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Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
December 05 2012 17:22 GMT
#6461
EBWOP:

probably not directed from a specific party member
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
December 05 2012 17:24 GMT
#6462
On December 06 2012 02:10 austinmcc wrote:
I can't account for the roleblocks or any missing actions. My role is different depending on the time period, but none of them match up.
  • While in 2300 AD or 12,000 BC I can counterattack anyone who dealt damage to me.
300 damage to the last person that dealt damage to me.
If multiple people hit me in the same cycle, it's split amongst them.
  • While in 600 AD or 1000 AD I can heal/shield
150 HP heal or 75 HP shield.
  • While in 65,000,000 BC or End of Time, I can find out a target's current hp



Cycle 6 I shielded Syllo. Didn't know everyone's health values, dienosaur was dead before the end of cycle, and out of the people that were being treated as confirmed town, syllo seemed the strongest player to me.
<snip>

Why shield rather than heal? This sounds very strange. Given that shields don't give a notification I am not sure I trust you on this. If I had a choice between a 150 heal and a 75 shield, I would definitely heal.

Other healers: do you feel the amount he can heal for is inline with what you can do?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 05 2012 17:25 GMT
#6463
On December 06 2012 02:06 Promethelax wrote:
I believe it is time for a mass claim.


I don't see the reason to name claim. As for abilities I could, but I really see no reason to.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 05 2012 17:26 GMT
#6464
How long does this 75 HP shield last? Forever?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18473 Posts
December 05 2012 17:30 GMT
#6465
Wait. Your counterattack also sounds insane.

Adam claimed he damaged you in N5. You are claiming you could counterattack him in N7. Please explain this ability a LOT better. 300 damage is also far more than anybody except Drazerk has claimed he can do (oh, and H1, but he has to hit himself before he can shoot).
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 05 2012 17:31 GMT
#6466
I don't think it's that insane since he doesn't know who attacked him and there is a lot of random damage flying around, especially if someone is using flamethrower. It would be ridiculous as a mafia ability though.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 05 2012 17:32 GMT
#6467
On December 06 2012 02:18 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 02:06 Promethelax wrote:
I believe it is time for a mass claim.

Hapa's ability is theoretically pro town if he uses his flame retardent ability on those he thinks his flamethrower target will target. I wouldn't put it past GreY to have included that.

Risk is well known for doing the counter intuitive thing with his ability or position (see pyp:r where, after the order had been chosen he ignored the plan totally and threw the game into chaos) and his use of his ability does mesh with that.

I'm very wary of Syllo still being alive. Only way I can really see that is if all these low kp night have actually been afk scum. Which, in my mind, points towards a Risk/VE/SnB three man team after we killed Toad/Sand.

Mass claim. Names and abilities. gogogo.

Your mass claims are invariably bad. This one is no exception.


I disagree. We have too many things claimed already, hiding a few does not benefit us. A full role claim now makes mafia out either their real role or their fake claim. In heavily themed games this can make a huge difference. (See: Aperture 2)
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 05 2012 17:34 GMT
#6468
Syllo how do you feel about a mass claim?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 05 2012 17:36 GMT
#6469
Z-Boson

Cycle 1 - shield Hapa
Cycle 2 - shield Keirathi
Cycle 3 - did nothing
Cycle 4 - hp check on Dienosaur, 1 hp

Cycle 5 - nothing

Shields are persistant.
Fe fi fo fum.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 05 2012 17:38 GMT
#6470
Anyone who isn't obviously town should claim everything, in my opinion
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 05 2012 17:39 GMT
#6471
@ Syllo

On December 06 2012 01:47 Hapahauli wrote:
Syllo, can we take care of this "you being suspicious of me" thing right now? Because we have a situation where the last two flipped scum (SnB + VE) have both attempted to put heavy suspicion on me in their filters. Combined with the points I've made earlier (my actions regarding Toad in particular), how on earth do you not see that I'm town at this point?

None of the flipped scum have attempted to put significant suspicion on each other in the thread (save clear bussing attempts), and for some reason you think that this pattern was completely defied in my case.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 05 2012 17:40 GMT
#6472
How did hapa take 100 damage on n2 then? I guess it's possible he took 175, but how
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 05 2012 17:40 GMT
#6473
On December 06 2012 02:38 syllogism wrote:
Anyone who isn't obviously town should claim everything, in my opinion


who, in your opinion, would those people be?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 05 2012 17:41 GMT
#6474
On December 06 2012 02:40 syllogism wrote:
How did hapa take 100 damage on n2 then? I guess it's possible he took 175, but how


toad + flame thrower.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
December 05 2012 17:41 GMT
#6475
On December 06 2012 02:41 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2012 02:40 syllogism wrote:
How did hapa take 100 damage on n2 then? I guess it's possible he took 175, but how


toad + flame thrower.


Didnt get used until N3. Not that.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
December 05 2012 17:41 GMT
#6476
Grabbing lunch, the two people who are particularly curious about the counterattack ability interest me.

I specifically did NOT counterattack adam even though I could have, and he's worried about how it interacts with scum KP.

Acro I just don't trust, but that's the ability. 300/x damage, where x is the number of players who most recently damaged me. I can't aim it, only know where it's headed if all the damage on me is claimed.
Fe fi fo fum.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 05 2012 17:41 GMT
#6477
He didn't flamethrower toad on n2
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 05 2012 17:42 GMT
#6478
I can account for the missing roleblocks.

I didn't claim it earlier because I felt there was little reason to at the time with the lynches already decided.

I couldn't rb night one, night two I was on nuke, three and four I was on toad, five and seven on cave, and six on VE.

Just because the roleblock on risk is accounted for, doesn't mean that he is clear. I've already brought up the over enthusiastic town read on sandroba day one and how he shows a contradiction in logic when defending GK for shooting Cave, yet providing a scum read on myself who also shot cave. The use of his role is silly from a town perspective and he provides very few opinions.

That being said...town having 3 roleblockers, compared to the single roleblocker flip from the scum team is quite strange...especially considering sandroba couldn't roleblock every cycle and there are so many blues the mafia has to deal with. We know Cave has a roleblocking ability that he claims is a jail. I have a town read on syllo and a slightly weaker town read on prom (mainly due to the strength of his role).

Cave, I'm quite disappointed that you decided to pass on the opportunity to provide us with 16 fake claims in the same post. You have a reputation to uphold!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 05 2012 17:43 GMT
#6479
On December 06 2012 02:40 syllogism wrote:
How did hapa take 100 damage on n2 then? I guess it's possible he took 175, but how


Unflipped scum? Possible town shot as well, but no one claimed it yet.

But I'll keep spamming this until you answer it:
On December 06 2012 01:47 Hapahauli wrote:
Syllo, can we take care of this "you being suspicious of me" thing right now? Because we have a situation where the last two flipped scum (SnB + VE) have both attempted to put heavy suspicion on me in their filters. Combined with the points I've made earlier (my actions regarding Toad in particular), how on earth do you not see that I'm town at this point?

None of the flipped scum have attempted to put significant suspicion on each other in the thread (save clear bussing attempts), and for some reason you think that this pattern was completely defied in my case.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
December 05 2012 17:43 GMT
#6480
On December 06 2012 02:41 austinmcc wrote:
Grabbing lunch, the two people who are particularly curious about the counterattack ability interest me.

I specifically did NOT counterattack adam even though I could have, and he's worried about how it interacts with scum KP.

Acro I just don't trust, but that's the ability. 300/x damage, where x is the number of players who most recently damaged me. I can't aim it, only know where it's headed if all the damage on me is claimed.


Your damn right I want to know how it interacts with scum KP.

Because if it doesn't interact with scum KP, its nigh on useless to a town player, but really handy for a scum player.

How could you counterattack me in cycle 7 when I shot you after toads lynch in cycle 5?
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