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Promethelax
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Acrofales
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On December 06 2012 04:35 austinmcc wrote: I'm trying to figure out what part of your stuff this game I don't believe. I know some of it is likely true, other bits false. Haven't checked Drazerk and Kita's full filters yet after looking through yours, but will work on that this evening. Yeah, I'm not accusing you of anything specific there, because...I don't know what to accuse you of yet. But you make it out like you did town this big favor by claiming where you'd used your actions so "you guys" can "solve the game." When in all likelihood, that's crap. A lot/all(?) your actions were in thread already, so you weren't handing down divine information that nobody knew. And you refuse to answer questions that town wants answered. I don't think anyone is buying what you're selling, but I don't like that you're trying to sell it anyway. 3 of the 7 actions I performed were in the thread. I admit that 3 of my other actions had no impact on the game, but the damage + jail on Toad needed claiming if there is any hope of scumhunting by finding incongruous actions. I fail to see why claiming my rolename and secondary wincon help town at all. You suspect me of lying anyway. Why will claiming magically confirm me as town-friendly? I have said I am town-friendly. I have acted town-friendly. Me talking about me helps absolutely nobody catch scummers. So read my filter by all means, conclude that me being on a scumteam with Toad and SnB would be mindbogglingly stupid. Conclude that me claiming to not want to be on a party as scum would be mindbogglingly stupid. Keep your suspicions about my ulterior motives (I don't see how my claiming would help you with those anyway), but get to scumhunting. | ||
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CaveJohnson
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Acrofales
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On December 06 2012 03:46 austinmcc wrote: I call it counterattack because that's basically what it does, but it doesn't require the same cycle, and it's not actually "Counterattack". If I use that ability, it just looks at the last point at which I was dealt damage, and then splits my damage between all players who dealt me damage at that point. Until I'm damaged otherwise, you'd be eating the full 300 if you're being truthful about being the sole source of damage on me that night, as I haven't been hit since then. So.. austin has a shitload of KP with pretty much no condition except era? How does this match up with other town claimed abilities: 1. H1 can do less damage per shot and only if he hits himself first. 2. GK can do half the damage per shot and it takes 3 days to charge. 3. Hapa can do lots of damage (more than Austin), but is more likely to hit townies with most of it, even if his initial shot hits scum. 4. Adam has to play NK roulette in order to get a shot which does LESS damage. Or even scum claimed abilities: 1. Sandro can do 200 damage, spread out over 4 days. 2. SnB can hit for 250 damage, once per player per game and only if they are dumb enough to roleclaim. 3. Toad can do 100 damage per night (probably most similar in total amount of damage) There are only two abilities that can even approach that amount of damage: Drazerk's claimed EMP, which is almost certainly a lie and definitely a lie in how much damage it does. Kush's 1-shot dayvig. However, this is balanced by being 1-shot and having a risk of suiciding (although only if you use it as a complete derp like he did). I am having a hard time wrapping my head around giving town this amount of KP, which seems to top what scum can do. | ||
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Acrofales
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syllogism
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CaveJohnson
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syllogism
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syllogism
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syllogism
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Acrofales
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On November 21 2012 14:10 Z-BosoN wrote: @Djodref I've never played with sandroba nor am I familiar with his meta. There are a lot of people here that are though (lots of vets), so I'm taking an overall town perspective. This is an assumption of course, but I think it's a fair one. Is this inline with Zbo's reasoning as town? He is willing to vote Sandro blindly on the assertion that "there are people who can figure Sandro out". Anybody familiar enough with Zbo's meta to tell me whether this is normal? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18372 Posts
On December 06 2012 05:50 syllogism wrote: I mean he claims using shield n2 on keirathi even though Dienosore took 445 damage n1 Also, Keirathi took 75 damage in cycle 4, same as GK and I, which I assume is linked to being in a failed party. Of course, this evidence is inconclusive, because we don't know whether he took damage cycle 2 or 3 that was blocked by the shield. However, it'd have to be exactly 75 damage to show up as it did. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
It's a cry for help, maybe we should lynch him today. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On December 06 2012 06:02 syllogism wrote: I've to say it's a really stupid claim to make if he is mafia (don't blame him though, I would want this to end by this point as well), but still as a town aligned player you would absolutely love to "confirm" your actions by healing players instead of using a shield. None of his actions so far are actually confirmable and healing is strictly better than shielding. It's a cry for help, maybe we should lynch him today. I shall sheep unto this and that'll be that. This game has been really interesting and fun, but 4 scum are dead and the game feels like it's dragging on right now. Anyone have a timetravel preference? | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 06 2012 06:02 syllogism wrote: I've to say it's a really stupid claim to make if he is mafia (don't blame him though, I would want this to end by this point as well), but still as a town aligned player you would absolutely love to "confirm" your actions by healing players instead of using a shield. None of his actions so far are actually confirmable and healing is strictly better than shielding. It's a cry for help, maybe we should lynch him today. Idunno. I'm pretty convinced that risk is scum, but if there's a second one lurking about, it's probably austin/Z-Bo. Austin going off on Acro is completely nonsensical at this point. | ||
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Clarity_nl
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Promethelax
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syllogism
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
As to Z-Boson's actions, I can't give you anything there. Can't tell you why he targeted who he targeted when, but I'm assuming the later cycles he just wasn't around. | ||
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