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On December 06 2012 03:18 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2012 03:16 Hapahauli wrote:On December 06 2012 03:09 Acrofales wrote:On December 06 2012 03:07 Hapahauli wrote:On December 06 2012 03:03 Acrofales wrote:On December 06 2012 03:00 Keirathi wrote:
What was your secondary wincon? If I say that, it is ridiculously easy to guess my rolename. Is that a bad thing? I mean if you're fearful of another player killing you, certainly you claiming third party and being so overt about it would have ended with you dead already. Absolutely true. The fact that I took 0 damage for a few cycles despite claiming is making me less paranoid about there being someone wanting to kill me. However, if there are more SnB-like abilities out there, I prefer they hit other people than me. Call it a survivor mentality  Are you Ozzie? Magnus makes way more sense. His secondary would be to be included in a party or to outlast frog. Both of those make sense lore wise and have been accomplished.
I believe he said yesterday before the S&B lynch that his secondary wincon hadn't been activated yet. Dieno was already dead by then.
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@Kita:
How could you roleblock Toad while also shooting Drazerk (two nights in a row)?
How did you roleblock Drazerk on N7 when I got the report that my ability could not target Drazerk?
Unanswerable: why did Toad claim the roleblock on N3, but not on N4?
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On December 06 2012 03:18 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2012 03:16 Hapahauli wrote:On December 06 2012 03:09 Acrofales wrote:On December 06 2012 03:07 Hapahauli wrote:On December 06 2012 03:03 Acrofales wrote:On December 06 2012 03:00 Keirathi wrote:
What was your secondary wincon? If I say that, it is ridiculously easy to guess my rolename. Is that a bad thing? I mean if you're fearful of another player killing you, certainly you claiming third party and being so overt about it would have ended with you dead already. Absolutely true. The fact that I took 0 damage for a few cycles despite claiming is making me less paranoid about there being someone wanting to kill me. However, if there are more SnB-like abilities out there, I prefer they hit other people than me. Call it a survivor mentality Are you Ozzie? Magnus makes way more sense. His secondary would be to be included in a party or to outlast frog. Both of those make sense lore wise and have been accomplished.
Well all his spells backfiring doesn't make much sense with Magus lore-wise. In addition, I doubt his second win-con is to be included in a party, since he was resistant to the idea earlier and was only included in the randomly-generated one.
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The point of my claim was so you guys could use the claimed abilities when trying to solve the game, not so you can indulge in pointless speculating about my name, which will get you nowhere as I won't confirm or deny anything.
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Anyway, I hope someone heals me this cycle as I've taken a lot of damage
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No need to state the obvious
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I also hope that you'll eventually respond to my posts Syllo, as my sanity has taken quite a bit of damage addressing these things throughout the game:
On December 06 2012 01:47 Hapahauli wrote:
Syllo, can we take care of this "you being suspicious of me" thing right now? Because we have a situation where the last two flipped scum (SnB + VE) have both attempted to put heavy suspicion on me in their filters. Combined with the points I've made earlier (my actions regarding Toad in particular), how on earth do you not see that I'm town at this point?
None of the flipped scum have attempted to put significant suspicion on each other in the thread (save clear bussing attempts), and for some reason you think that this pattern was completely defied in my case.
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On December 06 2012 03:23 Acrofales wrote:
The point of my claim was so you guys could use the claimed abilities when trying to solve the game, not so you can indulge in pointless speculating about my name, which will get you nowhere as I won't confirm or deny anything.
Well in my mind, clearly no one is hunting you, so I have no idea why you aren't willing to claim. Hell we're curious dammit!
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On December 06 2012 02:43 Adam4167 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2012 02:41 austinmcc wrote:
Grabbing lunch, the two people who are particularly curious about the counterattack ability interest me.
I specifically did NOT counterattack adam even though I could have, and he's worried about how it interacts with scum KP.
Acro I just don't trust, but that's the ability. 300/x damage, where x is the number of players who most recently damaged me. I can't aim it, only know where it's headed if all the damage on me is claimed. Your damn right I want to know how it interacts with scum KP. Because if it doesn't interact with scum KP, its nigh on useless to a town player, but really handy for a scum player. How could you counterattack me in cycle 7 when I shot you after toads lynch in cycle 5?
I call it counterattack because that's basically what it does, but it doesn't require the same cycle, and it's not actually "Counterattack". If I use that ability, it just looks at the last point at which I was dealt damage, and then splits my damage between all players who dealt me damage at that point. Until I'm damaged otherwise, you'd be eating the full 300 if you're being truthful about being the sole source of damage on me that night, as I haven't been hit since then.
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On December 06 2012 03:23 Acrofales wrote:
The point of my claim was so you guys could use the claimed abilities when trying to solve the game, not so you can indulge in pointless speculating about my name, which will get you nowhere as I won't confirm or deny anything.
So the point was that you, who are almost certainly lying about AT LEAST one aspect of your role, could claim what you did, some/most of which you'd already claimed in thread.
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On December 06 2012 02:42 kitaman27 wrote:
I can account for the missing roleblocks.
I didn't claim it earlier because I felt there was little reason to at the time with the lynches already decided.
I couldn't rb night one, night two I was on nuke, three and four I was on toad, five and seven on cave, and six on VE.
Just because the roleblock on risk is accounted for, doesn't mean that he is clear. I've already brought up the over enthusiastic town read on sandroba day one and how he shows a contradiction in logic when defending GK for shooting Cave, yet providing a scum read on myself who also shot cave. The use of his role is silly from a town perspective and he provides very few opinions.
That being said...town having 3 roleblockers, compared to the single roleblocker flip from the scum team is quite strange...especially considering sandroba couldn't roleblock every cycle and there are so many blues the mafia has to deal with. We know Cave has a roleblocking ability that he claims is a jail. I have a town read on syllo and a slightly weaker town read on prom (mainly due to the strength of his role).
Cave, I'm quite disappointed that you decided to pass on the opportunity to provide us with 16 fake claims in the same post. You have a reputation to uphold! I guess we have oodles of claimed roleblocks, so it makes sense there would be so many in the game, but having 3 and a sometimes 4th town-side if Drazerk were to be town is...a lot.
The way they're different does match up to the claimed healing abilities though, as far as rb/tracker, the seed thing, what appears to be a claim of just "roleblocker" from you without restrictions. seems similar to heal vs. fire protect vs. shield vs. whatever else we have.
Why didn't you claim the risk roleblock earlier? Were you just withholding it or did you specifically want to make risk's claim look fake?
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Remember guys, each cycle you also vote for where to time travel to
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Risk.nuke ignoring me and my questions is getting incredibly tedious. I asked this like 5 cycles ago when there was no risk of anybody lynching risk. He didn't answer. I pressured him. No answer. I repeated my questions when he was clearly active in the thread. No answer. Why does risk not want to explain himself? Here goes for the umpteenth time:
+ Show Spoiler +On November 29 2012 00:44 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 21:40 risk.nuke wrote:On November 22 2012 21:14 Acrofales wrote:On November 22 2012 20:57 risk.nuke wrote:
Goodkarma, exclude oats from your mission team and you have my vote. Trust and something approaching praise coming from risk.nuke, how... unusual. Risk, what do you feel is wrong with Sandro and Syllo at the moment? I don't know what you are talking about Acro. As for Oats, He made a tunnelcase on clarity and when it didn't work he tried the yell higher approach. I also didn't like that he voted toad who's notoriously difficult to read but that is a lesser concern. My main problem with oats is he hasn't really done anything in actual terms to distinguish himself as town while he's playing one of the easier ways to play as scum. Furthermore I get the feeling of two sides of him. One calm and considerate and one yell as high as you can side. Right now I don't have an abundant of trust for syllogism and sandroba wants to send oats. I have townreads goodkarma and Djodref. Hrmmm. What was your town read of GK based on at this point? In fact, explain Djodref as well. So far, you have managed to say you didn't have a town read on Oats (which I agreed with at the time, so I didn't think too much into it, but suspicious minds would say you were trying to manipulate town off the party)... and you didn't trust Syllo, without any further explanation. You then throw a seemingly random town read on GK out there. That is what I meant with trust, btw. Your usual meta is to be aggressive and angry at everybody. Your friendliness towards GK feels strange. This is how you justify it a couple of hours later: Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 00:45 risk.nuke wrote:On November 23 2012 00:37 marvellosity wrote:On November 23 2012 00:34 risk.nuke wrote:On November 23 2012 00:19 Mementoss wrote:
Vote Count
Kitaman27 (4): Kitaman27, Promethelax,phagga, Toadesstern
Goodkarma (2): djodref, goodkarma
Sandroba (4): risk.nuke, Hopeless1der, Acrofales, kushm4sta
Dienosore (1): Dienosore
Syllogism (5): Oatsmaster, Marvellosity, Clarity_nl, iamperfection, TheChronicler
Players who have yet to vote (9): CaveJohnson, Hapahauli, Z-BosoN, strongandbig, BioSC, Keirathi, syllogism, Adam4167, sandroba
Remember that voting is mandatory.
All votes must be in by Thursday, Nov 22 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) I forgot to unvote. ##unvote: Sandroba
##Vote: goodkarma risk, what makes you feel so good about goodkarma? I like how he post. I feel I can follow his thoughts. I feel I need something more to justify this weak-ass vote on a weak-ass candidate. I am not understanding your thought process this game, which is somewhat unusual, because you're usually far more transparent. Then comes the whole Sandroba ordeal. There are two ways of reading this: a townie who think Sandroba might be scum, but isn't sure... and scum waiting for Sandro to give him any reasonable opportunity to not bus his scumbuddy. Not much more to say on this issue. However, this is interesting: Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 05:01 risk.nuke wrote:<snip> Chronicler I didn't like his initial plan in the terms of that I didn't agree with it. On the other hand "IF" he is town I don't feel the plan was beneficial for the mafiateam either so from that perspective I can see what he was going for. A lot of people make up their own plans because they like the sense of leadership. I don't think his candidacy plan is alignment revealing. I especially liked this post (clicky) from him, even more so in hindsight of syllos sucess. I am slightly leaning town on him. Post in question: Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 03:42 TheChronicler wrote:
I'm going to place my vote on syllo. Cave seems to be pushing syllo as someone who can't be elected because he's "taken himself out" when he's a very viable candidate. I'm driving to California, and won't be back in the thread for a good 12 hours. I will try to keep up with the thread on my phone, though. Just don't expect your questions to be answered until I get to my parents' place tonight. This was one of the posts that set alarm bells off in my mind (and I believe some other players' minds too). I am thus completely and utterly confused: why did this give you a town read on him? How the hell do you go from "Chronicler provides a bad excuse to drop his plan and sheep the majority" to "town read"? And here we have some more buttfuck terrible reasoning: Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 05:20 risk.nuke wrote:On November 24 2012 05:13 Djodref wrote:On November 24 2012 05:01 risk.nuke wrote:On November 24 2012 04:09 Djodref wrote:On November 24 2012 02:24 risk.nuke wrote:On November 24 2012 00:47 Djodref wrote:On November 24 2012 00:16 risk.nuke wrote:On November 23 2012 23:43 Djodref wrote:
I might have sounded angry but I honestly think that this sandroba wagon is pretty stupid. Nobody really brings an original argument and is sheeping syllo ">50% chance that sandro is mafia" and/or basically lynching a lurker with contributions.
It's the perfect situation for the mafia to mislynch sandro if he is town, not contribute, blend in. I don't like how this D2 starts at all.
For example, risk.nuke dropping in the thread and casting his vote against sandro with his "waiting for sandro to participate to switch my vote to ..." without even giving any alternatives. Fuck this kind of attitude !
FoS risk.nuke "without giving any alternatives"... Do you understand that bringing up alternatives would completely contradict the very reason I parked my vote on sandroba. The point was to build pressure to force him into activity. Saying, I'm parking my vote on sandroba but if he doesn't show up I'm going to vote this guy is just... dumb doesn't even suffice. @risk.nukeWell, obviously it didn't work because sandro is supposedly sleeping now. What do you plan to do now ? Play the waiting game. @risk.nukePlay the waiting game ? On November 21 2012 18:34 risk.nuke wrote:
*snip*
I'm not sure how missions are going to work but to prepare for anything these quality's are what we seak.
We need a player who's smart, adaptable to new situations and capable of finding the optimal play.
We need a player who's good at analysing behaviour and who's good at finding townies.
This is Sandroba in a nutshell. I've seen firsthand how he think and he is one of the few people I've met I trust can identify the correct play in a new situation. In SS mafia he created and executed the plan that dismantled the mafiateam in a day. Furthermore from my experience Sandroba's greatest strength is finding townies and then scum by process of elimination.
Additionally his activity is promising and I have a pretty good insight of how he plays.
##Vote: Sandroba @risk.nukeObviously, you know sandroba a little. Could you explain me why you feel like playing the waiting game with sandro is a good idea for today ? He explicitly told us that he was going to get busy this week-end  Why couldn't you share a little more about what you think of sandroba so far while we're waiting ? Of course, I would also greatly appreciate any input on TheChronicler ^^ Because I want to hear what he have to say before I decide if I want to lynch him or not. Right now I don't feel sandroba is demonstrating qualitys I would expect from a town sandroba. This might be because he is genuinely busy or just bloody arrogant or scum. Either was right now I want to hear from him, there is time. Chronicler I didn't like his initial plan in the terms of that I didn't agree with it. On the other hand "IF" he is town I don't feel the plan was beneficial for the mafiateam either so from that perspective I can see what he was going for. A lot of people make up their own plans because they like the sense of leadership. I don't think his candidacy plan is alignment revealing. I especially liked this post (clicky) from him, even more so in hindsight of syllos sucess. I am slightly leaning town on him. @risk.nukeThat's analysis after the fact. At this time, there was no reliable way for us to know if syllo was town or not. Speaking for myself, I've been deciding this after a careful analysis of his posts and I've decided that I should take the risk of voting him. I'm talking about a risk here because he didn't want to reveal his party beforehand, which is something I liked. And that's something TheChronicler shouldn't have liked, given his campaign platform. TheChronicler looked very afraid to vote a scum as a party leader and his plan was all about getting "information". Hence, his vote on syllo doesn't make any sense from a town TheChronicler perspective. In fact, the whole story of a town TheChronicler which wanted to be elected on a bad idea doesn't make sense. Hence, scum. Further thoughts ? By the way, your vote on sandroba is useless... We may not know for sure syllos alignment but as long as occams razor says syllo is town then that speaks in chronicles favor. If my vote on sandroba is useless, is that why you're so attracted to it? Birds of a feather flock. TC voted for Syllo when Syllo was building momentum and everybody else was losing it. You are a good player. You KNOW there would be scum on a wagon like that. Why is TC's complete throwaway reason a town tell? There's some other incongruencies: Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 20:43 risk.nuke wrote:On November 24 2012 14:18 kitaman27 wrote:There are a couple people whose filters I've looked through that I believe warrent mention. The first would be nuke. On November 21 2012 18:34 risk.nuke wrote:
Hi, I'd proposed myself to lead the party since I feel I possess the essential quality's we'd want for a mission leader. But I feel I'm late to sign myself up and as it stands there already is already a candidate I want to support. As it stands right now I want Sandroba for our first party leader.
No disrespect to marv who's one of the best scumhunters I know on these forums but a scumhunter isn't what we need today.
I'm not sure how missions are going to work but to prepare for anything these quality's are what we seak.
We need a player who's smart, adaptable to new situations and capable of finding the optimal play.
We need a player who's good at analysing behaviour and who's good at finding townies.
This is Sandroba in a nutshell. I've seen firsthand how he think and he is one of the few people I've met I trust can identify the correct play in a new situation. In SS mafia he created and executed the plan that dismantled the mafiateam in a day. Furthermore from my experience Sandroba's greatest strength is finding townies and then scum by process of elimination.
Additionally his activity is promising and I have a pretty good insight of how he plays.
##Vote: Sandroba The thing that bothers me the most about this post is how much resolve nuke has that sandroba is the right man for the job. He doesn't question whether or not sandroba is actually town, which is the first thing I'd be looking for. "Furthermore from my experience Sandroba's greatest strength is finding townies and then scum by process of elimination." This quote is what I found the most off. When I think of sandroba, I think of a good late game scumhunter. What makes him think that sandroba is a great town hunter, compared to anyone else? It's as if he is coming up with a reason that is perfect for the job to justify his vote. On November 21 2012 23:27 risk.nuke wrote:
No I read your arguments, but they sounded inadequate and non thought through. What really rubbed me the wrong way was your disregard for individual alignment amongst your list. Right now I feel you didn't care, you just wanted an elite team to go under the pretext that they would be best equipped. You purposefully ignored or didn't consider the risks of a team like that and I really don't like that. At a later point, nuke attacks arco for his team selection based on experience instead of alignment. This appears to be exactly what he had based his own leader selection upon. Throughout nuke's filter, he is asking tons of questions, but not providing any opinions of his own. This is something I find myself doing quite often as scum. Towards the end of the day, after sandroba goes afk, he switches his support to goodkarma. Rather than convincing others that this is the best route, he is more concerned with his own personal selection. He lists two people as town reads, but provides no real reasoning and shows little effort to attempt to get them added to the party. Today he has voted sandroba on the basis of inactivity. He has not contributed much on day two and hasn't provided any alternate scum reads. He is also not very aggressive, which is something I'm used to seeing when he is town. I have one other person I'd like to bring up, but it will probably have to wait until morning. I'll choose my prefered lynch candidate after that. Scummy post from a scummy player. <snip> Pretty much the first mention of Kitaman in the game. While I don't think Kita's case was particularly strong and risk is justified in ridiculing it, I am surprised about him asserting that Kita is "scummy". This feels a lot like an OMGUS to just discredit the case off the bat. A case being wrong/bad doesn't make the poster scummy, it makes him wrong/bad. We never actually get to know why Kita was "scummy". What had Kita done at the time? In fact, for someone claiming a scum read on Kita, there is remarkably little interaction between the two. There is no explanation of the read, no attempt to learn more about Kita, nothing. Risk, why did you think Kita was scum? Do you still think so? Why? Further questions: Why did you want to be party leader on D3? I understand the "party was bad" reasoning, but regardless of alignment, you have enough brains to know you had 0 town cred and would never ever get elected in a million years. The decision to try to run just seems really really strange. I can think of a "desperate scum" motivation though. And given that scum was in a pretty bad shape after D1 and D2, desperation is a decent guess of the scum state of mind at that point. Your reason for not wanting to take Dieno along sounds incredibly forced. You honestly expect us to believe you thought that Dieno's HP would play a bigger role than the fact that he is about as close to confirmed town as we can get without flips? I know you have already been asked this by someone (Djodref I believe), but your answers were thoroughly unsatisfactory. Try again.
I will compile this post in bite-size gulps for you:
1. Why did you have a town read on GK and Djodref during d1?
2. Please explain how the post you linked from TC gave you a town read on him?
3. Are you maintaining that Kita posting a trolly campaign made him scum in your mind?
4. Why did you want to be party leader D3? Why did you think this would be constructive?
However, this was rather a long time ago. Since then I have gotten more suspicious. Firstly, when I claim 3P he starts really wanting to lynch me, up to the point of misrepresenting my words just to make me look scummy:
What I said:+ Show Spoiler [backup votes] +On November 30 2012 02:15 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2012 02:02 GreYMisT wrote:On November 30 2012 02:00 Promethelax wrote:On November 30 2012 01:58 GreYMisT wrote:
It was brought to my attention that once again I am forgetful
Today You also have the pleasure of voting for tomorrows party leader. There will be a special event tomorrow with 2 stages of in thread voting, thus the party leader and his party must be selected today! this is the voting we're already doing. Right? Mementoss mentioned about 2 pages back. I am just clarifying further.
You are voting for both a lynch as well as a party leader for tomorrow's event. What happens if the elected party leader is killed before the event?Seems to me we probably need a backup. I suggest Keirathi as first choice (with preferred group the D1 party) and Clarity as second. Best to even include a 3rd (Syllo or Oats?) just to ensure Toad's single vote does not cause havoc. Also, I won't be switching to GK until I've read his filter (or probably after); I have started a couple of times, but it is long and makes heavy use of run-on sentences like this one, which means that it is really not easy to read. In any case, I think I prefer a risk.nuke lynch. He is being extremely uncooperative. Combine that with something that sounds like a bogus roleclaim and a really dodgy policy for his masonQT selection. A tent with a crystal ball makes me think of the prophet. Not sure he has a tent, but he is a fortune teller.
Paraphrased in the context of D5: I want risk.nuke as a backup lynch in case there is some system that makes Toad unlynchable.
What risk claims I said:
On November 30 2012 02:18 risk.nuke wrote:
Acro wants to kill me over confirmed scum. I see, you claimed to be pro-town third party right?
What happened: risk dropped out of the thread and I had said what I had to say. I had no intention of lynching him over Toad and he was not being considered for a party in cycle 6.
What risk claims happened:
On November 30 2012 20:59 risk.nuke wrote:
Very interesting that Prom and Acro attacked me hard when syllogism led them to believe he thought I was scum and dropped it like a stone when he stated he was merely suspicious of me.
This can obviously be explained as paranoid townie behaviour who is heavily OMGUSing. However, paranoid OMGUSing is generally considered a scumtell.
Note the complete lack of scumhunting. He doesn't even bother to call me (or Promethelax) scum. He just throws the suspicion out there in the hope that it sticks.
The meta-read. Cycle 1: risk is active and I saw very little suspicious in his behaviour. Cycle 2 his reasoning for voting Sandro is rather strange, he gets called out for it and it still sounds strange. However, I don't consider this indicative of alignment, because it is not really indicative of bussing either.
Cycle 3 risk's activity drops off. Possible explanation: Sandro dead, Toad caught, VE and SnB inactive. If there are 5 scum and risk is the 5th, I can totally get into the mindset of him feeling defeated and no longer interested in the game. In fact, the "feeling defeated and no longer interested in the game" was why his activity dropped off as an SK in Acme mafia.
Now on to his other games. Here is bureaucracy, when called out why he was doing jack shit that game:
On July 20 2012 02:37 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 01:37 Blazinghand wrote:I don't like risk.nuke. I think part of it is his disgusting reaver portrait, but check it out: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=76576His initial comments actually aren't that bad, viewed on their own-- he doesn't like chaos or chezinu, he calls out the bad day 1 reads thing, and he argues about about RL. But how much as he really added since that initial outburst of early game chatter? Well, He drops a vote on Kurumi with some minimal discussion, since Kurumi is basically scum D1. He explains his vote. And then... nothing. He drops a vote on austinmcc later as we get closer to the lynch deadline. That's everything Risk.Nuke has done.
Now, I could imagine having a relatively quiet first half of D1, or maybe entire D1. But we're in D2 now, and after a whole night and nearly a third of D2, RN is unbelievably quiet. Why is that? It's not because he thinks there's nothing to talk about, I can assure you that-- he made a pretty long response to one of the opening posts when there was less activity: (link)Risk.Nuke is alarmingly inactive-- he's posted no analysis, no reads, nothing. Since the end of D1 he's made two posts: On July 19 2012 01:36 risk.nuke wrote:On July 19 2012 01:19 syllogism wrote:
I can't believe this game uses extended majority lynch. How was that a good idea Don't blame the system when the fault lies in a dumb unorganized town. On July 19 2012 21:38 risk.nuke wrote:
We need to kill kurumi. For tomorrow I feel katina will bleed red. Will elaborate when I feel like it. The first one is worthless, and the second one is (in the first half) self evident and (in the second half) completely left hanging. What are you doing, risk.nuke? why so unhelpful? Why so lurk? why so scum? lol, I can't believe you believe in your post. But back to that in a second. Well, why I'm doing jack shit right now. I know kurumi is scum and thanks to RoL beeing dumb he's still alive. And that is like having a pointy rock in my shoe. It's hard to motivate myself to focus on anyone else before it's gone.
And it may be day 2 but we haven't had a lynch yet. So it's only day 2 by name. We do not have a lynch to look at for information.<snip>
The next few days he does nothing, with this justification:
On July 25 2012 07:19 risk.nuke wrote:
What do you mean I've just been floating under the radar.
I've not been playing irc mafia and got 20+page filter.
I'm also am aware that I haven't really made cases but not because of lack of wanting to. I just haven't been able to motivate myself into doing it when people are already voicing their suspicion against my targets. If I don't need to convince them i don't need to make a case. And not making cases is not the same as not having reads.
And he finally gets lynched. In the meantime he did NO scumhunting of his own and simply followed the flock of townies like a good little sheep.
Now on to Liquid City:
We get a similar justification for his lurk
On October 08 2012 09:06 risk.nuke wrote:
You say lurking but I atleast am more simmilar to afk. I'm on a break because nothing is happening in this game, the last 40 pages are useless and might well not have existed because too many are just waiting for it to come to an end. we have our lynch and there isn't anything else to it. Too me personally I can't be bothered to make a case for the lynch 3 days from now, I can't motivate myself for that. Not to mention that after the nightflips you will have better information hence making time spent scumhunting post nightflips more effective then before the flip.
This is how I feel and that is all to it. And you might have been forced to be away and unable to scumhunt but you're here now and I'm telling you your case does not impress me the slightest. If this is the best you'll give us I'll lynch you because I know you can do alot better then those sorry lines for scumhunting.
However, he comes back immediately with some scumhunting of his own and has OPINIONS about people. After excusing himself for lurking, he posts 4 pages of filter with actual content. He pushes people. He may have been wrong about Mattchew, but he was hard on his case for a little while. It was clear whom risk thought was scum. He also made his opinion of people killing the cop at what was apparently mylo (?) abundantly clear.
This game: does anybody even know who risk.nuke has a scumread on? Anybody? Someone risk called scum in the last 5 days or so? I sure as hell couldn't find it in his filter. He dropped into the thread to vote for SnB and then buggered off again. How is this in any way similar to his town meta, where, even if he is not very active, he pushes his reads?
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I assume we have to Epoch to a different time period each cycle, correct?
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On December 06 2012 04:27 Keirathi wrote:
I assume we have to Epoch to a different time period each cycle, correct?
You are so right
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On December 06 2012 03:50 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2012 03:23 Acrofales wrote:
The point of my claim was so you guys could use the claimed abilities when trying to solve the game, not so you can indulge in pointless speculating about my name, which will get you nowhere as I won't confirm or deny anything. So the point was that you, who are almost certainly lying about AT LEAST one aspect of your role, could claim what you did, some/most of which you'd already claimed in thread.
What is it you're trying to say? I have a hard time figuring out what you're accusing me of here.
PS. I am not lying.
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Acrofales is literally the towniest person in the game based on content and he isn't even town. I'm amazed that he still has it in him to make content based cases, I gave up on that after day 2.
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Clearly you gave up on attempting to read my filter after Day 2. That explains a lot.
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On December 06 2012 04:31 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2012 03:50 austinmcc wrote:On December 06 2012 03:23 Acrofales wrote:
The point of my claim was so you guys could use the claimed abilities when trying to solve the game, not so you can indulge in pointless speculating about my name, which will get you nowhere as I won't confirm or deny anything. So the point was that you, who are almost certainly lying about AT LEAST one aspect of your role, could claim what you did, some/most of which you'd already claimed in thread. What is it you're trying to say? I have a hard time figuring out what you're accusing me of here. PS. I am not lying.
I'm trying to figure out what part of your stuff this game I don't believe. I know some of it is likely true, other bits false. Haven't checked Drazerk and Kita's full filters yet after looking through yours, but will work on that this evening.
Yeah, I'm not accusing you of anything specific there, because...I don't know what to accuse you of yet. But you make it out like you did town this big favor by claiming where you'd used your actions so "you guys" can "solve the game." When in all likelihood, that's crap. A lot/all(?) your actions were in thread already, so you weren't handing down divine information that nobody knew. And you refuse to answer questions that town wants answered.
I don't think anyone is buying what you're selling, but I don't like that you're trying to sell it anyway.
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On December 06 2012 04:33 syllogism wrote:
Acrofales is literally the towniest person in the game based on content and he isn't even town. I'm amazed that he still has it in him to make content based cases, I gave up on that after day 2.
Its also a good case without the meta in it. Not having to hunt scum because of obvious targets I could understand, but those questions Acro listed have come up enough times that risk should have answered them by now.
##Lynch: risk.nuke
##Travel to: Middle Ages
We'll see if he can come up with a satisfactory response or if he goes the way of the rest of the scum, trolling and screaming.
Middle Ages because I'm still VT and hoping I can regain my abilities.
Out of curiosity,
On December 06 2012 04:29 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2012 04:27 Keirathi wrote:
I assume we have to Epoch to a different time period each cycle, correct? You are so right
Are we allowed to know what happens if we all vote for the Present again?
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