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Promethelax
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syllogism
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Promethelax
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On December 06 2012 06:19 syllogism wrote: Healing you isn't a good idea because S&B's ability presumably lowered your max hp by 250 and you only took 210 damage due to damage sharing. I presume that you and I both had our max lowered by 125. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
The heal I can do. Can heal a specific target, but I'd prefer to heal someone who has taken damage and is confirmed or as-near-as-can-be-confirmed town, without giving out the name. Given that we don't know the entirety of what's out there, and seeing as it looks like I'm a nice, juicy, mislynch candidate, I don't exactly want to say "I'm healing x" and open up the possibility of someone having the ability to mess with my target. As long as nobody is healing the target, they've taken damage, and they confirm the heal, it's the same effect but with less chance of being interefered with. | ||
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Promethelax
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On December 06 2012 06:24 Promethelax wrote: At least one person in this game keeps hinting that he doesn't think I actually can do what I've claimed:yeah, SnB's 250 damage was pretty confirmable too... On December 06 2012 02:30 Acrofales wrote: Wait. Your counterattack also sounds insane. Adam claimed he damaged you in N5. You are claiming you could counterattack him in N7. Please explain this ability a LOT better. 300 damage is also far more than anybody except Drazerk has claimed he can do (oh, and H1, but he has to hit himself before he can shoot). On December 06 2012 05:33 Acrofales wrote: And yes, I know that it cannot be a scum ability. I am just wondering whether it can be an ability at all. I don't need to prove it to acro, but if other people have doubts and I need to resolve them, I can. Would prefer to sit on it though and only use if I take damage and no town source claims it. It's also one reason I'll claim my abilities and role, but not my current HP, so that scum can't know whether I can be taken out within a single cycle. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On December 06 2012 04:50 Promethelax wrote: wait, hope, why do the middle ages give you more abilities? They don't as far as my role pm, but I'm currently VT and my flavor says my keg is empty. Being from the middle ages, I figure its the best place to get a refill. Alternatively my HP is too low. By my count I still have a fully charges shot left (and 1 HP remaining) but I'm not allowed to hit myself to unlock it and I don't know why. | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
As for risk, I really don't get why so many of you are convinced he's scum. It doesn't make sense from a scum perspective to waste so much time inviting townies when he could be hammering them. As scum, I would totally just invite one or maybe 2 townies, tell them I couldn't invite anymore, and beat them dead. The fact that he thought so heavily of his abilities in a town circle-type capacity is definitely not a scum line of thinking. It was suboptimal as town to be sure, but I can't think of any scum motivation for it... And that leaves CaveJohnson... Am I the only one seriously considering lynching him? I know it's not the most exciting thing to be lynching a lying troll, but everyone else at this point is accounted for... My 2cents, for what it's worth. Lynching risk is a mistake. Might as well tell you here so if you follow through on it I can say I told you so later... | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18156 Posts
There are some posts that just don't sit right with me, but it could be the problem of English as a second language. His vote for Sandro D1 is not really indicative of alignment. His reasoning for the vote might be, but depends on meta. He never hopped off, but scum could easily have hopped off: Sandro wasn't getting elected. His vote for Toad on D2 is also not indicative of alignment. He spends most of the day tunneling TC and never leaves off his scum read, however it was clear that TC was not going to be lynched. Choices were basically Sandro and Toad and a non-Sandro vote is consistent with his D1 behaviour. After the lynch he makes a couple of posts accusing various people of being scum, but his activity drops off and he never follows up with actions. I will have to look at VE and SnB's filters to see if there's any associative tells, but Zbo's filter doesn't give me much to work with. At the moment I am liking the test. Austin healing H1 seems like a pretty good idea. H1 is an unlikely target for other protection and I think he's probably town. Lets see if he can get that heal. Back to deciding between CJ and risk which one is worse. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18156 Posts
On December 06 2012 06:35 Hopeless1der wrote: They don't as far as my role pm, but I'm currently VT and my flavor says my keg is empty. Being from the middle ages, I figure its the best place to get a refill. Alternatively my HP is too low. By my count I still have a fully charges shot left (and 1 HP remaining) but I'm not allowed to hit myself to unlock it and I don't know why. Lol. I guess saving H1 might not be a good idea. Case 1: austin is town. He heals H1. Scum nails H1 with 151+ damage. H1 dies and we know nothing. Case 2: austin is scum. He nails H1 with any damage at all. H1 dies and we know nothing. Test result: inconclusive. Only advantage is keeping scum KP off people like Syllo. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On December 06 2012 06:37 Acrofales wrote: I just read Zbo's filter and it is completely inconclusive. He has accused pretty much everybody of being scum for rather terrible reasons. Now he may really be trying to figure people out, pressuring them with long cases and reacting to their response, or he could be scum making bad cases on people in order to look townie. There are some posts that just don't sit right with me, but it could be the problem of English as a second language. His vote for Sandro D1 is not really indicative of alignment. His reasoning for the vote might be, but depends on meta. He never hopped off, but scum could easily have hopped off: Sandro wasn't getting elected. His vote for Toad on D2 is also not indicative of alignment. He spends most of the day tunneling TC and never leaves off his scum read, however it was clear that TC was not going to be lynched. Choices were basically Sandro and Toad and a non-Sandro vote is consistent with his D1 behaviour. After the lynch he makes a couple of posts accusing various people of being scum, but his activity drops off and he never follows up with actions. I will have to look at VE and SnB's filters to see if there's any associative tells, but Zbo's filter doesn't give me much to work with. At the moment I am liking the test. Austin healing H1 seems like a pretty good idea. H1 is an unlikely target for other protection and I think he's probably town. Lets see if he can get that heal. Back to deciding between CJ and risk which one is worse. CJ will always be bad. Risk could be useful, he just isn't right now. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On December 06 2012 06:41 Acrofales wrote: Lol. I guess saving H1 might not be a good idea. Case 1: austin is town. He heals H1. Scum nails H1 with 151+ damage. H1 dies and we know nothing. Case 2: austin is scum. He nails H1 with any damage at all. H1 dies and we know nothing. Test result: inconclusive. Only advantage is keeping scum KP off people like Syllo. I need to hit myself THEN unlock the vig shot, so I have much more than 1 HP. Scum could probably back calculate what that value is based on how much I hit Toad for. I'm willing to claim my HP remaining at deadline if that helps. | ||
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Acrofales
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risk.nuke
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risk.nuke
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CaveJohnson
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On December 06 2012 06:42 Hopeless1der wrote: CJ will always be bad. Risk could be useful, he just isn't right now. I find that rather offensive considering I'm one of the only reasons why we even got a lynch this cycle. | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
On December 06 2012 06:48 CaveJohnson wrote: I find that rather offensive considering I'm one of the only reasons why we even got a lynch this cycle. Pure speculation... Do you even have scum suspects. Or are you too busy being a useless troll? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18156 Posts
On November 22 2012 07:54 strongandbig wrote: fuck i was really happy that i was gonna get to play a themed game without drazerk in it but no I knew there was something bothering me about scum SnB+Drazerk. Why would SnB blow his scumbuddy's cover? I guess it's possible Drazerk was already planning on claiming and said so in the QT, so SnB just got in on the action. But it doesn't feel like that. It feels like this: On November 22 2012 08:09 strongandbig wrote: yeah I got to your post a couple minutes after I posted that is genuine. | ||
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CaveJohnson
278 Posts
On December 06 2012 06:54 goodkarma wrote: Pure speculation... Do you even have scum suspects. Or are you too busy being a useless troll? I have scum suspects but we saw what happened when I tried to do anything this game. | ||
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