
Ok so something about CR.

Palmar kept calling him the towniest town ever(Slight exaggeration).
What can you conclude from that Austin?
No gg, No skill.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 05 2013 16:46 GMT
#3574
yea oats needs to be lynched, I can actually understand his posts

On October 06 2013 01:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Where the fuck did CC go?

I really want him to explain how quoting a bunch of stuff about Palmar = I am Palmar's scumbuddy.
Mainly because in all the Scumgames I play, I probably associate with my teammembers THE LEAST out of the whole thread. Not that MOST.

Interestingly enough, CC didnt pick up that my read kept flip-flopping and thats why I thought he would call me scummy for that whole quote spam nonsense. But he didnt.

I think its safe to say that CC is scum at this point, he has played with me in TONS of games and trying to lynch me by some vague associations? Time to give that shit up.

Wave is town
HI TOWNBUDDY!



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I come in for the scraps
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 05 2013 16:47 GMT
#3575
I really think that gif is referring to my reaction of that post VA.
No gg, No skill.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 05 2013 16:52 GMT
#3576
On October 06 2013 01:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Where the fuck did CC go?

I really want him to explain how quoting a bunch of stuff about Palmar = I am Palmar's scumbuddy.
Mainly because in all the Scumgames I play, I probably associate with my teammembers THE LEAST out of the whole thread. Not that MOST.

Interestingly enough, CC didnt pick up that my read kept flip-flopping and thats why I thought he would call me scummy for that whole quote spam nonsense. But he didnt.

I think its safe to say that CC is scum at this point, he has played with me in TONS of games and trying to lynch me by some vague associations? Time to give that shit up.

Wave is town
HI TOWNBUDDY!

Little late to start puttin' in that effort buddy after you've been caught.
Appreciate the townread though!

On October 06 2013 01:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok so something about CR.

Palmar kept calling him the towniest town ever(Slight exaggeration).
What can you conclude from that Austin?

Can I answer this one though Oats? Please? Pretty please?
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 05 2013 16:53 GMT
#3577
On October 06 2013 01:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok so something about CR.

Palmar kept calling him the towniest town ever(Slight exaggeration).
What can you conclude from that Austin?
Oats. I still kind of sort of think you're town. Please do some super townie stuff or something if you're town.

I don't think we conclude anything off of that. IF WoS isn't the third member of that team, CR is a decent option, but honestly I read more into what CR wrote about Palmar than what Palmar wrote about CR.

Go look at CR's post D2 where he goes through the permutations of VA/Palmar/SnB/FT scumteams. He concludes overall that Palmar is scummy but the worst lynch for information-gathering reasons. THAT is something I like much more as a connection than what Palmar says about CR.
Fe fi fo fum.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 05 2013 16:53 GMT
#3578
Sure Wave.
Also MIND=BLOWN when you see my flip.
Promise you.
No gg, No skill.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
October 05 2013 16:53 GMT
#3579
yea austin I think I want to kill you

this thing you have going with Wave reeks bad
ATOBTTR
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 05 2013 16:54 GMT
#3580
IM TRYING TO DO TOWNIE STUFF. BUT WAVE IS BEING A HUGGEEEEE DICK AND NOT GIVING ME A TOWNREAD!!
:<
Go look at CR's post D2 where he goes through the permutations of VA/Palmar/SnB/FT scumteams. He concludes overall that Palmar is scummy but the worst lynch for information-gathering reasons. THAT is something I like much more as a connection than what Palmar says about CR.

Huh ok thats interesting. Although if he is scum, thats a HUGE waste of time.
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